Seek & Destroy

By wurms, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Or is it Thweek & Destroy? :P

(38pts) Thweek w/ FCS,Titles,AT,Glitterstim,Adv Proton Torpedoes

(32pts) Fenn w/ Attanni,Title,AT

(27pts) Scout w/ Attanni,Intel

Total: 97pts

Really enjoy this list - so fun and deadly!

So easy to get range 1 with thweek, i figure might as well make the enemy pay, so added adv proton torps to Thweek. This also essentially makes him 41pts in tournaments if he is your endgame ship (38+3pt bid) instead of a puny 30 or 32pts. So you beat Quickdraws, attanni asajj, etc.

Played against Miranda,Stress Ezra,Crimson Specialist.

Ezra double stressed Fenn first engagement. Fenn and Thweek took some shields from miranda. Miranda slammed away next round as I thought, so I just hard 1 with thweek and got range 1 of ezra. Took a TL and popped glitter for APT. 4 hits and a crit! Of course ezra rolls paint, every **** time i fire at him, so 2 hits and a crit go through, but the combo worked nicely!

Ezra dropped two rounds later. Thweek b-rolled into miranda range 1 after clearing some ezra stress and got 3 damage in. A couple rounds later Thweek finally ate it. Miranda got cornered though, coming toward fenn. Fenn was able to boost into Mirandas range 1 and finished her off.

Bombs did most of the damage to my aces since two of em where dropped every **** round, ugh. Fenn survived with 1 hull and scout still had shields.


Edited by wurms

Thweek is nice, though APT/Glitter seem thoroughly optional.

I think, with your freedom regarding points, that Fenn should get PTL. It's just better.

I would then r e a l l y bumpmaster the bumpmaster. Intel agent, Ion Projector, Intimidation. That's a ship you really don't want to touch.

Leaves you 6 points for flavour.

11 hours ago, Greebwahn said:

Thweek is nice, though APT/Glitter seem thoroughly optional.

I think, with your freedom regarding points, that Fenn should get PTL. It's just better.

I would then r e a l l y bumpmaster the bumpmaster. Intel agent, Ion Projector, Intimidation. That's a ship you really don't want to touch.

Leaves you 6 points for flavour.

I agree, would spend the points more evenly. Stay at 98 or so to fly last with thweek

Edited by flooze

On the one hand, I love it whenever someone puts Advanced Proton Torpedos into a list. On the other hand, it's not THAT much better than Thweek's own attack at range 1 (4.98 damage vs 3.75 damage). However, the MOV play seems interesting. I've never really put too much thought into that aspect of my lists, most of the time. I started thinking about it with PTL Fenn Rau back when Palp/Commonwealth Defenders was a thing, and how he was fewer points than either Ryad or Vessery, so he'd kind of have to kill both. However, that aspect of list building has seldom crossed my mind since.

More broadly, I'm not sure if I'm into the Attanni build, however. The jumpmaster seems like it'll often want to take a non-focus action, which limits Fenn. I'm not entirely sure how I'd build a Fenn list, though, and keep both the Fat Thweek and a reasonable bid.

2 hours ago, Greebwahn said:

Thweek is nice, though APT/Glitter seem thoroughly optional.

I think, with your freedom regarding points, that Fenn should get PTL. It's just better.

I would then r e a l l y bumpmaster the bumpmaster. Intel agent, Ion Projector, Intimidation. That's a ship you really don't want to touch.

Leaves you 6 points for flavour.

I ran a pretty similar list last weekend, in a lot of ways. I kept FCS/Glitterstim on Thweek, no Torpedo, went Intimidation/Intel Agent/Burnout SLAM/Anti-Pursuit Lasers on the Bumpmaster, but went with Guri with PTL (5 point bid, so I guess either of my small ships was worth 37 if alone). I can see Fenn Rau possibly being better than Guri, but I'm absolutely in love with PTL Starvipers right now.

Edited by theBitterFig

Riffing on the idea of a fat Thweek + Bid, this one goes up to 44 points with a 6-point bid; higher than most Poe Dameron. I'm not sure if this N'Dru can pull it off given Black One and Countermeasures, but if he can, a 5-dice Harpoon with Focus/TL/GC is quite a bit of "seek and destroy." Greedo on a TLT/Mindlink Lok was something I started thinking about before the Attanni nerf. Of course, this is radically unlike the OP, but the concept of a super-expensive Thweek was interesting to me.

Thweek (38) StarViper (28), Advanced Proton Torpedoes (6), StarViper Mk. II (-3), Autothrusters (2), Virago (1), Fire-Control System (2), Glitterstim (2)

Lok Revenant (34) Scurrg H-6 Bomber (26), Attanni Mindlink (1), Twin Laser Turret (6), Greedo (1), Long Range Scanners (0)

N’Dru Suhlak (22) Z-95 Headhunter (17), Harpoon Missiles (4), Attanni Mindlink (1), Guidance Chips (0)

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Yeah, this wouldn't work...

8 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

I'm not sure if this N'Dru can pull it off given Black One and Countermeasures, but if he can, a 5-dice Harpoon with Focus/TL/GC is quite a bit of "seek and destroy."

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N’Dru Suhlak (22) Z-95 Headhunter (17), Harpoon Missiles (4), Attanni Mindlink (1), Guidance Chips (0)

If you are afraid of black one, what about deadeye on n'dru?

Edited by flooze
5 hours ago, flooze said:

If you are afraid of black one, what about deadeye on n'dru?

Then you couldn't put Attanni on the Lok Revanant, and I might need to switch to like Concussion Missiles/Glitterstim on N'Dru. The sweetest thing about Attanni N'Dru is that he can get Focus/TL/GChips, maybe, for a 5-dice missile (6 with cruise, but hard to pull off). Deadeye makes an easier missile, but harder full-mods.

Realistically, Deadeye is probably enough, 4.5 hits expected with Harpoons, 60% chance of 5 hits. But like, it's not the 98% chance of 5 hits from Attanni. :D