tanky Rey... 38 points left

By Wiredin, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Rey's my woman, love that girl.

Rey (45)
Expertise (4)
Finn (5)
C-3PO (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Total: 62

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which is the Kraytvented Rey Build that I've tried a few times even tho I'm told I'm wrong... I don't agree and I took it out again last night and liked it a lot. SO.... what can I throw in with her that is NOT MIRANDA.

Miranda is not my homie. we don't get along. I get her killed. she doesn't like that.

Fenn Rau + Adaptability + Inspiring Recruit + R5-P9
Captain Rex

To clarify, I'd fix your Rey build to drop 3p0 and EU, add Kanan crew, and add a really good Poe build.

Rey (59) Expertise, Kanan Jarus, Finn, TFA Title, Snuggling Compartment, Inertial Dampners
Poe (41) Intensity, BB-8, Primed Thrusters, Black One, Autothrusters. (or drop intensity for VI and a 1 point bid, depending on the meta and prevalance of PS10-11s).

I'm assuming your title is the TFA title. Kanan lets you use that title, then discard the stress from the sloop so that Expertise will still trigger. Running TFA title and Expertise without Kanan means you're either wasting the title, or wasting Expertise. I'd fly what I just listed over a 62 point Rey that you listed and anything else.

28 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

To clarify, I'd fix your Rey build to drop 3p0 and EU, add Kanan crew, and add a really good Poe build.

Rey (59) Expertise, Kanan Jarus, Finn, TFA Title, Snuggling Compartment, Inertial Dampners
Poe (41) Intensity, BB-8, Primed Thrusters, Black One, Autothrusters. (or drop intensity for VI and a 1 point bid, depending on the meta and prevalance of PS10-11s).

I'm assuming your title is the TFA title. Kanan lets you use that title, then discard the stress from the sloop so that Expertise will still trigger. Running TFA title and Expertise without Kanan means you're either wasting the title, or wasting Expertise. I'd fly what I just listed over a 62 point Rey that you listed and anything else.

I used to run the Expertise/Kanan/Finn/TFA/comp/counter measures/crane a lot, but I'm finding since harpoons have shown up the extra defensive stacking between c-3po/finn/evade title/engine helps rey live a heck of a lot longer. It's like a Fat Han with a bit more power when ships are in arc. Engine and the pretty decent dial really help keep ships in arc.

ask @catachanninja what he thinks about C-3P0/Engine Rey :)

Edited by Wiredin

You got enough points to run Lowhhrick with Luke and Tactition. Double-stress some ships, give Low some offense, keep Rey around even that much longer.

Rey (45)
Expertise (4)
Finn (5)
C-3PO (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Lowhhrick (28)
Draw Their Fire (1)
Tactician (2)
Luke Skywalker (7)

Total: 100

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A stripped-down PS8 Poe may not be the best version of Poe you can take but would still be a viable option, and having both your ships with the same PS level is always useful. Something like:

Poe Dameron (PS8) - Push the Limit, BB-8, Black One, Integrated Astromech, Primed Thrusters (38pts)

Alternatively, you could pair her up with a tanky Luke or Red Ace for another ship that is difficult to kill:

Luke Skywalker - R2-D2, Shield Upgrade, EPT of your choice up to 2pts (I'd be tempted to take Draw their Fire to take some of the damage off Rey)

Red Ace - R2-D2, Comm Relay, Autothrusters (38pts)

The Auzituck would no doubt be good for that too but I haven't used one so can't advise on particular builds.

EDIT: I see I've just been beaten to it on the Auzituck and Draw their Fire suggestions...

Edited by JudgeDeath
42 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

I used to run the Expertise/Kanan/Finn/TFA/comp/counter measures/crane a lot, but I'm finding since harpoons have shown up the extra defensive stacking between c-3po/finn/evade title/engine helps rey live a heck of a lot longer. It's like a Fat Han with a bit more power when ships are in arc. Engine and the pretty decent dial really help keep ships in arc.

ask @catachanninja what he thinks about C-3P0/Engine Rey :)

What If fat han were also fen rau but also had a heavy laser cannon. So good you can almost make the cut at a regional playing down a shield all day.

