4 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

So no offense but what's with some of you and Imperial V-Wings? Like, I get it. But you guys realize that The Empire doesn't have Astromechs right?

So we'd need an entirely new subclass of Astromechs. Just for The Empire.

Nah. You release a title that adds the Astromech slot, with the restriction that you may only equip astromechs with the "Imperial Only" restriction. There are always ways around these sorts of problems.

35 minutes ago, MacchuWA said:

Nah. You release a title that adds the Astromech slot, with the restriction that you may only equip astromechs with the "Imperial Only" restriction. There are always ways around these sorts of problems.

Or use existing generic Astromechs, or Errata Astros like Artoo and the like to be Rebel only. Not a big problem.

37 minutes ago, MacchuWA said:

Nah. You release a title that adds the Astromech slot, with the restriction that you may only equip astromechs with the "Imperial Only" restriction. There are always ways around these sorts of problems.

Or errata unique astromechs as Rebel only. It's not like it cannot be done with literally 5 minutes of work

5 hours ago, Velvetelvis said:

They should make a ship with 4 die primaries front and rear arc that can take a TLT and shoot it twice.

BLASTBOAT!

The decimator should have a 4 die primary, in all fairness.

2 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:

Rebels never used the v wing. Or scum. The empire did.

Did you follow the link that was in my post ?

> Eventually, private organizations, such as the Hutt Cartel, used V-wings after salvaging them. They were also used by the Mandalorians around the Battle of Yavin during a skirmish with the Zann Consortium.

Also, I don't see a reason why this old junk cannot be used by rebels in the same way as ARC-170 was released.

1 minute ago, Sandrem said:

Did you follow the link that was in my post ?

> Eventually, private organizations, such as the Hutt Cartel, used V-wings after salvaging them. They were also used by the Mandalorians around the Battle of Yavin during a skirmish with the Zann Consortium.

Also, I don't see a reason why this old junk cannot be used by rebels in the same way as ARC-170 was released.

Okay. The canonicity of these is questionable, and we have SEEN imperial V-wings in the movies. Also, V-wings were used in much greater numbers in imperial hands than the other factions even had access to.

42 minutes ago, RufusDaMan said:

Okay. The canonicity of these is questionable, and we have SEEN imperial V-wings in the movies. Also, V-wings were used in much greater numbers in imperial hands than the other factions even had access to.

It's legends, which is part of the inspiration of the game; even though I had many problems with Forces of Corruption the game was part of the old canon.

Yes they Empire used them but they don't "fit" as cutting edge ANH or later tech. If they put the V-wing in it should function like the ARC-170: good but expensive ship that the rebels/scum don't have a lot of.

2 minutes ago, impspy said:

It's legends, which is part of the inspiration of the game; even though I had many problems with Forces of Corruption the game was part of the old canon.

Yes they Empire used them but they don't "fit" as cutting edge ANH or later tech. If they put the V-wing in it should function like the ARC-170: good but expensive ship that the rebels/scum don't have a lot of.

Imperial Pioneers

V-Wing and ARC-170 box.

Imperial Refit.

Imperial only. V-Wing and ARC-170 only.

Your upgrade bar gains the system slot.

Astromech. 0 pts.

All other astromechs could be changed to be Rebel only.

YOu give pilots like "Clone Wars Veteran Pilot" and done. You have ships from the early empire era. They don't have to be cutting edge ANH stuff, since we have things from before ANH. (Rebels, R1).

Its not like the systems slot is new tech. It's just expensive. The U-Wing has a system slot. It's okay.

13 hours ago, mithril2098 said:

Guantlet is problematic though in that it is even larger than the VCX-100, almost Epic sized. but it definitely is more of a starfighter than a Epic ship. so it is in a kind of limbo.

VCX-100 'Ghost' Length (according to Wookieepedia): 43.9 Meters

Gozanti-Class Cruiser [imperial version] length (according to Wookieepedia): 63.8 Meters

Gauntlets Class Starfighter (According to StarWars.com): 52.3 Meters

((Just for good order: GR-75 length (according to Wookieepedia): 90 Meters))

this goes to show that size doesnt matter (no pun or weird joke intended; keep it clean) and that scale makes all the difference... But your initial sizes from the VCX and Gauntlet are correct...

