Genius + TS Doesn't Work Together Anymore. Maybe.

By Boba Rick, in X-Wing

It's true, all of it.

Well, maybe.

Check the FB page for FFG Regional Tournaments, they just said it.

Edited by Boba Rick

Got a link? There's nothing on FFG's Organized Play page.

That is the one ruling for the one regional at the FFG Event Center on that one day, January 27. It is not an FAQ, it is not binding on other tournaments, and does not come from OP.

Link?

Just now, Clutterbuck said:

That is the one ruling for the one regional at the FFG Event Center on that one day, January 27. It is not an FAQ, it is not binding on other tournaments, and does not come from OP.

It's not an FAQ, but it came straight from FFG. It's not like Chicago.

if it's what I think it is, then I have to say the justification given is utter ****

the argument given is that Simulator and Genius both replace the normal bomb drop and therefore cannot be stacked. This is just plain wrong

"Genius" has no "instead of" text like Simulator does

Sim:

"You may launch bombs using the 5 Straight template instead of dropping them. You cannot launch bombs with the "ACTION:" header in this way. "

Genius:
After you reveal and execute a maneuver, if you did not overlap a ship, you may discard one of your equipped Bomb Upgrade cards without the "Action:" header to drop the corresponding bomb token.


The point:

genius doesn't "Replace" the normal bomb drop. you just can't drop two bombs in the same turn

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Just now, Boba Rick said:

It's not an FAQ, but it came straight from FFG. It's not like Chicago.

It came from the guy that runs events at the event center, not from the people who make official FAQ level rulings. The claim you make in the title is spurious, unless you just mean in Roseville on January 27.

Yep. In the comments on the ruling, he even explicitly notes that "This is my ruling for the Regional. I reserve the right to revisit going forward, but I want some clarity for the folks going in." He also repeatedly states that it is only the ruling for the Regional at the FFG Events Center when people ask if this is an official FFG stance.

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Just now, PhantomFO said:

Yep. In the comments on the ruling, he even explicitly notes that "This is my ruling for the Regional. I reserve the right to revisit going forward, but I want some clarity for the folks going in." He also repeatedly states that it is only the ruling for the Regional at the FFG Events Center.

So expect the cancer everywhere else.... :wacko:

Just now, Boba Rick said:

It's not an FAQ, but it came straight from FFG. It's not like Chicago.

No, it came from the Mashall of the event. When confronted with evidence that RAW works to the contrary, he basically admitted that this is his opinion and he "reserves the right to revisit going forward".

Just another activist judge that is actually adding to the problem rather than helping it.

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10 minutes ago, Clutterbuck said:

It came from the guy that runs events at the event center, not from the people who make official FAQ level rulings. The claim you make in the title is spurious, unless you just mean in Roseville on January 27.

Okay, my bad. I edited the title, lol.

Wow, hahahahaha.... seriously, if at the FFG games center they rule it one way and then rule it another way later, THAT won't cause any problems or angry peeps at all!

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1 minute ago, Tvboy said:

No, it came from the Mashall of the event. When confronted with evidence that RAW works to the contrary, he basically admitted that this is his opinion and he "reserves the right to revisit going forward".

Just another activist judge that is actually adding to the problem rather than helping it.

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As long as he's being open about this in advance, giving players 10 days to plan, I'm all for it. TS-Genius Nym is a terrible combo that is bad for the game.

3 minutes ago, Tvboy said:

No, it came from the Mashall of the event. When confronted with evidence that RAW works to the contrary, he basically admitted that this is his opinion and he "reserves the right to revisit going forward".

Just another activist judge that is actually adding to the problem rather than helping it.

No, he isn't an activist judge. He is making the correct ruling. People abusing broken OP combos are the problem.

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1 minute ago, Rexler Brath said:

No, he isn't an activist judge. He is making the correct ruling. People abusing broken OP combos are the problem.

That's the RAI vs RAW argument, and RAW wins out.

Just now, Boba Rick said:

That's the RAI vs RAW argument, and RAW wins out.

What are those acronyms?

Rule as intended

Rule as written

Alot of RAI stances are what players feel the intention was though, and get found out as wrong when the devs clarify the rule.

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Just now, Rexler Brath said:

What are those acronyms?

Ricks Are Incredible versus Ricks Are Wowtastic.

Wowtastic wins out every time.

These one-of rulings that go against the text written on the cards are nice for the people playing in that one tournament, but they may have the effect of diluting tournament data that FFG uses to determine if something is actually a problem or just scrubs overreacting on the forums and make Nym/Miranda not look as bad as it is and make it take longer for FFG to decide it's enough of a problem to take somebody away from their Destiny or Legion and finally write an FAQ.

These maverick rulings that clearly go against what everyone is doing also significantly adds to player confusion and wreaks havoc on player confidence in future events. 10 days notice is not a lot of time to playtest for a completely different format.

Can anybody explain what he means with the Harpoon Condition and TLT. Does TLT trigger the effect or not?

Just now, Tvboy said:

These one-of rulings that go against the text written on the cards are nice for the people playing in that one tournament, but they may have the effect of diluting tournament data that FFG uses to determine if something is actually a problem or just scrubs overreacting on the forums and make Nym/ Miranda not look as bad as it is and make it take longer for FFG to decide it's enough of a problem to take somebody away from their Destiny or Legion and finally write an FAQ.

These maverick rulings that clearly go against what everyone is doing also significantly adds to player confusion and wreaks havoc on player confidence in future events. 10 days notice is not a lot of time to playtest for a completely different format.

Right, FFG took how long to 'fix' jumpmasters? I don't think the community should wait for FFG to FAQ broken ships or broken cards. FFG has proven they take TOO long to fix. This causes the meta to go to crap and people leave x-wing.

1 minute ago, Tvboy said:

These one-of rulings that go against the text written on the cards are nice for the people playing in that one tournament, but they may have the effect of diluting tournament data that FFG uses to determine if something is actually a problem or just scrubs overreacting on the forums and make Nym/Miranda not look as bad as it is and make it take longer for FFG to decide it's enough of a problem to take somebody away from their Destiny or Legion and finally write an FAQ.

These maverick rulings that clearly go against what everyone is doing also significantly adds to player confusion and wreaks havoc on player confidence in future events. 10 days notice is not a lot of time to playtest for a completely different format.

Maverick ruling are one thing, maverick rulings in FFG's own game center is another!

1 minute ago, s1ickrick said:

Can anybody explain what he means with the Harpoon Condition and TLT. Does TLT trigger the effect or not?

As I am reading it, yes. But only once. So on your first tlt shot if there is an uncanceled crit, harpooned resolves. After harpoon resolves the second shot may occur.

1 minute ago, s1ickrick said:

Can anybody explain what he means with the Harpoon Condition and TLT. Does TLT trigger the effect or not?

Unfortunately, yes TLTs trigger the effect. The judge has ruled that it cannot trigger the effect twice though. So if the first TLT triggers it, the card goes off between shots 1 and shots 2.

I personally think TLTs should NOT trigger the condition. It doesn't make sense and I don't think its what is intended.

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