I have not seen anyone playing or talking about this ship. What gives? Btw. I don’t have one. Yet

The real Scum B-wing? (The Mist Hunter never held a candle to the title). Speaking of which has anyone seen B-wings lately.

Okay so sarcasm aside, For some reason FFG likes to use scum as its guinea pigs and they come with all the interesting mechanics. Sometimes they fall flat, and at others they create a monster. That is no truer than with firing arcs. They were the first ones with the 180 aux arc. They are also the only faction with mobile firing arcs.

As for bulls'eye firing arcs I have never been too much of a fan as with the maneuver templates being locked to increments of 45 degrees (except on set up or when you bump) I can see blind spots being formed with the arcs. As for power well we already got similar mechanics with Omega Leader, Hot Shot Co-pilot and now jam tokens so builds that are susceptible to those will not be played in tournament for very obvious reasons.

If you don't know weather to get it or not try it out on vassal first. If you find it something you like and it works for you then good.

4 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

The real Scum B-wing? (The Mist Hunter never held a candle to the title). Speaking of which has anyone seen B-wings lately

I really miss playing Bwings. But i'm kinda bored by them.

My roommate had decent success against me with the 3 he bought. Not that I fly meta, and my lists weren’t built as specific counters, but it took several games against them to win.

7 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

The real Scum B-wing? (The Mist Hunter never held a candle to the title). Speaking of which has anyone seen B-wings lately.

Okay so sarcasm aside, For some reason FFG likes to use scum as its guinea pigs and they come with all the interesting mechanics. Sometimes they fall flat, and at others they create a monster. That is no truer than with firing arcs. They were the first ones with the 180 aux arc. They are also the only faction with mobile firing arcs.

As for bulls'eye firing arcs I have never been too much of a fan as with the maneuver templates being locked to increments of 45 degrees (except on set up or when you bump) I can see blind spots being formed with the arcs. As for power well we already got similar mechanics with Omega Leader, Hot Shot Co-pilot and now jam tokens so builds that are susceptible to those will not be played in tournament for very obvious reasons.

If you don't know weather to get it or not try it out on vassal first. If you find it something you like and it works for you then good.

My guess is scum is the guinea pig because no one is as upset when scum ships fall flat. Could you imagine the outrage if the Tie Interceptor had the bullseye arc and it failed miserably?

4 hours ago, Mackaywarrior said:

My guess is scum is the guinea pig because no one is as upset when scum ships fall flat. Could you imagine the outrage if the Tie Interceptor had the bullseye arc and it failed miserably?

Well the TIE Defender was also a guinea pig with the White K-turn but they were so afraid of it they made it 30 points and all turns but the speed 3 red. They were also the first with the red stop maneuver. So yeah Imperials have been in their experiments too. I guess they found that Gamorreans make better test subjects than Stormtroopers.

A couple have made a showing in recent regionals, such as Torani Kulda that was used in Tricity and the player had great MOV. I think it has been overshadowed by Rebel Nym + Miranda.

I shot one down a few weeks ago. Poor som'bich. . .

Just now, Darth Meanie said:

I shot one down a few weeks ago. Poor som'bich. . .

Way to go, Darth Meanie. That's like killing a unicorn.

4 minutes ago, Mackaywarrior said:

Way to go, Darth Meanie. That's like killing a unicorn.

Shoot, I got cans and cans of that stuff. . .

I've read some good reviews of them. They seem solid though unspectacular. I think that hits the mark in terms of design for this type of ship.

I remember there being a good thread or blog that had a battle report of using them.

http://meta-wing.com/ships/51?

33 squads in 23 tournaments. Also, tripple Kimos all with harpoons is deadly.

They’re more a Scum Auzituck than B-Wing imo. No Reinforce or aux arc, but the current munitions meta makes up for those somewhat. I faced 3xKimos with 3xAuz’s one time, and I died hard.

