I was flying a 1 agility ship with Lightweight Frame the other day. A game effect reduced its agility to zero. I argued that I should still get the LWF die to roll, going by the precedent that "all" includes the value zero. Since you can spend a focus to change zero eyeball results, I figured you could roll the LWF die after rolling zero agility dice.

It was insisted upon me by two other players that this is not in fact the case. I am highly dubious.

The trigger is simply after rolling defense dice. I did so...in the quantity of zero. Thus nothing should prevent LWF from activating.

Seems like it was mentioned at the table that this was maybe clarified in an email ruling, but I didn't find any such ruling by searching this sub forum. The only thread I found on the topic agrees with my reasoning.

So, did I miss an email ruling somewhere?

Those two players were wrong.

You still goto the "roll defense dice step" even if you have 0 defense dice, otherwise evade tokens woudl be useless.

LWF specifically calls out how many defense dice you just rolled compared to how many red dice there are. You rolled 0 defense dice, clearly theres more than 0 red dice so you roll 1 more green die.

The only possible way it would negate LWF is if either you rolled equal or more green dice than there were reds or the rules have you skip the "roll defense dice step" if you were agi0. Neither of those scenarios are true in this case, and the latter is against the rules to begin with.

1 hour ago, Vineheart01 said:

You still goto the "roll defense dice step" even if you have 0 defense dice, otherwise evade tokens woudl be useless.

100% correct. You do not skip rolling defense dice. You just rolled zero dice. Now if the card read like C3PO saying you must roll at least 1 die, then you could not use LWF.

Lightweight frame adds "a defense die". It does not affect the ship's agility value so anything that would reduce the ship's agility would not affect the bonus die from Lightweight frame.

It is the same with range bonuses and obstructed attacks. Those add dice but do not affect the attack or agility values of the ship.

So for example: if Wedge made an obstructed attack on a Decimator at range 2, the Decimator would still get to roll 1 defense die because Wedge's ability reduces the defender's agility value by 1 but the obstruction bonus is an added die rather than a bonus to the ship's agility value.

^For reference.

I think the FAQ needs the first entry on page 1 to be, in large bold text; "When instructed to roll, modify, or otherwise interact with dice: zero is a valid number of dice to roll, modify, or otherwise interact with. When instructed to do 'all' or 'any' of a thing, zero is a valid number of that thing to do - if instructed to do a specific number of things (example: 'roll 1 additional defense die') you must do exactly that number of things."

Quote

"First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naught in My sight, shall snuff it."

The Book of Armaments, Chapter Two, verses Nine to Twenty-One.

In the rules reference page 4:

• A ship with an agility value of “0” can still roll
additional defense dice granted by range combat
bonuses, obstructed attacks, card abilities, etc.