Twilight 2000/2013 campaign

By langdolin, in Genesys

Thinking this might be a good system to run one. Anyone else doing similar campaigns? The character creation looks much easier then the original system.

Nope, but I am working on translating 2300AD.

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Have not played that game in a long time.

Unable to look at what you have so for. Think it's a broken link.

As I said... I don't think I can share it on a website for copyright reasons. I can send it to you personally though, I think. PM me your email address.

Due to copyright and fair use policy, I cannot (should not) share what I have made.

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Be careful with the 2300AD stuff please. There is a current game being produced under Mongoose-Traveller by Colin Dunn, who currently has the rights. He's a decent guy (I helped a bit on the core book's character generation chapter). I would hate for all of his work to bring 2300AD back from the ashes to have less of a pay off for him if a free publication gained traffic. He's living the dream of being a gamer while actually making money from his hobby. :)

I am not going to distribute this anywhere online. I made it almost exclusively for my own group, but have been sharing my conversion with others personally over email. Surely that is not illegal or unethical?

Though I admit that I am REALLY unclear when it comes to copyright laws.

I think you are fine for personal use and sharing with friends (but I'm not a copyright expert). I was just concerned that whatever you had might somehow go public (someone you share with posts it) and thus cut into sales for the person who actually has the license for 2300 AD (which is currently producing new material).

Twilight 2000 is probably a lesser issue since I don't believe someone has published anything new for it for years (Twilight 2013 was published in 2008). 2300 AD is still being published.

I do love the original traveller 2300, I only know if one publisher who is very picky about their stuff being converted over to other systems. As other companies do not complain and as long as you do not collect money off it their system, now if there is stuff completely copy write protected, you might want to get permission and most of the time, they don't mind as long as you get permission and do not collect money for it. I mean someone just did Dark Heresy and the original company is not sueing the conversion. If you email Marc Miller personally, he might give his blessing on the conversion as there is alot of different renditions of Traveller to alot of different systems. Since he is the original creator behind the Traveller system and he is still active on Traveller.

For this idea, I would look into Converting Twilight 2000 and Traveller: The new Era as I just Don't think Anyone would complain about them being Converted to the Dice System but even maybe Emailing Marc Miller and getting his Complete Approval is always a Great thing as you can contact him through the Traveler 5th edition website. He might even giving you some of his old ideas that might work for this rendition. I really don't think he would have any problems for a conversion though.

I recommend going to the traveller website ffe and reading the fair use posting there.

PM sent; would love to see this

On 21/1/2018 at 9:54 PM, gilbur said:

For this idea, I would look into Converting Twilight 2000 and Traveller: The new Era as I just Don't think Anyone would complain about them being Converted to the Dice System but even maybe Emailing Marc Miller and getting his Complete Approval is always a Great thing as you can contact him through the Traveler 5th edition website. He might even giving you some of his old ideas that might work for this rendition. I really don't think he would have any problems for a conversion though.

"Traveller: The New Era", no matter how loathed amongst a sizable part of the (entrenched) Traveller fan base, IS a part of the Traveller Canon, so getting some sort of approval from Marc Miller should follow a similar procedure as in other Canon versions of that background.

Other than that, I have seen many ports of Traveller to other roleplaying systems (most are definitely not as extense or professional-looking as @lecudas Genesys version), so I feel maybe a disclaimer from the Traveller 5 website could suffice.

I would love for someone to resurrect T2K or any of its variants in Genesys!

But really, simply creating a "modern paramilitary" system would be the least treacherous (legally) path. The SW AOR soldier paths (and now perhaps Sapper from the Engineer line) give some good starting templates for military or mercenary character archetypes. Then layer on an array of equipment in Genesys stats - pistols, submachine guns, carbines, rifles, sniper rifles, rocket launchers.. - perhaps with a special quality to denote ammo compatibility (NATO rounds don't work in Warsaw Pact, etc). Pretty soon, you would have the tools you need to recreate a T2K "feel", or a modern mercenary / specops, "Independence Day" / "V" / "Falling Skies"... The Walking Dead... and the list goes on.

And if folks wanted to reskin any supplements or adventures from any pre-existing game, they could swap out stat blocks but still keep the "guts" of the adventure / plot intact.

Edited by Khyrith

you might get away legally by porting from the "cepheus engine" version of Traveller/Twilight which is already under OGL/SRD