I've taken to calling 38 point Miranda jogger miranda, not only cuz she's slim but she runs constantly.

I've been looking at other 38 options but haven't found much to love. Bb8 optics poe, lowrick with gunner tactician, somone ran a coolish wolfarro I saw. Jake Farrell and a bid seems ok. The partner is tank reys real weakness

Keyan with Rage, HLC, E2, and Inspiring Recruit comes in at 39.

I still don't understand the point of taking the TFA falcon title without also taking Kanan because it shuts down Expertise. I'd honestly rather have a 3-4 die turret with nothing in arc and a TL for action and expertise for mod than do the 3 sloop and have 4-5 dice with no mod other than rerolling a pair of blanks, assuming they forgot you could ghetto sloop.

Not for you, per the OP, but in theory Miranda Doni with TLT and either Jan Ors or Bomblet Generator could work at 37-38 points. Including for completeness for folks who might not dislike Miranda.

If I were doing a Poe, it'd be PS 8, Trick Shot, Black One, BB-8, Advanced Optics, Autothrusters.

Jan Ors with Wired, TLT could be the start of things, with maybe either Chewbacca and Vectored Thrusters, or Nein Nunb and Pulsed Ray Shield.

Nym with Trick Shot, TLT, and FCS might be OK (38). For a bomblet Nym, VI, TrajSim, Autoblaster Turret, Bomblet is 37 points. 37 also gets Nym with VI, Harpoon, ABT, and choice of GC/LRS. That'd be a pretty solid early game pop from the missile, plus a decent ace-hunting ABT.

Horton Salm with TLT, Chopper, Bomb Loadout, Ion Bombs, Extra Munitions, Guidance Chips is 36 points. TLT, Vectored Thrusters, R2-D6, and Expertise is 38, for a barrel rolling ship with full reroll and focus on all TLT shots.

Crimson Specialist with Accuracy Corrector, Thermal Detonators, Ordnance Silos, Crossfire Formation, Deflective Plating is also 38 points.

Also! An Auzituck with Selflessness or Draw Their Fire, Maul, and Ezra. 35 for Lowhhrick (maybe also add Vectored Thrusters?), 37 for Wullffwarro.

Edited by theBitterFig
9 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

Keyan with Rage, HLC, E2, and Inspiring Recruit comes in at 39.

I still don't understand the point of taking the TFA falcon title without also taking Kanan because it shuts down Expertise. I'd honestly rather have a 3-4 die turret with nothing in arc and a TL for action and expertise for mod than do the 3 sloop and have 4-5 dice with no mod other than rerolling a pair of blanks, assuming they forgot you could ghetto sloop.

He's running the Evade title, not the TFA title. He mentioned that in his reply to you and if you click the YASB link, it shows which title it is on the builder. I would agree with you though. If you're running TFA title, you'll pretty much have to spend points somewhere to have Kanan on if you're banking on Expertise working.

16 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

I still don't understand the point of taking the TFA falcon title without also taking Kanan because it shuts down Expertise. I'd honestly rather have a 3-4 die turret with nothing in arc and a TL for action and expertise for mod than do the 3 sloop and have 4-5 dice with no mod other than rerolling a pair of blanks, assuming they forgot you could ghetto sloop.

Even though it's Evade title, I don't think TFA is terrible. Many ships in the game use Segnor's Loops and K-Turns and lose actions to get position and arc. Having Rey get position and arc is handy, even if it isn't full mods that turn. A S-Loop at the right time could get you arc on multiple following turns.

That said, if I was going TFA-title Falcon/Rey, I'd take Kanan over Expertise. Evade/Expertise is solid, though.

2 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

I've been looking at other 38 options but haven't found much to love. Bb8 optics poe, lowrick with gunner tactician, somone ran a coolish wolfarro I saw. Jake Farrell and a bid seems ok. The partner is tank reys real weakness

Your not wrong.. 38 is such a strange point value. can't fit in 2 low cost effective ships and not enough for a powerhouse.

