6 hours ago, ForceSensitive said:

Hunchback v3 /B (400/400)
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MC80 Assault Cruiser (114 + 68)
+ Admiral Ackbar (38)
+ Electronic Countermeasures (7)
+ Leading Shots (4)
+ Engine Techs (8)
+ XI7 Turbolasers (6)
+ Defiance (5)
MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 17)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ External Racks (3)
+ Enhanced Armament (10)
MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 17)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ External Racks (3)
+ Enhanced Armament (10)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 + 2)
+ Comms Net (2)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 + 2)
+ Comms Net (2)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18)

I like this list a lot!

2 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

I like this list a lot!

Yup. Ackbar mc30s. You would like that!

4 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Yup. Ackbar mc30s. You would like that!

I would of course make changes if I were running it, but it's a good list Bront.

6 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

I would of course make changes if I were running it, but it's a good list Bront.

I hear ya. Sensor teams would fit in like a dream. Opportunity missed.

Aye its a good list, and me and Ard are now just winding each other up. Or at least I am.

7 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

I hear ya. Sensor teams would fit in like a dream. Opportunity missed.

Aye its a good list, and me and Ard are now just winding each other up. Or at least I am.

"Taking the piss," I think you call it over there?

1 minute ago, Ardaedhel said:

"Taking the piss," I think you call it over there?

This is, "Yanking your chain".

"Taking the piss", involves ridiculing someone, which this is not.

1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:

This is, "Yanking your chain".

"Taking the piss", involves ridiculing someone, which this is not.

Look, i aint peeing on no one, nor yanking ANYONE'S "chain" here.

8 minutes ago, geek19 said:

Look, i aint peeing on no one, nor yanking ANYONE'S "chain" here.

Just havin' a butcher's are ya? You're a right charlie!

Before I get into results, I have the list of people and i'm missing a few lists (my friend Nick, @ForceSensitive above in 10). I ALSO have an extra list from someone that I'll post at the bottom, he may have been the kid who dropped? There were 38 there, rankings list 37, so.... i'll put his there.

If/when anything gets curious, let me know about whatever you're curious and will come back and edit this. For further ease of use, objectives will be in RYB order. (potentially, before posting this, if hyp assault that i shortened to hyp a$$ gets neutered, well, thats what it is)

Results!

1) Everett Lucas 37 pts/1285 MOV

AG/Fire Lanes/Sensor Net

MC80 Assault - Ackbar - Defiance - Lando - Eng Tech - AP - RBD - XI7 - Leading Shots

GR Bright Hope Jamming Field

2x GR Repair Crews

1 GR Comms Net

1 GR

3 VCX - jan - 2 x

2) Justin Hare 32/742

AG/Con Out/Solar Corona

MC80 command - ackbar - lando - fct - ecm - lead shot - xi7 - defiance

yavaris fct flight commander (ill refer to this as yav 68 below, ill be typing it several more times)

gr toryn bcc

gr leia comms net

ten numb biggs 2x jan dutch

3) Jerry Skrzypek 29/800

(obj not listed, if desired i know jerry and can ask. Fire lanes was his yellow)

3 AF mk 2 B, all with Gunnery Team and TRC (ackbar on one of them), 2 GR comms net, tycho/shara/2 z95s

4) @dominosfleet (blurry but ill reconstruct as best as i remember - dunno obj) 29/731 Damian Glenn

isd-ii, sloane, wullf, flight controllers, ecm, sw7s, xi7s

goz comms net titus

quasar blue dice flight controllers and boosted

maarek, jendon, an advanced, zertik, saber, howlrunner, 2 ints, 2 TIEs

5) Nathan Coda 29/690

MW/Fight Amb/Sup Pos

MC30 torp with Riekan, lando, OE, APT, Admo

GR adar bcc boosted comms

gr comms net

gr toryn bright hope

yav 68

biggs, dagger, dutch, gold, jan, 2x yt1300, ten numb

6) @comatose - Mike Bohlman 29/639

http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=147803

7) @Snipafist - Eric Taylor 28/530

MW/Hyperspace/Solar Corona

Glad1 Demo SFO OE Eng Tech APT

4x Raider1 with OE and ExRax

2 Gozantis

4 TIEs

8) Nate Hammar 28/488

(objectives missing)

