Solo Falcon. Seriously why has no one said anything?

By Grand Admiral Buford, in X-Wing

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I hope it ends up being like this.

5 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

You really are new around here.

What is that supposed to mean?

Based on the Lego image, this version of the Falcon does not have the quad lasers. Outer Rim Smugglers people! We'll finally get the ORS buff that everyone has been begging for since wave 2!

The rumours surrounding the movie don't invoke much confidence, but regardless of Ehrenreichs performance, Woody Harrelson, Donald Glover and Ron Howard are all brilliant. There is hope :P

As far as this version of the falcon goes, I hate it. It must be modified as we know from the prequels the standard YT1300 has the forked tines for moving cargo containers. They keep referring to this version as 'the kessel run' falcon but the story we know states that Han didnt make the Kessel Run record until after he had made all the modifications to the shields and hyper drive. This to me shows that Disney do not care for the old story at all, and have likely written something different.

For XWM and its place as a third falcon expansion who knows what they'll do. I personally don't think it'll fall into Scum, simply because even pre-alliance, Han would have been at odds with 90% of the current scum roster as they're almost all bounty hunters, a lot of the time working under imperial contract. Han messing up imperial plans with his spice smuggling out of kessel makes me still think it would be rebel if it ended up in the game, but who knows. Until the movie is out its all speculative, this new version of the falcon hasn't even actually been verified yet.

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2 minutes ago, BVRCH said:

As far as this version of the falcon goes, I hate it. It must be modified as we know from the prequels the standard YT1300 has the forked tines for moving cargo containers. They keep referring to this version as 'the kessel run' falcon but the story we know states that Han didnt make the Kessel Run record until after he had made all the modifications to the shields and hyper drive. This to me shows that Disney do not care for the old story at all, and have likely written something different

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Assuming FFG makes a new "Kessel Run" Falcon, how different should we expect it to be from the Outer Rim Smuggler?

Outer Rim Smuggler vs. Resistance-Sympathizer

Already, it is weaker than what we've known as a souped up version of the YT-1300:

Outside of having a new ship model, we essentially already have the pre-Han Falcon.

I can only imagine we'd have different Pilot cards for Han (PS 8?) with yet another ability (free barrel roll on green & white maneuvers, then take a stress?) And new Chewbacca and Lando crew cards.

It's possible the filled in nose section is a disposable cargo container type thingy. Someone, somewhere pointed out that it could be where Solo carries spice shipments for a certain gastropod gangster.

12 hours ago, Force Majeure said:

Whether you agree with the direction Star Wars since Disney has and will be taking, it is by no means failing. As long as it is profitable, it will be regarded as a success by the powers in charge of the franchise.

The Solo movie is still an unknown quantity, not an obvious embarrassment. The filmmakers don't owe us anything nor have to prove themselves to anyone but their stockholders. It may be a cynical way to view things, but that's what it boils down to. They're going to protect their multi-billion dollar investment and if that means they have to fire directors mid-stream or re-shoot 50% of a movie then that is what they are going to do.

The writing in the films has never been very good--it didn't have to be because it's the sum of all parts of the movies, the music, cinematography, costuming, art direction, editing, marketing, merchandising, etc. that make these movies what they are.

Just try and keep an open mind and you can find that you can enjoy Star Wars as it is, even Jar Jar.

I disagree fully. The orignal trilogy revolutionized science fiction in film, vastly improving every category of the film experience for moviegoers. no one will ever describe TLJ as a revolutionary film.

Disney bought a money farm, and while it is still producing vast money, TLJ underperformed. it is reasonable to note that we are in a quantity-over-quality era for Star Wars. that will lead to diminishing returns as fans slowly lose their excitement as each dialed in entry to the franchise lowers expectations. Much like the terminator or alien franchises, the reputation of once beloved series can fade and lose the drawing power they need to succeed. basically Bad films diminish the box office returns of their sequels.

plot fatigue is real too. you need your audience to feel like a film is new. if every film a bunch of rebels kamikaze an imperial toy and everyone dies except a few named characters, it gets stale. bigger gun/more deaths is not a story model

Still Rogue One was good, so theres some hope.

22 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

I disagree fully. The orignal trilogy revolutionized science fiction in film, vastly improving every category of the film experience for moviegoers.

Science Fantasy. The OT changed forever how we watch movies BUT it did no service to science fiction. At all.

Ok, the mouse has decided that the Falcon we grew up with is the modified version by giving us an older version that in all likelihood is the unmodified version. This is the new canon we are talking about. Just because we all know that the ANH version is still a mostly stock looking body doesn't mean diddley to the mouse. The new stock version will be seen this summer and the classic one is a heavily modified version. So says the mouse. All hail the mouse.