EDIT: I think the gauntlet should be a normal fighter (not HUGE) but with the tripod of the VCX to show the size

Ignore the magnets for this example

6 minutes ago, Wookiee_Slayer said:

Length

Don't forgot about width

Width of Ghost is 34.2 meters
Width of Gauntlet is 52.4m

Gauntlet is too big in width. I thinks this is the reason why Imperial Raider was designed instead of use of existing imperial ships of the same class (they have too big width too)

TIE Hunter
TIE Oppressor
TIE Avenger

Sorry other factions.

1 hour ago, Sandrem said:

Don't forgot about width

Width of Ghost is 34.2 meters
Width of Gauntlet is 52.4m

Gauntlet is too big in width. I thinks this is the reason why Imperial Raider was designed instead of use of existing imperial ships of the same class (they have too big width too)

that is what I noticed too! But I didnt know for sure if it was too much... Thanks for confirming my suspicions .

14 hours ago, Warlon said:

I swear, if the Empire gets another stinking shuttle...

I don't know. Empire could use a troop carrier that has a decent number of crew slots, has no crew restrictions, and only costs around 15 points.

K-2SO.

6 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:

Rebels never used the v wing. Or scum. The empire did.

Actually in the new battlefront 2 game iden fights against some scum faction (forget what they were called) that were abducting children for the first order storm trooper program. They were using Arc 170s , V-wings and a nebulon frigate. The leader was also using a modified Naboo N-1 star fighter so don't count the v wing out for scum.

17 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

Empire could use a troop carrier that has a decent number of crew slots, has no crew restrictions, and only costs around 15 points.

As alternative way, Empire can have Palpatine-carrier that agile and maneuverable (like YT-2400/JumpMaster) and has better arc, to be able really to participate in combat.

I imagine TIE Reaper as 2-agility ship, with white 1 and 2 K-Turns, but no 3-4-5-speed maneuvers, and S-Loops or at least K-Turn. Maybe even 180-degrees arc. And 2 crew slots, of course =)

Just now, Phoenix5454 said:

Actually in the new battlefront 2 game iden fights against some scum faction (forget what they were called) that were abducting children for the first order storm trooper program. They were using Arc 170s , V-wings and a nebulon frigate. The leader was also using a modified Naboo N-1 star fighter so don't count the v wing out for scum.

"...and that one time in a galaxy of billions, some low end thugs used so and so fighter".

Yes, Scum used a lot of ships. Its kinda their thing. But not every ship used by some no name bandit should be a scum ship, because by that logic, EVERY SHIP is a scum ship.

1 minute ago, RufusDaMan said:

EVERY SHIP is a scum ship.

Now you are beginning to understand

Wave 14:

Something crap from a new movie.

Something from the EU that only 5 people have ever heard of.

Something far too expensive for what comes in the box.

Some overpowered BS.

Maybe they'll finally fix the X-wing...

...by giving it to scum and allowing scum mods and pilot abilities to make it flyable (looks sadly at Firespray).

18 hours ago, emeraldbeacon said:

Solo: A Star Wars Debacle Story

Now now. The internet said the same about Rogue One and turned out to be awesome. Speaking of which TIE Reaper is the obvious choice. Then I can play proper Scarif battles.

10 hours ago, mithril2098 said:

In Legends, the Empire used a version without Astromechs.

though i wouldn't mind imperial Astro's for older craft like the V-wing or Eta-2 Actis that we know the Empire used early on.

That defeats half the purpose of it, though. At that point it's literally just an Imperial A-Wing- do we actually want that?

8 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:

It could get a system slot instead. And the Arc-170 as well

I just... Feel like not having the astromech defeats the purpose.

6 hours ago, MacchuWA said:

Nah. You release a title that adds the Astromech slot, with the restriction that you may only equip astromechs with the "Imperial Only" restriction. There are always ways around these sorts of problems.

Which then leads to a wholly limited, likely very sad pool of Imperial Astromechs. Granted, it'd give us an excuse for BB-9E, but I just...

I mean imagine that you get BB-9E and the only ship you can use him in, is a fifty year old ship. I know, know gameplay takes precedence over fluff..? But like.

Just how asinine would that be?

3 hours ago, Stevey86 said:

Wave 14:

Something crap from a new movie.

Something from the EU that only 5 people have ever heard of.

Something far too expensive for what comes in the box.

Some overpowered BS.

Something you don't want, but comes with the upgrades you need?

8 hours ago, MacchuWA said:

Nah. You release a title that adds the Astromech slot, with the restriction that you may only equip astromechs with the "Imperial Only" restriction. There are always ways around these sorts of problems.

FFG could just do what they did for Scum and invent an astromech upgrade type called Imperial Astromech with the long cone-shaped astro droid head for its icon.