Glad 1 SLoane Wulff OE Eng Tech APT Insidious

Demo glad 1 OE Eng Tech APT Demo

3 naked goz

jendon vader zertik tempest maarek saber soontir valen

9) John Thomson 27/633

MW/Con Out/ Sup Pos

ISD-I Sloane Tua ECM Boarding Troop Lead Shot XI7 Avenger

3 naked goz

1 goz comms net

jendon maarek saber jumpmaster 6 Int

10) @ForceSensitive above 27/554

11) Patrick Cutter 27/533

MW/Fight Amb/Sup Pos

Sloane on quasar1 with squall and Flight Controller

Glad 1 demo Intel officer OE Eng Tech Exp Launchers

3 naked goz

vader saver lambda maarek mauler zertik jumpaster jendon

12) Ray Baxter 26/655

MW/VIP/Dang Territory

LMC80 star Gun Team Eng Tech XI7 SW&

MC30 torp Admo OE H9 APT

CR90A TRCs Madine

Gr Gr shara/tycho/2 YT2400

13) Nick Griffiths 26/640

Prec Strik/Fight Amb/Sup Pos

2x ISD-1 with flight controllers and boosted comms (one had motti)

morna/vader/stele/zertik/mauler/dengar

14) Joel Whittington MIA 25/340

Commander: Admiral Ackbar

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

[ flagship ] CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Admiral Ackbar ( 38 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points)
= 96 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points)
= 58 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points)
= 58 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points)
= 58 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
= 18 total ship cost

7 YT-2400s ( 112 points)

15) Nick Chester 24/470

MW/VIP/Dang Ter

LMC80 Battle Rieekan Eng Tech Gun Team lead shot spinal xi7 lando

MC30 APT OE

3xHH torps with TFOrgana and ExRax

GR Leia Comms Net

16) ELijah Sheridan 23/251

blockade run/ VIP/solar corona

CR90A Mon Mothma Jainas ECM TRC

CR90 TRC

2x MC30 - OE ACM H9 - one admo one foresight

2 gr comms net

shara/tycho

17) Alexander Buff 22/481

AG/COn out/solar corona

MC80 Assault Ackbar intel off ecm rbd lead shot eng tech qbt

2x cr90A TRC

gr comms net

gr comms net leia

shara 4 a-wings

18) Peter Benner 22/324

AG/Hyp assault/minefields

2x AF mk 2 b, both gunn team and rbd, one with paragron

pelta with ackbar

blount/shara/ketsu/tycho/3x a-wings/2 z95/1 x

19) John Zuidema @geek19 22/193

MW/Hyp assault/Solar Corona

Leia on a jainas light cr90aTRC

2HH Torp with TFOrg and exrax

1HH Scout TFOrg

GR Toryn BCC

Yav 68

jan 2 x/b/dagger/gold

20) Michael Dean 22/187

MW/Hyp assault/Solar COrona

glad1 Vader Montferrat OE APT Insidious

Raider 1 kallus oe exrax

glad1 demo intel off OE Eng Tech APT

raider 1 oe exrax

2 gozanti comms net

4 TIEs

21) Daniel Gruben 21/431

Targeting Beacons/Fire Lanes/Minefields

ISD-II Titus Gunnery Team /Quad Laser Turrest/ RBD Overload Pulse Quad Battery Turrets avenger

ISD-II Vader Engineering Captain Gunnery Team /QLT/RBD/Overload Pulse/Quad battery turrets

