Heavy squad squad?

By FourDogsInaHorseSuit, in Star Wars: Legion

So I've read you can only have two heavy units. Does that mean squads or units. Like in 40k you can have 3 heavy support choices, but each of those choices could be a squad of1-3 tanks. Is this how it is in Legion?

a unit= a squad in this game

I think it could be a unit with multiple minis. The Speeder Bikes are a support unit but come with 2 minis. 1 commander and 1 other. But the AT-RT is a single mini that makes up the unit.

I doubt there will be a "squad" of tanks which make up a single heavy unit since each mini adds its attack dice to the pool. Might make them really powerful.

57 minutes ago, Hidatom said:

a unit= a squad in this game

I don't think this can be true because we know infantry units come in squads.

Edited by FourDogsInaHorseSuit
43 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:

I think it could be a unit with multiple minis. The Speeder Bikes are a support unit but come with 2 minis. 1 commander and 1 other. But the AT-RT is a single mini that makes up the unit.

I doubt there will be a "squad" of tanks which make up a single heavy unit since each mini adds its attack dice to the pool. Might make them really powerful.

^ this.

Legion has an army structure similar to the basic force org chart in 40k.

1-2 commander

0-3 special forces

3-6 troops

0-3 support

0-2 heavy

At this stage, the revealed heavy choices (atst and t47) are a single model.

Edited by Ralgon
15 minutes ago, FourDogsInaHorseSuit said:

I don't think this can be true because we know infantry units come in squads.

...yes they do...one unit of Infantry comes in one squad...

The word "squad", as far as I know, isn't used in Legion. You have units, that fit into 1 of 5 categories. And you have minis. The number of minis in a unit varries.

I also cant imagine a Heavy unit that contains more than 1 mini. Heavies, so far, consist of the biggest and the most powerful minis. And the carry a point cost equal to 25% of your army, 50% if you bring 2.

The movement article shows that the leader moves using the tool and the other six minis with him move around him. So the squad there was seven units.

I think this is just a confusion of verbage or word use. In that article, it shows 7 minis in one unit. The unit is the whole group. The mini is the individual plastic piece.

my answer was exactly correct.
a "squad" = a unit
a "unit" of AT-ST is ONE AT-ST.

Edited by Hidatom

Basic squads plus the "extra" figures you can add boost 5 to 7

Still skeptical on the 7 man cap given the card icons as we know them, but meh.....

1 hour ago, Nihm said:

Basic squads plus the "extra" figures you can add boost 5 to 7

The trooper units we have now can only go up to six minis.

3 minutes ago, Vandallorian said:

The trooper units we have now can only go up to six minis.

There's argument over this point because some of the previews have displayed 7 man squads.

The trooper unit card images we have don't support enough upgrade slots to do it though.

Edited by Ralgon
10 hours ago, Ralgon said:

There's argument over this point because some of the previews have displayed 7 man squads.

The trooper unit card images we have don't support enough upgrade slots to do it though.

I believe what you are referring to are images of the minis that come in the unit pack. The Storm trooper unit/expansion has 7 minis, but the unit/squad can have a maximum number of 6. This is because two of the upgrade minis both are for the same upgrade slot on the commander card to allow you to have options.

  • Unit commander - 1
  • generic minis - 4
  • specialized upgrade mini - select 1 out of 2 options

Speeder Bikes are a vehicle squad consisting of two models. They could do it with bigger vehicles if they wanted to, although it most likely won't happen just because of points / scale reasons.

The number on the unit card states the number of models in the unit, one of which is always the squad leader. Troopers have 4, Speeder bikes have 2.

I think that an easier way to think about it might be:

A "unit" is one deployment card.

A "model" is a single base.

A "squad" is another term for a unit consisting of multiple infantry models.

The force organization chart indicates how many of each kind of deployment card your army may contain. Each deployment card tells you how many models to deploy for that unit.

They show 7 to display the contents of the box, @HaranHaste is correct with the break down.

1 hour ago, HaranHaste said:

I believe what you are referring to are images of the minis that come in the unit pack. The Storm trooper unit/expansion has 7 minis, but the unit/squad can have a maximum number of 6.

You are correct with your breakdown. However, if you look at the Orders from High Comnand preview article, the first example shows a unit of 7 stormtroopers.

I think it's just an oversight in the mad dash to get graphics together. But some people are taking it as proof of the possibility that we'll get unit corps units with two specialist upgrades in the card.

I also think the max number of models per unit is six, but it's not just pictures that showcase the contents of the box. You have preview articles like this one https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/12/15/boots-on-the-ground/ where the pictures show units consisting of seven models. And with these things out there, I can understand the confusion.

EDIT: Ha^^ @Lickintoad was a little bit faster

Edited by Sunber

To be fair, the preview articles are not always the best source for rules, as I'd imagine they are frequently written while rules are still in development, or the writer has been exposed to multiple iterations of the same unit/card/rule and is having trouble keeping them straight. I know I will sometimes conflagrate rules from different editions of D&D, I'd imagine it's much worse for people that are playtesting!

Rules mistakes in the preview articles is an honored tradition which FFG respects without fail ;)

2 hours ago, costi said:

Rules mistakes in the preview articles is an honored tradition which FFG respects without fail ;)

Some of us know this, some don't or choose to ignore it ;)