So I've been having some thoughts and questions about how the community thinks ffg is going to handle there OP, with other miniature Games when you go to a tournament they have terrain set up. Will this be the case? Or will it be like x wing and each person needs to bring a few pieces of different sizes? How long will a round last? Will there be a recomended painting minimum? Will the store kits offer a seperat prize for best painted army? Or hobby score? I pose these questions to you the people!

4 hours ago, Beastsandbrews said:

So I've been having some thoughts and questions about how the community thinks ffg is going to handle there OP, with other miniature Games when you go to a tournament they have terrain set up. Will this be the case? Or will it be like x wing and each person needs to bring a few pieces of different sizes? How long will a round last? Will there be a recomended painting minimum? Will the store kits offer a seperat prize for best painted army? Or hobby score? I pose these questions to you the people!

I might be wrong, but I thought FFG, regards having painted armies to play...have always said its more important you are playing than you have them painted. Im sure most will be painted though ;]

Nothing to back any of this up other than FFGs previous form, but i expect something like this:

- Minis will not need to be painted

- All cards will have to be official and present for all units and upgrades. So no proxying, no printed cards etc.

- No hobby score/prizes for painting

- Round time....no idea, not sure how long an 800pt game will average out at yet

- Terrain: Tricky. Normally in wargames the TO is responsible for the tables (though locally they ask people to loan extra terrain for the day to help....we even ran a 16 table infinity tournament and had leftovers!). This will be the hardest shift from players of other FFG games i think. My gut fel says it'll be down to the TO again.

Like i said, this is nothing but guesswork though!

This is all pure extrapolation based on how FFG have done some previous games.

4 hours ago, Beastsandbrews said:

with other miniature Games when you go to a tournament they have terrain set up. Will this be the case? Or will it be like x wing and each person needs to bring a few pieces of different sizes?

I suspect more like X Wing, Players must bring barricades (As they are available in the core set). Stores will have the option of supplying terrain for players to set, fitting the tournament guide lines. Or a mix of both. (Players bring barricades and may sub for stores terrain if the want)

I am pretty sure for OP FFG will not require a player to bring game components that they FFG are not supplying.

I suspect when competitive OP starts FFG will start releasing new terrain that players can bring, and the terrain rules would read something like each player brings 1 small, 1 medium and 1 large piece of terrain.

4 hours ago, Beastsandbrews said:

How long will a round last?

Round 1 or Round 6? We have no idea, you could have 11 activation's a side potentially, so could be a while.

5 hours ago, Beastsandbrews said:

Will the store kits offer a seperat prize for best painted army? Or hobby score? I pose these questions to you the people!

Some will, some wont. I doubt there will be a 'best painted' prize in the kits they provide, however this game is new ground for them, and it would awesome if they did.

2 minutes ago, Sk3tch said:

Round 1 or Round 6? We have no idea, you could have 11 activation's a side potentially, so could be a while.

5 hours ago, Beastsandbrews said:

Actually the max activations is 16 but i doubt anyone will have that many points

I think there will be prizes for painting, though I don’t think it will be a requirement. Remember that legion is aimed squarely at the traditional war games market where this sort of thing is standard. It may almost be foolish not to implement it into their kits.

Does Runewars have a painting prize? if it does i'll lean towards "yes", if not i'll stick by "no" personally. I couldnt see anything in the rules, but ive not seen the actual prize pack.

Individual TOs will vary of course.

I would expect Star Wars LCG 2.0 before FFG OP doing prizes for painting. For terrain I am really curious. In there other games they have been crazy strict with only using the cardboard from the core sets, no acrylic or 3D. I could see them only allowing certain terrain, but maybe they will listen to the community and allow certain sized terrain or just a free for all. I can see TO or venues adding painting prizes. And concerning proxies, the stringent X-Wing community is now allowing non official alt art cards in tournaments; if you watch last years worlds top cut almost every player has unofficial alt art cards. I am sure they have the rule that you must have the official card on hand, FFG still generates a ton of their sales from cards in expansions no one wants.

I will only follow OP for guidance on how to define terrain as light vs heavy cover, and terrain height types etc.

Going to stay a filthy casual who just paints and plays thematic skirmishes with buddies.

Heck, they could have "Use these table set ups for this play season" in the TO packet with diagrams showing where Height X terrain should be, where barricades should be placed, where some form of difficult/line of sight blocking terrain should be, and any other obstacles. From what I read in the Runewares Tournament rules, they can't use that sort of setup since it involves content not included in Legion.

On 1/29/2018 at 11:30 PM, Beastsandbrews said:

So I've been having some thoughts and questions about how the community thinks ffg is going to handle there OP, with other miniature Games when you go to a tournament they have terrain set up. Will this be the case? Or will it be like x wing and each person needs to bring a few pieces of different sizes? How long will a round last? Will there be a recomended painting minimum? Will the store kits offer a seperat prize for best painted army? Or hobby score? I pose these questions to you the people!

Curve fitting the time that product page says vs the time the official tournament rules state for X-WING, Armada, and Destiny I calculate they will allot 106.9352 minutes for each tournament round of Legion. I am confident it will be exactly that long.

1 hour ago, NukeMaster said:

Curve fitting the time product page says vs the time the official tournament rules state for X-WING, Armada, and Destiny I calculate they will allot 106.9352 minutes for each tournament round of Legion. I am confident it will be exactly that long.

Seems reasonable!

Kinda get the feel FFG will play relaxed terrain for this with TO's setting up cool looking tables for events over perfectly balanced xwing style tables.

Nobody is going to play a 40k like game with just core set barricades and maybe some cardboard it just won't fly with one of their target audiences being 40k players.

20 minutes ago, DarkTrooperZero said:

Kinda get the feel FFG will play relaxed terrain for this with TO's setting up cool looking tables for events over perfectly balanced xwing style tables.

Nobody is going to play a 40k like game with just core set barricades and maybe some cardboard it just won't fly with one of their target audiences being 40k players.

Tbh, some of the major 40K tournaments ive seen dont have much more than that, and certainly dont have cool looking or interesting tables. And Warmachine/Hordes has 2d templates for most terrain features as standard at top levels these days for ease of play, even though it looks crap.

But i hope you're right, because thats so boring to look at.

7 hours ago, Extropia said:

Tbh, some of the major 40K tournaments ive seen dont have much more than that, and certainly dont have cool looking or interesting tables. And Warmachine/Hordes has 2d templates for most terrain features as standard at top levels these days for ease of play, even though it looks crap.

But i hope you're right, because thats so boring to look at.

Warmachine and Hordes typically uses 2d terrain at a local level. Any event run by Privateer Press uses 3d terrain.

I expect anything run by FFG to have 3d terrain supplied. Local areas will be up to the stores.

26 minutes ago, DarkTemplars said:

Warmachine and Hordes typically uses 2d terrain at a local level. Any event run by Privateer Press uses 3d terrain.

I expect anything run by FFG to have 3d terrain supplied. Local areas will be up to the stores.

I've played at Nationals on 2d terrain, but the UK may differ in that regard. it seems to have heavily swung into Playability/utility > visual impact.

Not a good or bad thing in itself, just not my cup of tea.