Dengar Howlrunner Lambda

22) Matthew Stagg 21/279

MW/PIC/Minefields

MC80 Star Mothma Mon Karren Lando Gunnery Team SW7

foresight oe ACM

2x CR90 B overload pulse

GR

2x A-wings 2 VCX

23) Nick Litrenta (from memory...) 21/163

VSD-II Dcaps Gunnery Team H9s leading shots Jerry

Demo Eng Tech OE ACM glad 1

comms net goz

2x raider 1 oe exrax

3 TIEs Ciena

24) Stephanie Lucas 21/108

Station Assault/COn Out/Solar Corona

Sloane on an ISD-ii avenger gunnery team RBD

Quasar1 stronghold SFO

2x gozanti comms net

dengar/mauler/saber/jendon/howl/zertik/soontir/valen

25) Collin Hambrick 20/321

MW/VIP/Salvage Run

Mc30 Torp cracken sensor team

mc30 torp admo walex exrax oe

mc30 foresight derlin exrax oe

2x HH scout TRC

a-wing/shara

26) Jack Otto 20/308

MW/COn O/solar corona

ISD-I Jerjerrod ABT Leading Shots

Glad1 OE Eng Tech APT Demo

Vic-ii Gun Team DCaps QBT Leading Shots

Gozanti comms net

ciena/valen

27) mike ploetz 20/291

MW/Hyp assault/Solar Corona

mc30 torp rieekan admo lando oe h9 ex rax

mc30 torp oe h9 ex rax SFO

cr90A jainas light trcs

cr90atrcs

cr90bsw7

gr

tycho/shara

28) ANthony Imhof (list incomplete) 20/243

Most Wanted / Hyperspace Assault / Solar Corona

VSD-II with Jerjerrod, Skilled First Officer, Gunnery Team, Disposable Capacitors, Quad Battery Turrets, and Leading Shots

VSD-II with Warlord, Gunnery Team, Disposable Capacitors, Quad Turbolaser Cannons, Leading Shots

Gozanti with Comms Net

Squads: Vader, Bossk, Zertik, Jonus, Jendon, Jumpmaster

29) Jakob Christensen 18/226

MW/Fire Lanes/Intel Sweep

ISD-II Motti ECM Leading Shots XI7s Gun Team

Arquitens Light needa TRCs

Raider 1 impetuous ex rax oe

2 goz comms net

howl mauler 4 TIEs

30) Chris Labanca 18/104

Station Assault/Jam Barrier/Salvage Run

MC80 Command Sato Boosted Comms

4xHH TFO ACM

shara/tycho/4 a wings

31) Adam Buschjost 17/257

Most Wanted/PIC/Solar Corona

Ackbar on one of these

6x CR90A TRC Medical Team Intel Officer

32) Joseph Sungail 16/80

Station Assault/Contested Outpost/Sensor Net

Vic 1 Jerjerrod Flight Controllers QBT

2x vic2 dcaps gunnery team dcaps

goz comms net

howl lambda 3 INTs

33) Chris Benner 15/97

Adv Gun/COn O/Sup Pos

Vic2 sloane gun team dcaps Leading shots

quasar 1 flight controllers boosted comms

vic 1 boarding troopers exrax

2xgoz comms net

jumpmaster 9 TIEs

34) Rob Williamson 15/86

MW/Hyp assault/Solar Corona

ISD2 Motti gunnery team ecm avenger

glad 1 oe eng tech acm demo

goz

goz comms net

bossk/zertik/jendon/maarek/valen

35) michael headly 12/31

AG/PIC/Dang Terr

ISD-I ozzel ABT

2x Raider1 Oe EXrax

naked arq

quasar2 squall

5x TIE

36) Joshua Davis 12/0

MW/Hyp assault/Solar Corona

MC30 Scout sato lando OE AP ACM XI7

hh torp dcaps apts

hh torp garels OE dcaps apts

gr75 boosted comms

neb b support salv raymus spinal arm

shara/tycho/ketsu/a-wing

37) dana butler 11/70

mw/fire lanes/sensor net

2x arq rbd enhanced

goz naked

vic2 vader tua ecm gunnery team dcaps

ciena/zertik/jonus/lambda/jumpmaster

??) Brian Schulz

MW/Con O/Sup Pos

Vic2 Sloane flight controllers dcaps qbts

3x goz comms net

glad2 kallus oe APT Demo

howl/mauler/maarek/jendon/saber/soontir/2xTIEs

@geek19, any chance you could bold the names so it's easier to visually parse?

