Adv sensor kylo is quite a bit of fun, but what on earth to pair it with?

2 deadeye rhos has been working well. Changing one to a plasma torp to make the list 98 points is also working ok.

Oicunn with 2 sets of cluster mines and dauntless has gotten some work done.

But...there must be more options...

Anyone has good ideas for 50 or under imperial points that can put out a ton of damage before it vaporizes?

Kylo minds want to know!

Adapt + Eu Rac. Or you can go for the pain special and drop EU for vader crew and VI.

Start with Countdown.

End with Sabacc.

Gunner/Vader patrol leader has to be worth looking at, right?

The common pairing is two deadeye rhos

That is what I have been using to Deadeye boats with harpoons. I am just looking for alternatives.

You can fit 2 Zeta Squadron Pilots w/ FCS, Title, and LWF with a PTL Kylo or a VI Kylo with 2 points to spare somewhere. I like the list for thematic reasons. Can't fit missiles though to unceremoniously blast Akbar out of the bridge.

Remember the Tie Aggressor? TLTs are still annoying.

A Palp Shuttle and Omega Leader fit too.

I also wish I had the stones to pair him with a loaded Whisper and a big bid. I've never gotten good with the Phantom because its one of the ships I just fail miserably with and abandon.

I've been pairing it with 2 HLC Nu squadron pilots. It's done quite well. Beat the dreaded 7-Z95s swarm.

Standard Soontir Fel and point fortress it up!

1 minute ago, SpikeSpiegel said:

Standard Soontir Fel and point fortress it up!

No way jose.

I am not packing nuggets of sufficient weight.

3 Epsilon Squadron Pilots, one with Hyperwave comm scanner to freely charge up Kylo’s AO. And 4 points to give the other two AO or Primed Thrusters or some combination to keep a bid if you wanted.

9 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Start with Countdown.

End with Sabacc.

That's the squad for my SO, she loves/d strikers. The downside is that strikers just don't look as cool anymore next to Kylo...

Now she's trying a Kylo/Sabacc/Gunboat mix next.

Just put on paper what @Jo Jo suggested.

It will be more fluff-wise with at least one missile on one /SF.

I've been running this:

46 Kylo w/ Ptl, AdvS, AT, Primed, Title [the title is optional depending on how high your meta's initiative bids are].
52 (2x) Nu w/ LRS, XG-1 title, HLC.

I find the HLC-Nus are more reliable than the Harpoon-Rhos, especially with all the Fenn in the meta at the moment. Also I consider Primed thrusters better than advanced optics. It covers one of Kylo's weaknesses (stress control).

If you want to go with RAC + Silencer, I think this build works better:

39 Blackout w/ Ptl, AdvS, AT.
61 Rac w/ Adapt, Kylo, Palp, Engine.

You can just use RAC + Kylo to PS0 your opponent's ace (if they have any).

I've also been considering a Gunner Vader Deci like @Biophysical. You have a couple of good choices for 52pts + Kylo:

52 Oicunn w/ Expert Handling, Gunner, Vader.
52 Patrol w/ Gunner, Vader, Engine.
51 Patrol w/ Gunner, Vader, Rebel Captive.

I've run all three of these in the past, and they're great.

Rhos or RAC/Oicunn are the most killy.

But I've been having a lot of fun with:
Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) — TIE Silencer 35
Push the Limit 3
Advanced Sensors 3
Advanced Optics 2
Autothrusters 2
Ship Total: 45

Commander Kenkirk — VT-49 Decimator 44
Lone Wolf 2
Ysanne Isard 4
Gunner 5
Ship Total: 55

I find that if you play the timer, then at worst you give up ½-55pts and win on points.

14 hours ago, Jo Jo said:

I also wish I had the stones to pair him with a loaded Whisper and a big bid. I've never gotten good with the Phantom because its one of the ships I just fail miserably with and abandon.

I tried this at a kit tournament, went 3-1. Unfortunately, with PS10 turrets and PS11 alpha strikes this is not a great place for a 2-ship whisper. You'd have to use Kylo to setup blocks for Whisper to fire on for max effect, and it just doesn't happen all that well. I had Whisper melt first every single game. I probably would have the same record just bringing Kylo.

Soontir on the other hand... you can run Soontir kitted out with Kylo and your choice of TIE Fighter to aid in blocking (and plenty of bid points). I like Dark Curse best at the moment!

Total: 97 points

??

I just started experimenting with Inquisitor with Cruise and Countdown (no bid though).

Also funny as I was just thinking of starting a thread about this.

16 hours ago, Velvetelvis said:

That is what I have been using to Deadeye boats with harpoons. I am just looking for alternatives.

Deadeye Rhos don’t concern me Admiral. When playing against them I’ve always been able to beat them.

I’m looking for what to pair him with too. Kylo comes in at 47 points, which really limits your options. I’ve had mixed results with VI Quick Draw and a cheap blocker TIE/FO (Epsilon, not Academy).

Poons are good to trigger IWSYTDS, maybe other crit generators like Omega Ace?

I've also been running this on vassal a bit lately:

46 Kylo w/ Ptl, AdvS, AT, Primed, Title.
41 Whisper w/ VI, FCS, Kallus, ACD.
12 Academy.
1 Initiative.

It's surprisingly good, and truly disgusting

My only problem with that list is whisper and the academy are more points....so when it becomes kylo solo in the endgame your losing instead of winning.

Still...maybe...maybe...

(Thoughtful beard stroking)

Pairing a 47 PTL/AdvS/AdvO Kylo with a TIE/FO has an appeal to me.

An Advanced Optics Epsilon Ace (19) gives a high PS pest, and leaves 34 points. That could be a VI/FCS/LWF Quickdraw, or perhaps a cheap /x7 Defender of some kind. Intensity or Lone Wolf Countess Ryad?

Dropping to an Epsilon Squadron Pilot at 17 points could open up PTL/TIEMk.II Countess, Outmaneuver Vessery, or add Advanced Optics to Quickdraw.

17 hours ago, Biophysical said:

Gunner/Vader patrol leader has to be worth looking at, right?

Just realized how nasty that is since you basically sacrifice the patrol leader to deal with anything that even has a remote chance of pinning down Kylo.

43 minutes ago, AlexW said:

Just realized how nasty that is since you basically sacrifice the patrol leader to deal with anything that even has a remote chance of pinning down Kylo.

I know jack about Imperials, but this seems nasty. @Biophysical?

Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) (35)
Push the Limit (3)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
First Order Vanguard (2)

Patrol Leader (40)
Rebel Captive (3)
Gunner (5)
Darth Vader (3)
Ion Bombs (2)

Total: 100

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