Hello, i have played two games against my friends list (Deployment : Jedi Luke-Leia-Solo Rogue-Gideon-C3p0-MHD-19).

Yesterday i used (Εmperor Palpatine - Heavy Stormtrooper - E-web - Repulsor Tank - Royal Guards - Zillo ) with command cards mainly on Vehicles and Crush

We played MOS EISLEY BACK ALLEYS.

A Focused Solo, from 8 spaces away using Element of Surpised managed 6 hits on my Tank (using 3 defenses from Card, Royal G , Zillo).

Focused Leia was able to hold herself a crate all alone, and auto recover if taking hits.

In the previous game, Leia next to C3p0 and GIdeon , was impossible for my Inquisitor to defeat (cancelled all my surges)

Mhd has self healing plus others for 3 hits.

I think its a really impossible list to beat....any ideas?????

To clarify, i have already beaten it with Mercenaries, IG88 FOTK primarily, but i am looking for a good imperial list WITHOUT using Vader !!!! The meta game sucks if having to use only the OP cards to win

I Think eJets/Terro could be pretty solid. Han/Luke slash smuggler box is a mean combo so all and all I think the aspect of using "OP cards" to win is pretty much already being used by your opponent.

A couple of Sentry droids could be a solid addition too.

If your opponent plays a blatant OP-list, just play exactly the same list against his. He will eventually get bored of that list.

I had great luck against it using Onar Kuma, ePigs, Shyla Varad and Boba Fett. FFG need to breathe new life to dead imperal cards. (-5 deploy At-Sts maybe???)

Have you tried the AT-DP? In our games, it has proven to be quite a serious threat - not OP at all, but threatening.

I still can't understand the benefits of eJets, though

i havent bought heart of empire yet !!!

eJets are very fast, accurate, can get at the soft under-belly of the opposing team (Leia) pretty easy. Overrun is a pretty nasty tool to have in the box as well,

I dont own the AS-DP, but if I did I Think a list like AS-DP, 2xeJet, 2xOfficer, 0-0-0 (Luke does not like him a lot), Zillo and then either go 2xrJets if high vehicle focus, Terro or possibly Palp to fill up. For me, rJets for sure. Easy to sacrifice and sweet with overrun (even if not really thematic)

you are right RAM, only today did i read the 0-0-0 card, you can Bleed, Weaken, Stun Luke in one stroke. WOW !!!!

i had Palpatine 5 spaces ahead of my Repulsor tank with Overrun and Crush waiting. Alas i didnt get Lure of the Dark side in my hand so i would have an already wounded luke (if shot by Focused Solo) plus Tempt and then after he attacked my "lonely" palp i would deal +8 from crush overrun. My opponent got really lucky !!

3 hours ago, topacesteve said:

Hello, i have played two games against my friends list (Deployment : Jedi Luke-Leia-Solo Rogue-Gideon-C3p0-MHD-19).

Yesterday i used (Εmperor Palpatine - Heavy Stormtrooper - E-web - Repulsor Tank - Royal Guards - Zillo ) with command cards mainly on Vehicles and Crush

Heavy Stormtroopers and Royal Guards have been kinda replaced by their new fellas Jet Troopers and Riot Troopers, they cost less and deal way more damage.
Unfortunately you don't have Heart of the Empire yet, otherwise you could pick up Vader with Driven By Hatred and those Jet and Riot Troopers.
Before Jabba and HotE came into life, imperial lists were Trooper focused, Elite Stormtroopers were really, really great at dealing damage, and you can combo them with Reinforcements command card which make you Zerg.
I'd consider a list with like: Emperor Palpatine, 2x eStormtroopers, rHeavy Troopers, Dewback Rider (or eProbe Droid), rOfficer and Zillo and you just go with Grenadier, 2xReinforcements, Lure of the Dark Side and so on.

i dont think that any card may replace the +1 defence on other units or stun of the Royal guards. Also, a focused leia can easily kill one of them trying to cross 8 spaces to reach her. If at least we had Kayn Somos who is the exact opposite of LEIA at 7 Deployment points and same health (he doesnt have leias self healing) , then we would be talking....

Imperial got a big boost in the last two big box sets. I will pretty much straight up say that the entire faction is too weak to play without Jabba and HotE. Pretty much none of the older deployments are good enough when facing the new squads with the exception of the Imp officer and he is only as good as the other deployments in your squad.

5 hours ago, topacesteve said:

I still can't understand the benefits of eJets, though

You need to understand the timing effects of modifiers. When combined with Zillo, they have some tricky options to minimize damage

An Ugh-swarm should kill all the fun and push your opponent to change list next time

Sounds like you were up against a fairly competitive list with a rather suboptimal one. E-webs and repulsor tanks are among the worst Imperial units in the game while eHeavies have pretty much been phased out by newer units. Your opponent's list is by no means unbeatable, but you did not bring the tools to take it on. I echo others' sentiments that the Empire needs to stick with units from Jabba's Realm and later to keep up with the power curve. That means things like eJets, eSentries, Vader with Hatred, Palpatine, Terro, AT-DP...

Thanks a lot guys, i am beginning to see it now...

I finally used the following Deck : Royal Guard Champion - Bantha rider - rNexu - Dewback Rider - rJets - Temp Alliance - Zillo - Rule by Fear

with command cards: ¨OVERRUN - CRUSH - FIELD TACTICIAN- REINFORCEMENTS- BRACE YOURSELF-URGENCY-TO THE LIMIT-AGAINST THE ODDS-FACE TO FACE-READY WEAPONS-DEATHBLOW- FEROCITY- TOUGH LUCK - SET A TRAP - (AND OFCOURSE FLURRY OF BLADES) against my opponent

with : Jedi Luke - Solo (RS) -Leia - C3p0 - MHD-19 - Gideon.

I lost count of the attacks Solo performed in this game. Himself, order from leia, counter - attack and the end of round attack - wayyyy to OP card.

Anyway i managed to INSTA-KILL Luke with Flurry of Blades, Insta-Stampede the droids, Leia killed, got OVERUN by the Jets where she had already hit hard 6 hits from RCG.

rNexu and rJets are LOVELY and Cheap !!!

I finally Lost 39-40 due to my mistake for not leaving my 1 rjet at an unguarded waypoint and focusing on killing them all. I love this Build!!!!