Also Hyperspace Assault has the first three letters of the second word censored because it's a somewhat-crude term for "butt."

Oh, and thanks (of course). I know that's a lot of work right there.

11 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Just havin' a butcher's are ya? You're a right charlie!

Wimmy wham wham wozzle!

2 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

@geek19, any chance you could bold the names so it's easier to visually parse?

Also Hyperspace Assault has the first three letters of the second word censored because it's a somewhat-crude term for "butt."

Oh, and thanks (of course). I know that's a lot of work right there.

Done, addressed, and fixed what i immediately saw.

7 hours ago, ForceSensitive said:

10th, 28 points, mov???

Hunchback v3 /B (400/400)
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MC80 Assault Cruiser (114 + 68)
+ Admiral Ackbar (38)
+ Electronic Countermeasures (7)
+ Leading Shots (4)
+ Engine Techs (8)
+ XI7 Turbolasers (6)
+ Defiance (5)
MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 17)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ External Racks (3)
+ Enhanced Armament (10)
MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 17)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ External Racks (3)
+ Enhanced Armament (10)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 + 2)
+ Comms Net (2)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 + 2)
+ Comms Net (2)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18)

Advanced Gunnery, Fleet Ambush, Solar Corona

Was well more than pleased with the performance of this list for being finalized at 2am day of. With only three games of practice with the basic setup. I've been playing with the Defiance basically since the wave 6 drop, so it was familiar territory. Spent a month preparing for this tourney with a friend (he did alright too, we both went 3-1) We had, apparently accurately, anticipated that this event would be a final drift away from the squadron meta, and as the both of us are normally acehole players (sorry) we prepped as such. I know I could have done a little better, but cest la vie. I played the whole event on three hours of sleep, another three hours of driving, and gratuitous amounts of coffee graciously provided by the hosting store, (which is an awesome store with awesome folks, please support their buisness lots and lots!)and this was the first Armada tournament I actually played in, instead of just hosted, so there was a ton of 'getting the feel' to catch up on. All my opponents were cool, only had one bad game and it was entirely my stupid, tired butts fault. Only weirdness to the meta I saw? Folks kept playing Advanced Gunnery into Dreadnought MC80 builds all day. Like it was absolutely insanity. We joked last day of practice while discussing objectives that we had to take it, but laughed it off as after months of experience with it surely no one would ever take it and let us 'live the dream' that objective is. Round one guy actually changed his mind from my OK objective, Corona, to gunnery. I rightly 10-1 got the game after scuttling his Avenger. A later round, against a Sloan fleet I was given first, and he had gunnery in his pool, I didn't even read the others. Tabled that player turn four. Only to hear that all the other Defiance builds were also getting to play Gunnery games... I'm speechless. Absolutely insanity. Weirdest result I could have imagined.

1 hour ago, Ardaedhel said:

I like this list a lot!

I played against this list in round 4 with a Madine Liberty list. it's a strong list, and it was well flown. I took first player and Solar Corona as the safest objective choice. Fleet ambush is often maligned as an objective, but I didn't have a squadron alpha and I would have needed 7 activations to last/first. With only 5, I'd have to weather Ackbar broadsides from both the MC-80 and MC-30 before I got to respond, and my likely escape vector would have just put me into the other arc of Defiance. In retrospect, taking Fleet Ambush and deploying very conservatively might have been a better choice, because the fully disadvantaged deployment made it impossible to get my ships into the fight without running head long into 3 Ackbar broadsides (I tried that in game one and nearly got tabled by @Church14). In the end, after 6 rounds of tense maneuvering, the only casualty was the flotilla that I used to block the approach of an MC-30, but it was a really fun game.

I have to echo what everyone else has said about the event itself. I had great opponents for all four matches. The staff and TO were great; it was well organized, and they provided food. What more can you ask for?