Norra is something I'm looking at... but will get burned down pretty quickly.

Norra Wexley (29)
Push the Limit (3)
Kyle Katarn (3)
R2 Astromech (1)
Vectored Thrusters (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Poe Dameron (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 38

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PS10 Ace that erases two locks.

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Nien Nunb (29)
Snap Shot (2)
R3-A2 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 38

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Stress control in list. Can be a nice advantage versus those PS11 dudes and stopping them in their tracks. People dont like stress control and will try and go for him first most likely, leaving Tanky Rey for last? Probably not, but that means Nien just goes to work stressing while they spend rounds trying to kill Rey.

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Captain Nym (Rebel) (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
Long-Range Scanners (0)
Havoc (0)

Total: 37

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Area control with bombs. And helps against those rebel squads with Low/Fenn that like to stay together. It's not sexy Nym with harpoons, but still dangerous at PS10 with bombs and ABT

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Fenn Rau (Sheathipede) (20)
Adaptability (0)
Kyle Katarn (3)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)

Captain Rex (14)

Total: 38

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Just go all in on Tanky Rey. Fenn coordinates a ps10 boost or evade (if she gets blocked), katarn gives Fenn a focus every round. Rex is rex. Could go VI+tactician on Fenn to give a bit of stress control in the list as well.

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"Crimson Specialist" (27)
Accuracy Corrector (3)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 37

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Sounds weird, I know, but I fly this dude with Dash and he puts in work. Kinda fly him like Asajj, go around the outside, laying bombs on the inside to cut out the middle, and boost past arcs or go for blocks while always getting two hits. It just plinks those gunboats to death and they have a hard time chasing him cause they either get bombed or slam and cant shoot.

Edited by wurms

I totally forgot about Stress Nein! I'm going to try that for sure.

I totally missed that it was the evade title. In which case... I'm super not nuts about Finn being on board as a crew member. The TFA title makes sense with Finn because its easier to get something in arc and add that blank for Rey's reroll. Without that title, I think its even easier to stay out of the falcon's arc. And in that case, I think you can safely kick Finn to the curb. Rex + Gunner might be a good combo of crew at that point, and frees up a point to add to the wingmate.

@JasonCole when you can evade a 4 dice attack and then throw back a 5 dice attack... the days good

1 hour ago, wurms said:

"Crimson Specialist" (27)

Accuracy Corrector (3)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 37

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Sounds weird, I know, but I fly this dude with Dash and he puts in work. Kinda fly him like Asajj, go around the outside, laying bombs on the inside to cut out the middle, and boost past arcs or go for blocks while always getting two hits. It just plinks those gunboats to death and they have a hard time chasing him cause they either get bombed or slam and cant shoot.

Engines seems really good there! I had to take a second and dig out bases and bomb tokens to measure, but pretty much unless place the bomb on the front corner and turn/bank in that direction, and then boost in the same direction, you'll get out of the explosion radius. It'd be nice to find the points for Sensor Cluster, but still, that's a nifty build.

1 hour ago, Wiredin said:

@JasonCole when you can evade a 4 dice attack and then throw back a 5 dice attack... the days good

I couldn't agree more. Which is why I'd never let it happen if I were flying against it. ;)

I have had some success with

Rey - VI, 3PO, Finn, Evade Title, EU (59)

Poe (PS8) - VI, R2-D2, AO, B1, AT (41)

I REALLY miss Expertise though...

Norra works if you use regen norra:

Norra (38)

Alliance overhaul - 0

Push the Limit - 3

R2D2 - 4

Vectored Thrusters or Tail gunner - 2

1 hour ago, arsuf476 said:

Norra works if you use regen norra:

Norra (38)

Alliance overhaul - 0

Push the Limit - 3

R2D2 - 4

Vectored Thrusters or Tail gunner - 2

Thinking about Norra, it strikes me that Jyn Erso wouldn't be terrible. Maybe Rey is stressed or would be stressed, and this could toss her some focus. Maybe Norra wants focus to use both offensively and defensively. Jyn is also a 2-point crew, and would fit in nicely as a way to sometimes get multiple focus.