Is recanonised a word? I don't know, it is now.

Anyways, this is from the latest Poe Dameron Comic. Lower Right hand corner.

It certainly appears to be!

I would go further: It cannot be anything else!

Much as I like them in Armada, I was amused by how the Black Fleet crises introduced both E-wings and K-wings and then the rest of the authors came up with reasons to not use them after that (for the most part).

4 minutes ago, Formynder4 said:

Much as I like them in Armada, I was amused by how the Black Fleet crises introduced both E-wings and K-wings and then the rest of the authors came up with reasons to not use them after that (for the most part).

I thought the E-Wing was introduced in the Dark Empire comics

I know from the new Cross-section and dictionary books that the T-70's engines are "Icom-Fretik", and in Legends Fretik was the company founded by the former Icom engineers that defected and later designed the E-wing. So it does still fit in easily enough. Simple solution was after the New Republic largely disarmed, E-wing production was no longer deemed needed and was superseded by the newer X-wing designs. Think F-22 (E-wing) vs F-35 (X-70/80). Prob a better fighter, but more expensive to build, maintain (specialized R7 droids were needed in old EU) , and train on. Maybe E-wing was more straight dog-fighter where X-wing was a better escort, and more useful in peacetime.

4 minutes ago, jamie nasmyth said:

I thought the E-Wing was introduced in the Dark Empire comics

It was

3 minutes ago, jamie nasmyth said:

I thought the E-Wing was introduced in the Dark Empire comics

Well, as one who read almost all the books, and none of the comics until recently, that was the first time they were novelized.

Until they are given the same treatment as Thrawn and TIE Defenders they are still legends.

Still remember that nothing is permanent until it is in a movie , and even that is no guarantee.

1 hour ago, ianediger said:

Is recanonised a word? I don't know, it is now.

Anyways, this is from the latest Poe Dameron Comic. Lower Right hand corner.

Okay, so I see a Jedi Starfighter, a weird looking speeder bike dealy, a snowspeeder, something obscured by word bubbles, something with an X-Wing looking front and lambda wings, an A-Wing, a TIE, an N-1, a landspeeder, and an E-Wing.

anyone have a clue what the Unidentified are?

The one in the center of the room looks like a modified V-wing from RotS.

1 hour ago, Salted Diamond said:

I know from the new Cross-section and dictionary books that the T-70's engines are "Icom-Fretik", and in Legends Fretik was the company founded by the former Icom engineers that defected and later designed the E-wing. So it does still fit in easily enough. Simple solution was after the New Republic largely disarmed, E-wing production was no longer deemed needed and was superseded by the newer X-wing designs. Think F-22 (E-wing) vs F-35 (X-70/80). Prob a better fighter, but more expensive to build, maintain (specialized R7 droids were needed in old EU) , and train on. Maybe E-wing was more straight dog-fighter where X-wing was a better escort, and more useful in peacetime.

That analogy did not work.....

1 hour ago, Marinealver said:

Until they are given the same treatment as Thrawn and TIE Defenders they are still legends.

Still remember that nothing is permanent until it is in a movie , and even that is no guarantee.

Incorrect.

Movies were the basis for canon - but unless they are labelled as legends, publications - such as books and conics, ARE canon.

I'm blessed a bit by having the Audiobook of "A New Dawn", which has a foreword by David Filoni. He goes on in that to explain what the whole canon thing means with Lucas Retiring and the Storygroup changeover (independant of Disney)... In which case, the summary of it is, all stories, wether book, comic, animated, live action short or film all share the one Universe . The idea of some being canon and some not is gone. From that point onwards - There is only Canon, when it comes to stories .

(Which we know to be amended to state that videogame content is generally considered canon but their individual player storylines are not... And board games and miniature games, such as Armada, are in that decidedly grey area too...)

26 minutes ago, Tirion said:

That analogy did not work.....

Was just trying to compare 2 fighters. As F-22 is supposedly a better fighter but F-35 is meant to be more multi-roll (was Army myself, but have a buddy who was Air Force and got trained on maintenance for both).

Maybe the RAH-66 Comanche vs. upgraded AH-64D Apache would work better (pretending that the RAH-66 actually got into production/deployment)

25 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Incorrect.

Movies were the basis for canon - but unless they are labelled as legends, publications - such as books and conics, ARE canon.

I'm blessed a bit by having the Audiobook of "A New Dawn", which has a foreword by David Filoni. He goes on in that to explain what the whole canon thing means with Lucas Retiring and the Storygroup changeover (independant of Disney)... In which case, the summary of it is, all stories, wether book, comic, animated, live action short or film all share the one Universe . The idea of some being canon and some not is gone. From that point onwards - There is only Canon, when it comes to stories .

(Which we know to be amended to state that videogame content is generally considered canon but their individual player storylines are not... And board games and miniature games, such as Armada, are in that decidedly grey area too...)

Do you mind saying that again in common speak? All, books, stories, comics (with approval of Disney??) are canon?

Also, are you ok? You have tons of typos, not usual form for you. (Take it as a compliment, you're usually very tidy)

Conics, wether, "he goes on in"

9 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Do you mind saying that again in common speak? All, books, stories, comics (with approval of Disney??) are canon?