3 minutes ago, Grand Admiral Buford said:

Ok, the mouse has decided that the Falcon we grew up with is the modified version by giving us an older version that in all likelihood is the unmodified version. This is the new canon we are talking about. Just because we all know that the ANH version is still a mostly stock looking body doesn't mean diddley to the mouse. The new stock version will be seen this summer and the classic one is a heavily modified version. So says the mouse. All hail the mouse.

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54 minutes ago, Odanan said:

Science Fantasy. The OT changed forever how we watch movies BUT it did no service to science fiction. At all.

Even if you don't consider the OT science fiction, it did a tremendous service to science fiction in getting Sci-Fi movies funding. From Trek to Alien, a lot of Sci-Fi franchises got their movies made because of the success of Star Wars.

8 hours ago, Wookiee_Slayer said:

What is that supposed to mean?

When you've been around a while you'll see it's not you, he responds like that to everyone.

20 hours ago, Grand Admiral Buford said:

Indeed they have. Made the mistake of using the baked in search engine first. Please ignore this thread.

Indeed using the forum search is a hopeless endevour, because the whole forum software is barely functional and the search not even that. ^_^
But hey, we got new reaction emotes for more emotional attachment. ^_^

3 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

Indeed using the forum search is a hopeless endevour, because the whole forum software is barely functional and the search not even that. ^_^
But hey, we got new reaction emotes for more emotional attachment. ^_^

Best part about this thread is that even after creating a rehash post, it is up to two pages of comments, insults, arguments and hilarity with bit of useful discussion thrown in for fun.

And in case anyone thinks I am pointing them out for any of the above comments, sorry, this is just a general comment regarding my own gaff. ?:rolleyes: (yay emojis)

You know, I genuinely thought this thread was going to be a list with just one falcon on it.

Could it be done? ?

10 hours ago, Wookiee_Slayer said:

What is that supposed to mean?

Eh, Hobo hates me. Thinks I can't take differing opinions.

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7 hours ago, Grand Admiral Buford said:

Ok, the mouse has decided that the Falcon we grew up with is the modified version by giving us an older version that in all likelihood is the unmodified version. This is the new canon we are talking about. Just because we all know that the ANH version is still a mostly stock looking body doesn't mean diddley to the mouse. The new stock version will be seen this summer and the classic one is a heavily modified version. So says the mouse. All hail the mouse.

Too bad we see the Steller Envoy, the Falcon's original name, in ROTS, though I wouldn't be surprised if they just retcon that to being another YT-`1300 the same way they retconed the Tantive IV from ROTS so that it was actually the Sundered Heart due to it looking different.

22 hours ago, Vontoothskie said:

the one in the poster is the modified version. the falcon looks like normal yt1300 except for its radar dish and bigger turrets. notably the falcon gap nosed look is actually its primary design feature. its for pushing cargo containers around

Also, im guessing no one has mentioned it as the Solo film is an obvious embarassment on par with JarJar Binks, and every few weeks it sounds worse. its likely the film that will turn public opinion on the modern franchise and solidify mixed feelings f the public into bad ones.

Rogue One was great, but otherwise Disney is failing hard. the mystique of star wars universe is withering under the weight of oversaturation and terrible writing.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "failing." The only metric by which any of the Disney Star Wars movies have failed is subjective opinion. You see them as failures. Disney, on the other hand, had already recouped the 6 billion dollars they paid Lucas for the property. By every single other measurable quantity, Disney's Star Wars films have been enormously successful.

3 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Eh, Hobo hates me. Thinks I can't take differing opinions.

(Warning the most overused pun on the forum inbound)

He thinks you...

*puts on shades*

lack wit.

*strolls out*

14 hours ago, pkreynolds said:

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "failing." The only metric by which any of the Disney Star Wars movies have failed is subjective opinion. You see them as failures. Disney, on the other hand, had already recouped the 6 billion dollars they paid Lucas for the property. By every single other measurable quantity, Disney's Star Wars films have been enormously successful.

i agree its subjective, but by Disneys own metrics they underperformed. TLJ made 30% less than expected and toy sales were down for christmass.

by my metrics they failed humanity when they gutted what for many was the most beloved scifi franchise of all time. but yes failure in any context is subjective to the one passing judgement. the concept itself is a social construct

On 1/18/2018 at 10:50 AM, gamblertuba said:

Based on the Lego image, this version of the Falcon does not have the quad lasers. Outer Rim Smugglers people! We'll finally get the ORS buff that everyone has been begging for since wave 2!

I wish, but that ship isnt a yt1300.