I like this fan made title. Y Wing only. 1 pt. Add System slot. Like the old warbirds equiped with extra electronics and pods, found with not wealthy airforces today.

Deployed 2, one veeery simple with FCS and Ion Turret. The other, Blaster Turret plus Accuracy Corrector.

This was the most intersting one. My pal never heard about the Long Probe, and Blaster Turret plus Acc Corrector as Y Wing upgrades open new ways.

My "enemy" fielded one V38 Assault Fighter (Tie Phantom Title, no Cammo, add TL action, -4 pts) witl LWF.

I loose by a wide margin but the Acc Blaster Turret killed one Tie Fighter Ace and we both learned more about X Wing while having fun. 60 minutes of anti stress teraphy after a weird day at work.

Final note. V38 Title plus LWF gives Imperial a viable tool to deploy a WW2 like "Heavy" fighter.

I toyed with a V38 title in the past... but isn't -4 cost too much?

26 minutes ago, Odanan said:

I toyed with a V38 title in the past... but isn't -4 cost too much?

Without Cloak, the TIE phantom is essentially a Z-95 with two bonus attack dice. A primary weapon attack die is generally about 6 points (Academy TIE to Alpha Squadron Pilot).

Certainly, a cloak-less TIE Phantom would need to be compared to the other 20-point ships:

Khiraxz (weapons 3, agility 2, 5 hits)

Protectorate (weapons 3, agility 3, 4 hits)

Mangler Cannon Heavy Scyk (weapons ~3, agility 3, hits 4)

TIE striker (weapons 3, agility ~3, hits 4)

TIE bomber (weapons ~3, agility ~3, hits 6)

TIE Interceptor (weapons 3, agility 3, 3 hits)

Without the ability to cloak (and I wouldn't add Target Lock as an action - buy a Fire Control System if it bugs you that much...) is a weapons 4, agility 2, hits 4 too powerful? Probably not, to be honest.

More importantly, a -4 point reduction doesn't allow you to field 5 - you can pack 4 with Fire Control System and Lightweight Frame (not a bad list) but that's it.

The "Longprobe" Y-wing is a fair enough title, but a couple of things are worth noting:

• Its turret was always locked forward - making Longprobe a card which precludes the BTL-A4 Y-wing title is a bit wrong - if anything it should be compulsory
• It does still carry turrets and torpedoes, so I'd make it a modification?
• 1 point for a systems slot....hmm. It's a powerful upgrade slot, so fair enough.

Many versions of the Long Probe found on the web (and in this Forum). Some of the require BTL A4 Title. Others not. If "real" Long Probe Y Wings were restricted to firing forward, let it be.

3 or 4 casual games outside my closed gaming group each month. So many options and variants that often we include some fan made cards just to test them. V38 title, -4 pts. Not my pal's maths, V38 variant as found.

Paired with LWF I think this is a viable ship. Not OP, I loose because I flew poorly after a long and boring day at work. Shadow Squadron Heavy Fighter.

I must do some research about the Long Probe. Fixed turret...interesting.

IIRC the Longprobe version actually is the BTL-A4, just a different name. It has a fixed weapon in place of the turret because the long-range version is one-seater to ease life support, and the other changes (longer life-support, better hyperdrive/navigation) are non-combat changes unsupported in X-Wing gameplay.

4 minutes ago, Hexdot said:

Many versions of the Long Probe found on the web (and in this Forum). Some of the require BTL A4 Title. Others not. If "real" Long Probe Y Wings were restricted to firing forward, let it be.

I don't think it's ideal either way; but having one as a title and one as a modification allows you to pack both if so inclined without forcing the choice upon you.

6 minutes ago, Hexdot said:

I must do some research about the Long Probe. Fixed turret...interesting.

I came across it in Star Wars Galaxies (albeit it's been in many other sources, possibly contradictory). As I understand it, the superior sensors package and extended range consumables went in the back seat 'space' (hence no turret gunner, hence fixed turret).

5 hours ago, Hexdot said:

I like this fan made title. Y Wing only. 1 pt. Add System slot. Like the old warbirds equiped with extra electronics and pods, found with not wealthy airforces today.

2 hours ago, Hexdot said:

Many versions of the Long Probe found on the web (and in this Forum). Some of the require BTL A4 Title. Others not. If "real" Long Probe Y Wings were restricted to firing forward, let it be.

From the Wook:

(So, requiring the -A4 Title + adding a System Slot sound pretty true to the lore.)

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BTL-A4 Y-wing

The BTL-A4 was a one-man version of the S3, which removed the gunner position and locked the overhead ion cannon in a forward-facing position. Shield strength was also reduced to boost engine speed. It was commonly used by pirate, mercenary, and private defense forces, and therefore was also used by the early Rebel Alliance as the primary starfighter for bombing and disabling roles. However, the lack of a gunner and reduced shields typically proved lacking and made the A4 unpopular among pilots. Notably, only one A4 fighter from the Alliance's Gold Squadron survived the attack on the Death Star at the Battle of Yavin.^[26]

As the BTL-S3 became the primary Y-wing variant of the Rebel forces, the A4 was still kept in many units as a supplementary craft. However, Red and Gold Squadrons favored^[27] the A4 variant of the Y-wing and used it with distinction in several climactic battles, such as the Battle of Yavin, the capture of the Death Star II plans from the Imperial freighter Suprosa^[28][29], and the subsequent Battle of Endor.

BTL-A4 Y-wing "LongProbe"

An additional (though less common) BTL-A4 variant known as the "LongProbe," designated BTL-A4 (LP), was equipped with a nav computer, backup hyperdrive, advanced scanners, and an extended fuel supply in place of the weapons systems officer.^[9] While this was not enough to make it into a true scout craft, its heavy armament gave it a better chance of survival and allowed it to occasionally cause damage to the targets it was scouting.^[9] The LongProbe was used primarily for long range scouting missions.^[30] On such missions, LongProbes operated in recon teams known as LongProbe Y-wing Recon Teams. One such team was sent to Alashan to check a Rebel archeological dig that failed to report back.^[31] In contrast with most other Y-wings, this variant was considered too valuable to remove from active duty by the New Republic.^[32]

“Long Probe”. Ummmm. Ewww.

I will try again. So mandatory A4 title, so Long Probe as title #2. Probably Acc Corrector as System.

Perhaps "Long Probe Mk II". 2 pts. Tech Slot (more advanced electronics).

I love this game...

6 hours ago, Hexdot said:

I will try again. So mandatory A4 title, so Long Probe as title #2. Probably Acc Corrector as System.

Perhaps "Long Probe Mk II". 2 pts. Tech Slot (more advanced electronics).

I love this game...

Here's my spin on all the Y-Wing variants:

Like Primary 3 Y wing with no turret. Lot of HPs, Low Agi, mediocre dial. Sturmovicks, you know...

I remember old Star Wars RPGs manuals. Only 2 lasers but heavy hitters. No turret and no pts value increase. Very interesting.