8 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

FCS every time. Advanced Sensors PTL is nice and all, but FCS gets you mods and mods win games.

tbh I would think that blackout would prefer Adv Sens while Vi Kylo probably prefers FCS. So probably not every time.

Also as an aside, I never really understood all the Blackout - collision detector hype. Sure you ignore some crit rolls but you still get stressed or lose your action and therefore any chance at dice modification which feels pretty pointless to me. With FCS you could get a nice shot from behind the rock but next turn you potentially have no choice but fly right through the obstacle, take damage, and get stressed/or lose your action. With AdvS you can take a TL or focus as you roll up to modify dice, and then next turn swing around the rock and avoid everything, or even better, barrell roll wide and hard turn in and get another shot through the asteroid. If you have a banked focus from AO then thats potentially two modded shots from the same asteroid on consecutive turns, which is fairly hard to do and useful when the rocks are spaced far apart.

Blackout wants AS to drive up to rocks then roll out from behind them before moving.

8 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

FCS every time. Advanced Sensors PTL is nice and all, but FCS gets you mods and mods win games.

Not getting shot is better than having a TL for your shots. Especially when you can get a reroll from the title.

9 minutes ago, Gibbilo said:

tbh I would think that blackout would prefer Adv Sens while Vi Kylo probably prefers FCS. So probably not every time.

Also as an aside, I never really understood all the Blackout - collision detector hype. Sure you ignore some crit rolls but you still get stressed or lose your action and therefore any chance at dice modification which feels pretty pointless to me. With FCS you could get a nice shot from behind the rock but next turn you potentially have no choice but fly right through the obstacle, take damage, and get stressed/or lose your action. With AdvS you can take a TL or focus as you roll up to modify dice, and then next turn swing around the rock and avoid everything, or even better, barrell roll wide and hard turn in and get another shot through the asteroid. If you have a banked focus from AO then thats potentially two modded shots from the same asteroid on consecutive turns, which is fairly hard to do and useful when the rocks are spaced far apart.

Kylo prefers ptl and advanced sensors

Woah. Totally came in here expecting OP to mention Sensor Jammer, not Accuracy corrector.

Seriously, if you haven’t given Sensor Jammer a go, at least give it a run. Probably strictly worse than Adv Sensor, but I can’t deny changing an opponents hit to a focus is one of the most refreshing feelings in the game, akin to Crack shoting off that evade to creep that crit into a ships hull.

3 hours ago, VanderLegion said:

Not getting shot is better than having a TL for your shots. Especially when you can get a reroll from the title.

Kylo prefers ptl and advanced sensors

TBF I think id prefer VI Kylo with Adv Sens lul

I ran Blackout PS7 (31) with Trick Shot (0), Collision Detector (o), Autothrusters (2), Title (2), and Advanced Optics (2) for a cool 37 SP. When you add in Ryad PS5 (34) in her Juked (2), Titled X7 (-2) Defender at a nice 34 SP, that leaves you with a fun ordinance boat with Lieutenant Karsabi PS5 (24) with Deadeye (1), Harpoon Missiles (4), and Long Range Scanners (0) for a solid 29; bringing this fun pint list at a super-fine 100 points.

Great, probably not, it has no Regen or TLT....fun? Yep!!

14 hours ago, viedit said:

SF's are still very vulnerable to TLT. Autothrusters are a life saver vs them. If you are trying to hunt down Miranda or a pancake I'd much rather have a Silencer.

If Pancakes are Shadowcasters, i thought that thrustors didn't work with mobile arcs (unless at range3, like fixed arcs...)

Am I wrong? I'm almost sure i've read it on this very forum.

But on the topic, i really think they have a niche. People who uses Deltas X7 or Deltas TIE/D, for sure can find value on the PS4 generic with FCS+AO+AT.

14 hours ago, Biophysical said:

Even with FCS, the maneuverability of the Silencers gives it a huge boost over the SF, and then there's actual Boost, and Autothrusters, and true AGI3.

A Zeta Specialist with Optics, FCS, and Frame is 29. 3 points for a point of PS, dial, boost, autos, and true AGI3 seems like a total no-brainer unless you really love the rear arc.

They are terrific at 32 points.

Yup. I've made the comparison with Delta TIE Defenders. But I think, your comparison is more on point.

Pancakes are fat pwts.