Has anyone run 7 TIE Defenders and Mr. Steele?
Thoughts?
What do you run with it?
I need to figure out what to play at an upcoming regional and I don't want to do any 2+3 nonsense.
(I should also add I haven't had a proper match in many months.)
Edited by EggzavierI did back when they first came out. The sheer power is awesome, but I found that some substitutions could be made to save points and still have the power. One defender for Valen, and another for Mauler. Occasionally I'd swap another two for Jendon and Jonus, but that's personal preference.
3 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:I did back when they first came out. The sheer power is awesome, but I found that some substitutions could be made to save points and still have the power. One defender for Valen, and another for Mauler. Occasionally I'd swap another two for Jendon and Jonus, but that's personal preference.
Sounds like exactly what I had in mind, but what are you running for combat ships?
I toyed with the idea of doing a Quasar II with flight controllers and ruthless, but that seems like it might be overkill for anti-squad and not enough anti-ship hurt.
Isd2, avenger, gunnery team, boosted coms, leading shots and 4x gozantis make good carriers if you take sloane.
If you go motti then an isd1 with tua/ecm, avenger and BT and flotillas or a mix of raiders and flotillas is a solid choice.
Quasar is good if it's CHEAP, like quasar 1, boosted coms, flight controllers, expanded hangars. If its cheap you can get a combat ship and 5 activations. Not hitting those marks will mean the generics will bite it before they can contribute to the ship fight about half the time leaving you toothless.
I've been lately tinkering with a Quasar (with FC) backing up Jendon + generic shuttle + Stele + 4x Defenders. As long as everyone goes into combat bunched up a bit, that lets the Quasar activate via relay 4 of the Defenders (2 off Jendon and 2 off the generic). A Gozer in the fleet provides the last 2 activations to move up the remaining Defender and then let Jendon double-tap Stele (the lack of FC is much less problematic for this activation, as Jendon's ability cannot use FC anyway), the remaining shuttle moving up during the squadron phase. With Sloane as an Admiral, it's a squadron set that does pretty darn good anti-squadron AND anti-ship, and neither the Quasar or Gozer has to go anywhere near the battle, letting you use them as bait.
When I did it, I had an ISD, Demo, and 2 Gozers I think. I've also thought about the Quasar, and as a cheaper Flight Controller platform it's totally worth it. (My ISD I had Flight Controllers as this was pre-wave 6). The thing I've found about the using the quasar, if I'm bringing one and a load of squads, it means I'm either at 3 beefy ships, or maybe 2 and 2 smaller ones. If you are wanting for than a 4 ship fleet, you will probably have to have the quasar and 4-5 other smaller ships.
I'm experimenting with Quasar, two Glads, two Gozants, Steele and three defenders, Howl and three ties, with Sloane. Not sure about it yet....
Weird how any squadron-focused list kind of just comes back full circle to "2+3 nonsense".
42 minutes ago, TaeSWXW said:Weird how any squadron-focused list kind of just comes back full circle to "2+3 nonsense".
That has more to do with five activations being more competitive than three.
1 hour ago, TaeSWXW said:Weird how any squadron-focused list kind of just comes back full circle to "2+3 nonsense".
Well, 5 activations is on the better side of average and you can pretty fairly kit out 2 combat ships for 200 points.
:/
1 hour ago, Eggzavier said:Well, 5 activations is on the better side of average and you can pretty fairly kit out 2 combat ships for 200 points.
:/
I don't disagree with you. I just think it's funny.
Last week I was trying to come up with a good squadron list with a Quasar and an ISD and 20 minutes later I had an Avenger/Boarding Trooper list on accident. There's a reason why they're common - they're good and the result of logical decision making.
8 minutes ago, TaeSWXW said:I don't disagree with you. I just think it's funny.
Last week I was trying to come up with a good squadron list with a Quasar and an ISD and 20 minutes later I had an Avenger/Boarding Trooper list on accident. There's a reason why they're common - they're good and the result of logical decision making.
Ya, no wonder there is no room in the meta for something like an Arquitens
2 hours ago, Eggzavier said:Ya, no wonder there is no room in the meta for something like an Arquitens
Have you tried?
5 hours ago, TaeSWXW said:Weird how any squadron-focused list kind of just comes back full circle to "2+3 nonsense".
Even wierder when you consider that squads are one of the easiest ways to kill an enemy activation early in the game...
So why do they NEED 5 activations?
12 minutes ago, SkyCake said:Have you tried?
Not yet.
Hold my beer.
6 hours ago, TaeSWXW said:Weird how any squadron-focused list kind of just comes back full circle to "2+3 nonsense".
I didn't say my list was a 2+3
FWIW, I usually pair that Gozer and Quasar with a Demo and VSD. Although I've been tinkering with dropping the Gozer entirely to get a really BUFF VSD-II (they really like pairing with Gunner Teams, disposable caps, QBT, and leading shots - but with all that, you can't get the Gozer and Demo, too).
Thing is that I like going second - it means you are playing one of my squadron-focused objectives. So I refer to the Demo as my '85 pt bid for 2nd player'... :-D
12 minutes ago, xanderf said:I didn't say my list was a 2+3
FWIW, I usually pair that Gozer and Quasar with a Demo and VSD. Although I've been tinkering with dropping the Gozer entirely to get a really BUFF VSD-II (they really like pairing with Gunner Teams, disposable caps, QBT, and leading shots - but with all that, you can't get the Gozer and Demo, too).
Thing is that I like going second - it means you are playing one of my squadron-focused objectives. So I refer to the Demo as my '85 pt bid for 2nd player'... :-D
Ya I was thinking about doing a buff VSDII with Demo and 2 Gozanti.
2 x 2