Unless labelled Not. That is the intended gist of it, yes.

From, I think the date was April 24, 2014 (I know it was a date in April... ) all stories unless they are specifically labelled as legends , are Canon. As they are approved by Lucas-film Limited Story group. (the "LFL" on all of our card arts, for example)

They are generally written in collaboration with and the full understanding of the Story Group. The Story Groups very existence is to ensure that the stories are consistent and maintain the integrity and feeling of the universe. If there is something outrageous, or something that messes up with the future planning and intentions - then it doesn't get approved... There is a chance it may be approved as a legends story, but to my knowledge, that has not happened yet.

Pablo Hidalgo is jokingly referred to as the "Keeper of the Holocron", which is basically the story bible that everyone works with and for and from... He essentially ultimately has a final say in what is canon and what is not.

Now, I caveat that (personally) with the fact that this is what, essentially, I've been told in both official means (such as the foreword by David Filoni) but also by a few Writer-Contacts who have been approached by LFL to potentially write stories in the universe (none of them have actually been selected thusfar)... And as I'm not a comic book reader (and in-fact, all of the books I've gotten since the changeover have been unabridged Audio Books, without an actual spot of real text), I don't know if they are adhering to that lofty goal on a personal level.

And well spotted. In short, no, I'm not alright. I've mentioned in a few places on the forums some things that heavily effect me right now... I know we're generally not best-of-terms, so I acknowledge that you probably don't follow me close enough to have seen them - which is cool... You've been doing a lot of your own thought-posting on subjects which has no doubt kept you busy, which is also good on its own. For me, its basically, I need either a lot of time of hellish circumstance to work its way past, or I need a lot of money to make it go away quickly...

I've seen some of your posts about IRL issues. While we aren't best-of-terms, please know, I wish you well in this regard.

Thanks for keeping up the finer details of rules, dates, official stances, etc.

Just now, Blail Blerg said:

I've seen some of your posts about IRL issues. While we aren't best-of-terms, please know, I wish you well in this regard.

Thanks for keeping up the finer details of rules, dates, official stances, etc.

No worries.

It is just Rules in another Format, basically, after all... And Rules are what I'm all about

55 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Incorrect.

Movies were the basis for canon - but unless they are labelled as legends, publications - such as books and conics, ARE canon.

I'm blessed a bit by having the Audiobook of "A New Dawn", which has a foreword by David Filoni. He goes on in that to explain what the whole canon thing means with Lucas Retiring and the Storygroup changeover (independant of Disney)... In which case, the summary of it is, all stories, wether book, comic, animated, live action short or film all share the one Universe . The idea of some being canon and some not is gone. From that point onwards - There is only Canon, when it comes to stories .

(Which we know to be amended to state that videogame content is generally considered canon but their individual player storylines are not... And board games and miniature games, such as Armada, are in that decidedly grey area too...)

There are different levels of Cannon,

• Source Cannon: The Origional Source for the purest this case the first set of movies
• Official Cannon: Star Wars Movies or Primary sources
• Proprietary Cannon: Officially licensed cannon (can be rewritten by propriety holder)
• Discontinued Cannon: Rewritten of ignored or discontinued.
• Fanfic: Not cannon, unofficial.

7 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

There are different levels of Cannon,

• Source Cannon: The Origional Source for the purest this case the first set of movies
• Official Cannon: Star Wars Movies or Primary sources
• Proprietary Cannon: Officially licensed cannon (can be rewritten by propriety holder)
• Discontinued Cannon: Rewritten of ignored or discontinued.
• Fanfic: Not cannon, unofficial.

Do you have an official statement for that?

I mean, here's LFL discussing bits and pieces:

http://www.starwars.com/news/swca-one-big-story-star-wars-canon-panel-liveblog

http://www.starwars.com/news/disney-publishing-worldwide-and-random-house-announce-relaunch-of-star-wars-adult-fiction-line

http://www.starwars.com/video/pablo-hidalgo-extended-interview

Just now, Drasnighta said:

Do you have an official statement for that?

Yes

6 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

Yes

I'm wondering, because it sounds a lot like how it was previously . Rather than how it is now...

I mean, if I substitute words, it lines up:

With George-Canon (Source),

Movie-Canon (Official), and

Book/EU (Proprietary)...

1 hour ago, Marinealver said:

There are different levels of Cannon,

• Source Cannon: The Origional Source for the purest this case the first set of movies
• Official Cannon: Star Wars Movies or Primary sources
• Proprietary Cannon: Officially licensed cannon (can be rewritten by propriety holder)
• Discontinued Cannon: Rewritten of ignored or discontinued.
• Fanfic: Not cannon, unofficial.

Yeah... that sounds like the old canon policy.

The whole reason for Legends exsisting is so that they could start over and everything new being straight canon; no layers like before.

And yet we know how the whole issue of Rey and Poe meeting each other for the first time in TFA the novelization and in TLJ. Supposedly this is has been explained away that deleted scenes are not technically canon so I guess that means that there is some ambiguity, aka if it is in film it is canon which can contradict at least novelizations or others works if necessary or the director wishes.

End result: If the E-Wing is recanonized, i will be a very happy rebel