@geek19, thanks for collecting and typing this up. I appreciate it.

@ArdaedhelSwap out the enhanced armaments for literally anything else. They were cute, they were good on one out of four games, they sorta did what they were supposed to in terms of changing how people navigate around them, but are other wise completely useless. Like, H9s would have been better even. Then dive both 30s into attack range on the same turn in one target. I completely halved a MC80 in one shot. It worked really well. Space shotguns FTW.

@BackgildBRO! Thanks for the compliment! I woke up the next day to realize if we had played that last turn, there was a firing solution that MAYBE I could have KOed your liberty for a much bigger win. But that clutch last second blinded gunners when that lone upgraded flotilla was dead in your sights, which would have flipped that game by TWO points, OMG the insanity. Very satisfied with the game and the result. Nice to see you in the forums.

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2) Justin Hare 32/742

AG/Con Out/Solar Corona

MC80 command - ackbar - lando - fct - ecm - lead shot - xi7 - defiance

yavaris fct flight commander (ill refer to this as yav 68 below, ill be typing it several more times)

gr toryn bcc

gr leia comms net

ten numb biggs 2x jan dutch

I'm a bit of a noob so could someone please explain to me how the above list works? It looks like a weird combination. Ackbar and Yavaris? FCT on the Defiance? Maybe I'm too inexperienced to appreciate its genius?

@ForceSensitive You're right, we got caught up in the craziness of that blinded gunners draw. I think that with Madine I could have turned hard enough to deny the side arc (hidden my side arc, not avoided yours), but I would have to have avoided your flotillas, and I don't remember the board state well enough to be certain. If I could have pulled it off, it would have taken spectacular roll, especially into the corona, to kill it. If I couldn't hide my side, I think it would have still taken three accuracies and 7 damage to kill it, again into the corona. Still a difficult roll, but not impossible for Defiance. If I could have stayed at red range, the rolls required become even more improbable.

I think it's likely the liberty lived, but I really wish we'd played it out so we knew for sure.

Edit:

After giving it a little more thought, your maneuver might have carried you forward far enough that I could have either slowed down or used the flotilla as a break to stay out of range completely. Ramming the flotilla (maybe twice) was certainly part of the plan until blinded gunners showed up. Again, we should have moved the ships. If I'm going to lose, I want to lose by the right amount.

@Backgild way I saw it was this. I had to finish the maneuver step from my lucky shot, I had a nav token, so drop speed, speed one tick right one, and sit. Next came your turn one at top of 6. You have to choose your 30 or 80. If 80 goes, I think you get stuck at speed three, on a double ram, and sit in the debris for four damage, which bizarrely you don't care and assign to all front Shields. Then I activate and fire in to your side, because at essentially speed one for you and my only mild bank I'll still have a shot, I have to roll 8 damage and 1 accuracy with xi7. I have likely mid-range but we'd had to check. So I lose one of my initial 4 red, 2 blue by all likelihood on the initial Corona trigger. So on 6 red, 2 blue, Defiance, and a added from concentrate which I'd had, losing one, a token reroll, and a leading shot, 9 total dice by the end, need all symbols and one as a accuracy specifically. Doable, but risky. BUT, if I fail... Then your 30 Rams the flotilla and the game flips to your victory by 2 mov. You have a sure way to win, I had to gamble on dice.

9 hours ago, geek19 said:

Wimmy wham wham wozzle!

Two stops short of Upney, aint ya

8 hours ago, Plessiez said:

I'm a bit of a noob so could someone please explain to me how the above list works? It looks like a weird combination. Ackbar and Yavaris? FCT on the Defiance? Maybe I'm too inexperienced to appreciate its genius?

@Church14 can explain more since it's his list, but he is clearly a pro player because he recognizes the value of more than one FCT. (I had 3. ) Seriously though, it was an interesting variation on the more typical Defiance-centered fleets running around at the tournament. The squads are primarily there as anti-squadron, and he came out ahead on that in our game because as 1st player he could have his Yavaris-powered Ten Numb double-tap before I could have my Ten-Numb double tap. Neither one of us was keen on a direct engagement of our squadrons though, and Defiance thankfully is just as slow as two Peltas.

