I'm having trouble deciding which Rey + Poe list I should fly for an upcoming regional. Any insight or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Version 1: 99pts, With a PS 10 & 10

Rey — YT-1300 45
Veteran Instincts 1
Finn 5
Kanan Jarrus 3
Countermeasures 3
Millennium Falcon (TFA)1
Ship Total: 58

Poe Dameron — T-70 X-Wing 31
Veteran Instincts 1
R2-D2 4
Advanced Optics 2
Autothrusters 2
Black One 1
Ship Total: 41

Version 2: 100pts, With a PS 9 & 11

Rey — YT-1300 45
Adaptability 0
Finn 5
Kanan Jarrus 3
Countermeasures 3
Millennium Falcon (TFA) 1
Ship Total: 57

Poe Dameron (PS9) — T-70 X-Wing 33
Veteran Instincts 1
R2-D2 4
Advanced Optics 2
Autothrusters 2
Black One 1
Ship Total: 43

I would go with PS 10 & 10 @ 99 points that gives you the chance to choose initiative.

Yeah, dual 10s. Besides the bid, has the advantage of allowing you to choose who eats ISYTDS when fighting Kylo.

The 10 & 10 is what I've been leaning towards. Just didn't know if it was worth pumping Poe to 11

I'd go with this, but blah blah blah regen blah blah...

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Rey (45)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Total: 100

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I also really like this list too

Rey — YT-1300 45
Veteran Instincts 1
Finn 5
Kanan Jarrus 3
Scavenger Crane 2
Smuggling Compartment 0
Countermeasures 3
Millennium Falcon (TFA) 1
Ship Total: 60

Lowhhrick — Auzituck Gunship 28
Wired 1
Jyn Erso 2
C-3PO 3
Experimental Interface 3
Ship Total: 37

Total: 97

Lowrick =/= Poe. Also BB8 or GTFO.

BB8 4 Lyfe!

Ok.

So I like your 10/10 but don’t like R2-D2 for many reasons.

Also I like Engine Upgrade better than CM on the Falcon. The ship is supposed to be able to make .5 past light speed you know.

Now you’ve got 3 point to play with. Maybe a bid? I dunno how hot the PS10 war is. At PS 11 you need 3 points. PS 10? I guess you are up against PS10 Nym. So I’m not sure what to do with those points, maybe a Plasma torpedo on Poe?

I like @gennataos ' list a lot. BB-8 Poe over R2-D2 Poe all the way. I would use his exact Poe, but trade EU for Expertise on Rey.

You have sooooooo many options. @gennataos knows what hes talking about, his list is very poetent.

If you're not feeling confident in your arc dodging and really wanna take regen poe you could do something like this:

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@Mas2000 - If you're interested in my detailed arguments for how my list is built, I'll be happy to do so. The short version is I think range/engagement control + lessened predictability is better than regen and/or countermeasures. The further condensed version is good flying is better than cards.

@gennataos Hit me with what you know! I'm here to learn. It'll be my first regional that I'm going too. I really do like your list, the only thing I'd change is countermeasures for EU. I just think it's important to be able to pop that critical TL even if I was blocked. Plus with all the harpoon madness out there. Having two sources of shaking a TL seams stronger then just relying on Poe. Who can die awful quick to Hot-shot and bombs without regen.

Do you want to try the really fun, thematic Rey/Poe?

•Rey (57) - YT-1300
Veteran Instincts (1), •Finn (5), •Chewbacca (4), •Millennium Falcon (1), Smuggling Compartment (0), Inertial Dampeners (1)

•Poe Dameron, PS9 (43) - T-70 X-Wing
Push The Limit (3), •BB-8 (2), Advanced Optics (2), •Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

2 hours ago, Mas2000 said:

@gennataos Hit me with what you know! I'm here to learn. It'll be my first regional that I'm going too. I really do like your list, the only thing I'd change is countermeasures for EU. I just think it's important to be able to pop that critical TL even if I was blocked. Plus with all the harpoon madness out there. Having two sources of shaking a TL seams stronger then just relying on Poe. Who can die awful quick to Hot-shot and bombs without regen.

I'll argue against CM over Engine because boost on a large base ship is so powerful. Think about stuff like this...you set up to joust someone...if they do even a 1-forward and you do a 4-forward, you can boost and will be in range 3. (pro tip: it's even better when they decide not to joust and do a 2-hard away and you still shoot them) If you do a sloop and boost back, you've basically backed up a little and spun your arc around. Nothing in the game can reliably run away from you, not Miranda, not even Kylo. With Engine, you use that boost to dodge missile shots or get into range 1 so they can't fire the missile. Most thing which can fire a missile are way more scared of a range 1 shot from Rey than Rey is of their range 1 shot.

With BB-8, it might just be play style. I can't argue it's better than regen or the other way around. With BB-8 you can reliably shake more target locks, are much more difficult to block and much less predictable. It allows you to keep your arc on targets longer. You have more range control. You can use rocks as cover which makes it really hard to pin Poe down.

I can tell you this, because you've talked about all the harpoons out there. With my list, I'm not worried about a single ordnance list out there. Not even Deadeye. Not even high PS Imperials, despite not having a bid. Having initiative against that would make it easier, but it's not necessary.

Another thing to consider is that Poe is not a strong points fortress like he used to be. All the regen in the world isn't going to help Poe track down Kylo when it's just those two on the table. He's also not likely to win an end-game matchup against any Miranda with a missile. When those things are on the table, you have to kill them, and BB-8 does it better.

@Mas2000 How'd you do?

@ccjacks3 Sorry far getting back to you this late! I went 3-3 at the regional with PS 9 Poe and BB-8.

19 hours ago, Mas2000 said:

@ccjacks3 Sorry far getting back to you this late! I went 3-3 at the regional with PS 9 Poe and BB-8.

No worries! Thanks for getting back to me. Out of the losses, what was the most trouble?

I lost pretty hard to triple defenders... Ryad, and 2 Glaives

That's the list that usually gives me trouble with Rey + Poe. It's just really hard to chew through all of those tokens and Poe can't keep up with all the K-Turns.

48 minutes ago, ccjacks3 said:

That's the list that usually gives me trouble with Rey + Poe. It's just really hard to chew through all of those tokens and Poe can't keep up with all the K-Turns.

Really? Interesting. I find it's hard for Defenders to chew through Rey in time. It's key to take one out ASAP and also do your best to ensure only 1-2 are firing at you at all times. I'd rather bump one and eat some out of defensive arc shots than eat them all in arc. I think...?

On 3/17/2018 at 8:13 PM, gennataos said:

Really? Interesting. I find it's hard for Defenders to chew through Rey in time. It's key to take one out ASAP and also do your best to ensure only 1-2 are firing at you at all times. I'd rather bump one and eat some out of defensive arc shots than eat them all in arc. I think...?

I'll have to try that tactic next time.