Having a brain fart here...

If a ship has bee fenn raud...can it spend it' target lock?

A target lock is a token, and the standard reason to spend a target lock is to reroll attack dice, which is a dice modification. Thus if a ship is the target of Fenn Rau's (Rebel) pilot ability, it cannot spend its target lock to reroll dice.

A ship targeted by Fenn Rau can't spend a Target Lock to modify it's dice (normal rerolls, Norra Wexley adding a Focus result). However, it could spend a TL to do something like fire a Concussion Missile, since that isn't spending a token to modify dice.

It is not modifying a dice that counts, it s spending a token.

According to the usage you are prevented of spending tokens for modifying dice.

All tokens are out of use.

Fen just wants a fair fist fight

2 hours ago, D34d guru said:

It is not modifying a dice that counts, it s spending a token.

According to the usage you are prevented of spending tokens for modifying dice.

All tokens are out of use.

Fen just wants a fair fist fight

It's both. Spending tokens is fine if it's not to mod dice (e.g. Kanan pilot) and modding dice is fine as long as tokens aren't spent to do it (list as long as your arm but e.g. Poe ATC expertise).

The specific act of spending a targetlock is not modifying dice. However i cant think of any effects that occur when Fenn is doing his thing that both spend a TL and doesnt mod a die in some fashion (Norra is the closest, but adding a result is modding)

Thanks fellas.

5 hours ago, Vineheart01 said:

The specific act of spending a targetlock is not modifying dice. However i cant think of any effects that occur when Fenn is doing his thing that both spend a TL and doesnt mod a die in some fashion ( Norra is the closest, but adding a result is modding)

Spending a target lock for fire a missile or torpedo is quite legit after Fenn has done his thing. Fenn would still block Norra's ability, target locks used to modify, and focus tokens used to modify. Possibly not Keyan Farlander, though, because he removes a stress token, instead of spending it.

17 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

It's both. Spending tokens is fine if it's not to mod dice (e.g. Kanan pilot) and modding dice is fine as long as tokens aren't spent to do it (list as long as your arm but e.g. Poe ATC expertise).

Exactly as i said then.

3 minutes ago, D34d guru said:

Exactly as i said then.

No.

You said 'It is not modifying a dice that counts, it s spending a token. ' and 'all tokens are out of use' which are both incorrect.

The former, because it's the combination of both points that's important, not one or the other, and the latter because you can spend tokens for effects which do not modify dice, and you can make use of them without spending them for effects that simply require you to have them.

Your post was imprecise. I clarified it.

For the record, spending a token and spending a token to modify dice are NOT the same thing/mechanic. FFG has said you can spend a token to modify ZERO dice so if there is an ability that allows you to spend a token for an effect other than to modify dice (IE.. R2 Agromech) , Fenn's ability would not stop it.

16 hours ago, shaunmerritt said:

For the record, spending a token and spending a token to modify dice are NOT the same thing/mechanic. FFG has said you can spend a token to modify ZERO dice so if there is an ability that allows you to spend a token for an effect other than to modify dice (IE.. R2 Agromech) , Fenn's ability would not stop it.

Also for the record, R4 Agromech is not a thing you can spend a focus token on in and of itself.

It's a 'bonus' that triggers when you spend a focus token, but it doesn't allow you to spend a focus token when otherwise forbidden from doing so - most things that you can spend a focus token on whilst attacking do fall under the definition of 'modifying dice' and are blocked by Fenn Rau and Omega Leader's abilities.

'Spending a token to modify zero dice' (which is allowed if you have zero applicable dice or choose zero as 'any number') is still 'spending a token to modify dice', and prohibited.

The main thing you can spend tokens on is to pay the 'spend [token] to perform this attack' costs for concussion missiles or proton torpedoes, or latts razzi's reduce-target's-agility abilty. As @thespaceinvader notes, Kanan Jarrus' ability would also apply, if you can somehow contrive to trigger it - since it's a defensive ability and fenn's prohibition applies whilst attacking ( possibly this might apply with Chewbacca 'revenge shots' in some niche situation?)

Note that any token which is 'spent' is affected - so Inaldra (who 'spends' a shield token for rerolls) will also not be able to use her ability.

Keyan explicitly 'removes' rather than 'spending' a stress token so it doesn't affect him