10 hours ago, Plessiez said:

I'm a bit of a noob so could someone please explain to me how the above list works? It looks like a weird combination. Ackbar and Yavaris? FCT on the Defiance? Maybe I'm too inexperienced to appreciate its genius?

1 hour ago, comatose said:

@Church14 can explain more since it's his list, but he is clearly a pro player because he recognizes the value of more than one FCT. (I had 3. ) Seriously though, it was an interesting variation on the more typical Defiance-centered fleets running around at the tournament. The squads are primarily there as anti-squadron, and he came out ahead on that in our game because as 1st player he could have his Yavaris-powered Ten Numb double-tap before I could have my Ten-Numb double tap. Neither one of us was keen on a direct engagement of our squadrons though, and Defiance thankfully is just as slow as two Peltas.

I’m going to write something up later for the full story with where the fleet came from and where it will go, but the brief explanation is:

1) I don’t like running empty flotillas or padding activations. Everything in my fleet has to be doing more than filling activations. If possible everything does two tasks. A very Rebel Fleet (and ISD) mindset. Imps tend to specialize.

-Transport/Toryn/BCC: Buff squads, buff flak, occasionally command squads as well

-Transport/Leia/Comms: token generation, Slicer Tools resistance, dumb command choice resistance. I can change a top dial and punt a matching token to my Home one and swap from a Navigate to a Squadron (token and dial) or Engineering (token+dial).

-Yavaris: Nothing creative. Standard Yavaris

-Defiance: Command Cruiser for points and for higher squadron value. Leading Shots, ECM, and X17 for ship combat. FCT was there to keep Ten Nunb in needed position and correct mistakes in squad positions. Lando was the AvengerBT/Demolisher one off defense.

-Commander: I considered Ackbar, Sato, Rieekan, Cracken, and Dodonna. Rieekan makes Defiance, Yavaris and a sort of Ace Ball even more reliable, but didn’t up performance directly. Sato was a neat idea, but until Wave 7 drops and would have given me HIE, I’m not bothering. Dodonna for points and bomber crits hitting home. Cracken to Preserve Yavaris and the flotillas. I settle on Ackbar because I fly the Home One all the time and have good instincts for getting both side arcs on targets.

TL;DR: I hate running AFmk2B, so I dropped some squads, the AFmk2B, and a flotilla to gain Defiance and a better Commander compared to the normal Yavaris/GH 2+3. I took Ackbar because as 1st place showed, Defiance with Ackbar is enough ship to ship firepower.

EDIT: It isn’t fair to say they were primarily an anti-squad screen. 3 Red Bombers, a Black bomber, a Blue-Black bomber, and a black non-bomber adds up against ships if BCC is around. Against comatose(?), They went full anti-squad as he brought a screen that could level my Defiance if I didn’t take them out. They did a lot of bombing after killing the 3 Sharas, 2 Tychos, 2x2400s, 2 Z95s, and one Awing from the other three matches

Ill add that I really liked seeing @Church14 ‘s list. It’s got a good mix of direct combat and squads and looks like it would be a lot of fun to play.

On 1/21/2018 at 12:02 AM, AdmiralYor said:

The garbage will do. I think I told every opponent that I don't like the list, but it can win when it is allowed to.

In all seriousness, it was a fun and well run tournament. Thanks to @CaribbeanNinja and Justin J for the games and advice at the MS regional

I actually got outbid by one point in two of the games, was given second both times. So apparently, I didn't have enough bid.

Would you be so kind as to post the list?

Nvm, I see it.

19 minutes ago, Vergilius said:

Ill add that I really liked seeing @Church14 ‘s list. It’s got a good mix of direct combat and squads and looks like it would be a lot of fun to play.

I like that he took a neb with ackbar. A man of culture, that church.