Force Push Rule Question

By Rogue Dakotan, in Star Wars: Legion

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I'm sure the movement rules are probably defined to handle this, but this could be odd:

Scenario A: Push a trooper. Then his unit activates and they move. He snaps back into cohesion around the unit leader, rendering the push pretty ineffective...

Scenario B: Push the unit leader trooper. Do all of the other troopers in that squad need to form up in cohesion with him now after he is pushed? Effectively pushing the whole squad?

Edit: NVM. it specifies UNIT, not a single mini. :P

Edited by Rogue Dakotan

It says trooper unit rather than trooper mini, so you are moving the entire unit. Also notice it says "perform a move" so you would follow the normal movement rules, that is you would move the unit leader first and then the squad moves into cohesion.

Edited by ShadowKite
Lol i guess you edited your post while I was typing my reply ;)
57 minutes ago, ShadowKite said:

It says trooper unit rather than trooper mini, so you are moving the entire unit. Also notice it says "perform a move" so you would follow the normal movement rules, that is you would move the unit leader first and then the squad moves into cohesion.

Yeah, this!

So if there are pits can we throw them in like we could in WotC's SW minis?

I remember someone on the Internet stating that force push could not be used over ledges. Citation needed.

I doubt you'll able to move them off the board, similar to the insta-kill for Repulsorlift vehicles.

57 minutes ago, steveisbig said:

I remember someone on the Internet stating that force push could not be used over ledges. Citation needed.

I think it was in the Team Covenant play-through.

4 hours ago, steveisbig said:

I remember someone on the Internet stating that force push could not be used over ledges. Citation needed.

should totally allow it though. Then troops have to be careful around ledges if there is a force user around.

I think that this could also be used to more quickly disengage your troops, especially for those 'race' objectives.

Tbh my initial thought was force pushing people into flamethrower range for giggles.

I know it's not as much damage potential, but force pushing someone out of melee with Vader so he can throw his light sabre at them will be excellent.

10 hours ago, steveisbig said:

I know it's not as much damage potential, but force pushing someone out of melee with Vader so he can throw his light sabre at them will be excellent.

Why would Vader want to throw his lightsaber at someone when he would tear them to shreds better in melee.

If range one is further than speed one you might see Vader pulling units closer so he can move in and cut them down.

20 minutes ago, NukeMaster said:

Why would Vader want to throw his lightsaber at someone when he would tear them to shreds better in melee.

If range one is further than speed one you might see Vader pulling units closer so he can move in and cut them down.

It's hard to say always in motion is the future, maybe because he would lose the game if he moved away from a mission objective, so a Lightsaber throw may be the best choice in a certain situation.

7 hours ago, NukeMaster said:

Why would Vader want to throw his lightsaber at someone when he would tear them to shreds better in melee.

If range one is further than speed one you might see Vader pulling units closer so he can move in and cut them down.

Of course 6 dice is better than 3 dice. My point is that throwing light sabres is cool, at least from a certain point of view (mine).

Edited by steveisbig
7 minutes ago, steveisbig said:

at least from a certain point of view (mine).

Only if he has the high ground.

Loadsa reasons to give him a ranged attack. The first one being to mess things up at range.

Edited by Sk3tch
2 minutes ago, Sk3tch said:

Only if he has the high ground.

He was the chosen Wan.

Can force push 'pull' them to you?

35 minutes ago, VAYASAN said:

Can force push 'pull' them to you?

Only if a 1 speed move would be able to.

1 minute ago, Vandallorian said:

Only if a 1 speed move would be able to.

35 minutes ago, VAYASAN said:

Can force push 'pull' them to you?

What would be a viable strategy for Vader and Luke is pull them to you and then charge/relentless

The ability to move your opponents units is very strong. Moving a unit out of cover, or off an objective. Very nice.

6 hours ago, steveisbig said:

Of course 6 dice is better than 3 dice. My point is that throwing light sabres is cool, at least from a certain point of view (mine).

Sorry, rereading your statement I realize I missed were you acknowledged the decreased damage. I agree it would be cool to see.

4 hours ago, Jabby said:

What would be a viable strategy for Vader and Luke is pull them to you and then charge/relentless

That is what I was thinking.

1 hour ago, DFocke said:

The ability to move your opponents units is very strong. Moving a unit out of cover, or off an objective. Very nice.

Everything mentioned above is why I think force push on Vader will be more important than lightsaber throw.

It also adds to the unstoppable theme they have going with him. If your opponent tries to tie him up by engaging him with a unit, Vader just throws them off and keeps on coming.

I plan to play a very force push heavy Vader.

Edited by NukeMaster
7 hours ago, steveisbig said:

Of course 6 dice is better than 3 dice. My point is that throwing light sabres is cool, at least from a certain point of view (mine).

But you won't actually see the Vader miniature throw that lightsaber. It's just you rolling 3 less dice :)

16 minutes ago, Lord Tareq said:

But you won't actually see the Vader miniature throw that lightsaber.

Well... not with that attitude. :P

I wonder if you can do [move - move - force push - attack] with Vader to essentially engage (non vehicle) units at up to distance 3. Making Vader's threat range quite a bit more impressive than his movement 1 indicates. But since Vader's rule says "After you perform a move action, you may perform a free attack action" I'm not certain it's allowed. Granted the rule does not say "directly after".

1 hour ago, Lord Tareq said:

I wonder if you can do [move - move - force push - attack] with Vader to essentially engage (non vehicle) units at up to distance 3. Making Vader's threat range quite a bit more impressive than his movement 1 indicates. But since Vader's rule says "After you perform a move action, you may perform a free attack action" I'm not certain it's allowed. Granted the rule does not say "directly after".

isn't using an exhaustable card an action? (or that symbol at the start of the card text means action) so it would have to be "Force Push - move - free attack"