So I was playing against one earlier. They had triple PS 9 Scum, Dalan, Kavil, Fenn. I had Keyan (Opportunist + Sensor Jammer) and VI Han (Luke/HSCP). The Kimo didn't do that much (about as much as my Keyan , but I had forgotten Sensor Jammer on the first round of shooting). I mean, it's a B-Wing, but here the PS 7 guy costs 25 instead of 29 points. The shield/hull ratio is worse, but the dial is a bit better. The Bullseye arc directly impacted the game once. I Boosted Han out of it one round, then he tried to Barrel Roll his Kimo to get the bullseye arc on Keyan, and just slipped past it, then he was out of range to get a TL on Han. However, Han was in the arc, and I did take a stress after attacking him (Enforcer doesn't have a range restriction, interestingly enough).

I think that like a B-Wing, loading them is kind of a mistake. VI, Enforcer, maybe a droid on Dalan Oberos is probably enough. At that point, it becomes an OK cheap ace, but nothing exceptional.

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On the other hand, Deadeye, Overclocked R4, Concussion Missiles, Extra Munitions, Contraband Cybernetics, and Guidance Chips is a 33 point Cartel Executioner. It can fire a Deadeye shot, get back focus with OCR4, turn a blank to a hit, GC a crit, then pull a K-Turn next turn and do the same thing again. I think such a list probably gets mauled by most stuff in the game, but it's nifty on paper.

Travis Foss made top 4 in the Onyx Squadron Summer Advanced SLAM this weekend (with Nym and Jostero). He was on stream at least once that I saw.

I like the ship. It's not overpowered, but if you keep it cheap, it can do some work. I had fun with 2 Brutes with Harpoons and 2 PS1 Vipers with MkII and Autothrusters against my son this weekend. They don't live long, but they sure attract attention and are not too expensive when one of them blows up. Timewalk Asajj got me in the end though!

The issue is simple:

Nu Squadron Pilot (18)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)

Total: 22

Cartel Brute (22)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)

Total: 26

Squadron with one just won regional in Denver.

Thweek/Mk2/Autothrusters
Inaldra/Crackshot/Ion Cannon/Heavy Scyk/Pulsed Ray Shield
Cartel Brute/Long Range Scanners
Karthakk Pirate/Tactician/Long Range Scanners

A squadron mate has a hideous hideous list with one in. I expect him to do well at the System Open!

So what we can take from this topic then is that @Fuzzywookie needs to stop phrasing questions as statements?

4 hours ago, SEApocalypse said:

The issue is simple:

Nu Squadron Pilot (18)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)

Total: 22

Cartel Brute (22)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)

Total: 26

Though I suppose +1 PS, +1 Base Attack, a Illicit & Salvaged Astromech & Bulls eye is worth 4 points ? ( I don't count the extra HP as the Gunboat has 2 Agi ) Gunboat does have the better dial and with title.....

You've not seen them?

I believe they're actually doing pretty well as Harpoon carriers. There '24Fenn' list with Dalan/Torani/Fenn is a thing.

10 minutes ago, Vordyn said:

Though I suppose +1 PS, +1 Base Attack, a Illicit & Salvaged Astromech & Bulls eye is worth 4 points ? ( I don't count the extra HP as the Gunboat has 2 Agi ) Gunboat does have the better dial and with title.....

The Kimogila does have a K-turn, however. The Gunboat's ability to turn around it tied to their action bar.

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

So what we can take from this topic then is that @Fuzzywookie needs to stop phrasing questions as statements?

Be careful, he might leave for months if you say something like that!

My local meta is dominated by B-Wings. Ibstibam (or whatever his name is) or Keyan with Maul or Sabine, AS or TS, Autoblaster or Linked.

After I finish out my Imperial collection (just need the TIE Advanced and TIE Bomber), I'll probably get some Rebel **** (Ghost, Sabine's TIE, K-Wing, Phantom II, Rebel Aces, A-Wing, B-Wing, HWK-290, Outrider if I can find one) , B-Wings included.