11 hours ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

Okay, so I see a Jedi Starfighter, a weird looking speeder bike dealy, a snowspeeder, something obscured by word bubbles, something with an X-Wing looking front and lambda wings, an A-Wing, a TIE, an N-1, a landspeeder, and an E-Wing.

anyone have a clue what the Unidentified are?

the one with the folded wings might be a Z-95 variant.

and has anyone posted this in the X-wing section of the forum? i suspect there would be more of a response over there.

9 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

I'm wondering, because it sounds a lot like how it was previously . Rather than how it is now...

I mean, if I substitute words, it lines up:

With George-Canon (Source),

Movie-Canon (Official), and

Book/EU (Proprietary)...

Sorry I had to give a short reply. I had to leave for work.

But more or yes you got it right now. It is much like academic writing only not much in depth. Sources come int both primary and secondary, however with fiction it can be kind of tricky because often a lot of questions the source hasn't came up with the answer and is fabricating them often at a later date.

Take the last two movies for example. The Force Awakens was more a rehash of the source but it add in a lot of questions about the new cast of characters. The next movie the Last Jedi gets all those questions answered by a different person but not in a very meaningful way. For the Source of Star Wars, George Lucas was able to complete the story of the Death Star Galactic Rebellion before he completed the Story of the Clone Wars. It can be argued if it were not for the success of the first story in theaters the second one would not exist.

As for secondary sources true they come from Primary sources, but so do much of Primary sources take other sources and build on them. Star Wars was a build on of pop 60s sci fi like Flash Gordon. So yeah secondary sources can be rewritten.

We all know one of the most famous fictional universes to have gone through what Star Wars is going through now is the Lord of the Rings universe from Tolken. I don't like citing wikipeda but here is a link.

There is also an interesting book called dictionary of imaginary places if you are into scholarly literature. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was about as far as I can go, Milton was a little over my head.

Hope you find it interesting at the least.

In Canon I can totally see it being something created as a (failed) competitor for the T-65 or to be sold to planetary defense forces in the early days of the new republic until Incom and Freitek fused. Afterwards it could have been an inspiration for the T-70 since the Cockpit and fuselage are so similar.

It would definitely explain its rare appearance because that would make it relatively obscure.

The Dictionary of Imaginary Places reminds me of my old university.

They actually had a Parageography department (the geography of fictional places). I took Parageography 101 from the professor. Great class.

Required reading was Tolkien, Donaldson, Lewis, etc. All our writing involved describing and creating new imaginary locations.

12 hours ago, LennoxPoodle said:

In Canon I can totally see it being something created as a (failed) competitor for the T-65 or to be sold to planetary defense forces in the early days of the new republic until Incom and Freitek fused. Afterwards it could have been an inspiration for the T-70 since the Cockpit and fuselage are so similar.

It would definitely explain its rare appearance because that would make it relatively obscure.

Freitek has been established in the canon as existing, and to be honest, i would not be surprised if they use the Legends background of them being Incom's staff from before the Imperial's nationalized the company (which happened in both legends and canon, though it appears to have happened earlier in canon). Presumably the Empire laid off a lot of people, and others quit. i could see many of them creating their own startup company after. them being a fairly small company could also explain why we haven't seen much stuff from them yet in the canon. the E-wing could easily have been something they came up with, explaining why it has some similarities to the T-65 X-wing. all the other stuff in the scene is older, from the Galactic civil war or earlier, so the E-wing could easily have been pre-Yavin in canon, meant to exploit the market position the T-65 had filled before Incom was nationalized.

@mithril2098 Wait, I actually was under the impression that the T-65 happened after the nationalization of Incom and is a failed fighter for the imperial Navy monetized in... "different" ways.

that is how it was in legends. but in canon, it has been established the T-65 was created before the UT-60 U-wing was designed, and that the U-wing was the very last design Incom created before nationalization. the U-wing in turn has been stated to be an old design, from before the Empire's standardization of ship systems, which means it would have to have been made in the first few years after the end of the clone war.

the T-65 has also been established as having had strong sales to the public prior to the nationalization. in canon, it was apparently not designed for the Empire, though it was apparently designed to replace the Republic's Clone Z-95's and ARC_170's. (presumably, like the A-wing, the war ended before the design was finalized, and with the Republic becoming the Empire and adopting a different military doctrine, the Empire was not interested.)