Heavy Ion Emplacements, Assault Concussion Missiles, and Fire-Control Teams: Is this combo viable, or is it doomed with the double up principle like with APT/XX-9?

No, it works. I mean, you still have to proc a crit of each color, but it works. And it will be an absolutely crushing opener, when it happens. D:

Remember those shields you had? About those...

I gave this some thought earlier. Yes, rules-wise it works and would be absolutely murderous. But once per turn only, as HIEs are exhaust-to-use unlike ACMs. And without OE, the chances of rolling both crits are rather small. Only Screed would make this semi-reliable, which (together with the possibility of pulling this off with a side-arc) effectively narrows the platform down to a Kuat.

Best case scenario (double arc) is 1xHIE and 2x ACM procs, for a total of 7 unbraceable damage on top of whatever you roll.

So... yes, technically possible but expensive, unreliable, and needs a lot of setup.

18 minutes ago, DiabloAzul said:

I gave this some thought earlier. Yes, rules-wise it works and would be absolutely murderous. But once per turn only, as HIEs are exhaust-to-use unlike ACMs.

FCT is exhaust to use anyway

18 minutes ago, DiabloAzul said:

And without OE, the chances of rolling both crits are rather small. Only Screed would make this semi-reliable, which (together with the possibility of pulling this off with a side-arc) effectively narrows the platform down to a Kuat.

You forget Vader. Same ship though

18 minutes ago, DiabloAzul said:

Best case scenario (double arc) is 1xHIE and 2x ACM procs, for a total of 7 unbraceable damage on top of whatever you roll.

You make 7 damage sound like a bad thing...

18 minutes ago, DiabloAzul said:

So... yes, technically possible but expensive, unreliable, and needs a lot of setup.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

FCT is exhaust to use anyway

Good point!

Just now, Ginkapo said:

You forget Vader. Same ship though

I didn't forget him - he's just not going to be much help when you're rolling a single blue die (side arc).

1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:

You make 7 damage sound like a bad thing...

Not at all - it's absolutely brutal !

44 minutes ago, DiabloAzul said:

Not at all - it's absolutely brutal !

Falls into the Avenger Boarding Troopers trap though, why overkill something by 5000% percent?

We all want the MC75 with Sato to be able to do the double crit, but it will be tough to pull of. Toryn nearby will help on the blue, and maybe Raymus is a necessity as well. Makes it a bit more likely.

And on a similar subject, HIE and XX9's could go on a cymooon or ISD 2 without any bother... though no gunny teams, so no.

9 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

We all want the MC75 with Sato to be able to do the double crit, but it will be tough to pull of.

Initially thought the twins would make this work.

Whose idea was it to put them in the weapons slot?? D:

2 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Initially thought the twins would make this work.

Whose idea was it to put them in the weapons slot?? D:

Someone was certainly reluctant to put them in the Officer slot and boost Ackbar MC80Hs for sure...

7 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

Someone was certainly reluctant to put them in the Officer slot and boost Ackbar MC80Hs for sure...

Sounds legit

devastator for extra blues... also be sure to resolve ions first then acm... if you do the reverse you may miss damage

but yea sounds fun... hate having no gungan teams but you can take advanced gungans now so yeah, sweet!

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 400/400

Commander: Darth Vader

Assault Objective: Advanced Gunnery
Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

[ flagship ] Imperial Star Destroyer Kuat Refit (112 points)
- Darth Vader ( 36 points)
- Devastator ( 10 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Fire-Control Team ( 2 points)
- Quad Laser Turrets ( 5 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- Heavy Ion Emplacements ( 9 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 194 total ship cost

Gladiator II-Class Star Destroyer (62 points)
- Demolisher ( 10 points)
- Projection Experts ( 6 points)
= 78 total ship cost

Gladiator II-Class Star Destroyer (62 points)
- Taskmaster Grint ( 5 points)
- Projection Experts ( 6 points)
= 73 total ship cost

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
- Repair Crews ( 4 points)
= 27 total ship cost

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
- Hondo Ohnaka ( 2 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 27 total ship cost

2 hours ago, SkyCake said:

hate having no gungan teams

Haha what a silly mistake!

2 hours ago, SkyCake said:

you can take advanced gungans now

Waaaaiiit a minute...

Not only does that combo work, I think it's potent enough to be worth the gamble on an MC75. Chances are good that at least ONE of those tasty critical effects will trigger from each attack, and the chances of triggering both from the front isn't THAT unlikely, especially if Toryn Farr (a common sight in Rebel Fleets) is nearby to help massage those 2 blues.... besides, even if you cannot trigger both the special crits, you can always use the Standard Critical effect (it will not apply if you aren't dealing any cards, but the option IS there) as your second crit with a single success of either blue or black crit.