New Trilogy Era

By Ragnell, in Star Wars: Legion

We know currently, Legion will focus on the GCW era of star wars for the first few expansions, but if units from the current ongoing trilogy of star wars were added to Legion, do you think the first order and resistance will be considered their own seperate factions or be expansions for the current rebel and imperial factions?

To give my opinion, I think they should be in the same faction as it will just give each faction more diverse minis and cards to work with instead of limiting the choices you have for your faction. Plus, wouldn't it be rad to have both Kylo Ren and Vader as your army commanders.

Im sure they will add them, time will tell if ffg will roll them up together

That, and TLJ clearly showed that the first order still used Imperial tech (AT-ATs, AT-STs). and obviously the Resistance still uses whatever it can get its hands on

In my opinion if they are going to add units from different eras/ trilogies to the game, it should be done as a new faction, not just "add on units" to the Rebellion and Empire. With X-wing, it is easy to field a whole squadron of just Resistance or First Order fighters, as the points value is much less, whereas I don't think there are enough potential units to field decent forces of just Resistance forces. The new movies by definition do not the same wealth of material beyond the movies to draw from for ground forces. Infantry miniature games traditionally have multiple army options, and I don't think Legion should be any different.

We have not seen enough from the Resistance in the existing movies/media for them to have a sufficient variation of units, literally just basic troopers, the salt speeders (which were used out of desperation and literally falling apart), and a number of heroes, most of which would be commanders. We do however see a variety of Stormtroopers from the First Order, which may have slightly different in game rules than Imperial Stormtroopers, but look very similar (the Snow variants of both are even more similar). Fielding two units that look almost exactly the same, but have different rules in the same force is a recipe for confusion, and releasing a "new" unit that is just a different model with the same rules for the same army will hurt sales MORE than a new unit with new rules.

Now if it were me, I would allow the Resistance army to be the heroes from the new trilogy, but using the same units as the Rebels, and the First Order to be its own stand alone faction (They used updated versions of the Imperial equipment, such as the AT-M6 and unnamed AT-ST, not the exact same, so different rules should in my opinion be applied).

However, I would prefer if they instead went to the Clone Wars era next for armies. The cartoon series focusing on the conflict included plenty of infantry/equipment that could be used to flesh out two factions without re-using pre-existing models, providing them with more sales.

42 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

However, I would prefer if they instead went to the Clone Wars era next for armies. The cartoon series focusing on the conflict included plenty of infantry/equipment that could be used to flesh out two factions without re-using pre-existing models, providing them with more sales.

I probably wouldn’t put any money into the new trilogy units unless we get enough of them and enough variety to field independent armies that are diverse. First order troopers in an empire or Poe in the rebellion seems odd to me. I tolerate it in xwing because it’s the ships and it’s not really time locked (or terribly thematic besides sometime in Star Wars).

Now, the Clone Wars era, I’d be all in for! There’s plenty of unique vehicles and troop types to keep that flowing into a fleshed our conflict. I think a Geonosis or Felucia board with clone troopers, tanks, battle and destroyer droids etc would be awesome. Also plenty of names characters for commanders - Captain Rex, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Cad Bane, Asajj, etc.

I still think clone wars is best suited for a 15mm game. Running whole squads of walkers, gunships and tanks would be so sweet.

The whole point of TLJ is telling Legion players they don't need AT-ATs, because they are useless (waves hand).

I would just add them to the rebels and the empire, but with added internal synergy through special rules, keywords and Command Cards. This way they would profit from being fielded together but if there is a good combination with rebel/imperial units it can be used.

Will Reys card say 'you can do whatever you want'?

20 minutes ago, VAYASAN said:

Will Reys card say 'you can do whatever you want'?

As long as they dont have Rey’s weapon as REY’S lightsaber i wont be too unhappy about it

1 hour ago, Jabby said:

As long as they dont have Rey’s weapon as REY’S lightsaber i wont be too unhappy about it

You’ll be disappointed then. Disney has made it clear it’s now her saber in other media, and they want to push her over the heroes of old.

I don’t dislike the new movies, but I do dislike the insistence to “hurry up and push all that older stuff out of the way and look at our new faces/factions/etc”. That was the message I got out of Kylo’s “let the past die” speech. For many of us, the OT/GCW will always be the favorite era and that should be ok.

ok, rants over.

1 hour ago, Jabby said:

As long as they dont have Rey’s weapon as REY’S lightsaber i wont be too unhappy about it

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"Oh, and he used it to murder 30 kids."

Also, it would be kinda immersion breaking if she came with her staff and a force upgrade. I mean, lightsaber throw, with a staff?

I think it would be totally okay when she came with her staff and the lightsaber would be an upgrade (maybe two different snapfit set of arms?). Saberthrow just asks you too throw any close combat weapon, despite the name.

@RagnellIn case you are refering to the thing BB-8 hijacks by AT-ST, it's just the good ol' AT-ST modernized. Much like the Abrahams Tank in its current configuration the AT-ST just has been kept using some refits too keep it up to date. So it's the same model the empire used, usually just called First Order AT-ST by official sources.