So for the next three weeks I am going to try to nail down a regional list. Week one I am between 2 lists.

"Quickdraw"(36) ["Quickdraw"(29), Veteran Instincts(1), Fire Control System(2), Special Ops Training(0), Pattern Analyzer(2), Lightweight Frame(2)]

Rho Squadron Veteran(32) [Rho Squadron Veteran(21), Push The Limit(3), Advanced SLAM(2), Harpoon Missiles(4), Os-1 Arsenal Loadout(2)]

Rho Squadron Veteran(32) [Rho Squadron Veteran(21), Push The Limit(3), Advanced SLAM(2), Harpoon Missiles(4), Os-1 Arsenal Loadout(2)]

Or

Rey(55) [Rey(45), Finn(5), Millennium Falcon(1), Expertise(4)]

Rookie Pilot(22) [Rookie Pilot(21), Integrated Astromech(0), Flight-Assist Astromech(1)]

Rookie Pilot(22) [Rookie Pilot(21), Integrated Astromech(0), Flight-Assist Astromech(1)]

Which one would you fly, what would you change?

Personally, I'd go empire. Even with FAA the rookies look flimsy.

The question with the Rho vets however, becomes can you live with the slow roll? If you can you better have this ready.

For when you Slam, target lock, reload, and turn your opponent into a porcupine.

On ‎1‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 10:24 PM, Orcdruid said:

Personally, I'd go empire. Even with FAA the rookies look flimsy.

The question with the Rho vets however, becomes can you live with the slow roll? If you can you better have this ready.

For when you Slam, target lock, reload, and turn your opponent into a porcupine.

Believe it or not. I flew that second list last week against two Auzitucks and a YT2400. Rey burned pretty quick, did a lot of damage, but still burned down(bad flying on my part mostly). And the T65's won me the game.

Take Rey/Rookies, mostly because it'll be so cool to have X-Wing -X-Wings on the table.

Looking at Rey/Rookies, my only thought is to swap Expertise for VI and Kanan. I'm not sure if it's better, but it's an option worth considering. Expertise gets you a defensive focus, and the ability to TL for full mods if you won't have arc. VI/Kanan gets Pilot Skill (always useful, even if you don't have too much in particular to leverage this), and you'll be a lot stronger on any flip turns. VI could be swapped for Determination, if you're worried about I'll Show You The Dark Side from Kylo Ren (particularly crew). If you don't take Kanan, fill that 2nd crew slot with Chopper. If you're able to land a sick 3-Bank flip into a Range 1 shot, you'll really want that focus token, and it'd be worth taking a damage to get it.

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Empire is probably the "stronger" list, though. At least, it's the more "meta" list. That can be a weakness, however. Back when "everyone" flew Trip Jumpmasters, or Parattanni, or Fairship Rebels, it means you've got to be the best player at that list--the mirror match is the most important. Going for something outside the box can grant advantages. But when most folks are flying the big meta lists, it's usually because those are the better lists.

As to changes to that, I'd take Advanced Optics over Pattern Analyzer. Starting the engagement with a banked Focus is pretty sweet, and if you're able to keep one from the previous turn, you'll still sort of "have an action" after a red move. I totally get Pattern Analyzer, though. There are 6 red moves on that SF dial. It's just a personal preference that I'd rather front load my action with AdvO.

Imperials. I think your Rey drops fast without any countermeasures or engine. There are a crap-ton of Harpoons out there, Rey taking two or three is gonna cripple your list.

3 hours ago, wurms said:

Imperials. I think your Rey drops fast without any countermeasures or engine. There are a crap-ton of Harpoons out there, Rey taking two or three is gonna cripple your list.

Agreed. Poons are the missile to beat, which is also why I think we see more Poe out there, too. Rey really needs a good 60 points to make her really well.

on the imperial list, I would actually rather see deadeye and chips on the starwings Vs. PTL/slam/title. It's cheaper, and you don't need the lock. The only weakness is hot-cop. But it gives you more flexibility overall.

Agreed - if you want to fly the rebels, switch to Kanan/VI - you're gonna want Kanan. I think it definitely has potential, because I love Rookies with IA/FAA.

However, that Empire list is HELLA strong. Like, flawless.

Sorry it's taken me so long to post again. I flew the rebel list Tuesday. I added Inspiring Recruit on to Rey for some outs against Asaaj and the like.

Game 1:

Flew against double edge with 3 bombers with cluster mines and a harpoon Nu. Ended up losing losing on points at time. He took out an X wing and got half points on Rey while I took 2 bombers. I may have his list wrong, it's just what I remember. I messed up flying rey, I blocked her with an X wing while trying to flank and be aggressive,landed on an asteroid and a cluster mine for 3 damage before attacks. It really hurt.

Game 2

Against Fenn,Dalen in a star viper and bump master. I went aggressive again Lining up my X wings in the middle and Rey to the right ready to Flank. 4 straights and boost from the T65's and 4 straight from Rey. Round 2 ended up getting range 2 in arc with Rey on Fenn and was able to finish him in the next volley. Dalen and the bump master were working on the lone x wing and got him to one hull. Some careful flying and some great maneuvers on both sides made this a really fun match(as well as some good dice rolls). Ended up taking this match 56 to 0 with about 4 minutes left.

I think with some careful flying and learning to really utilize FAA this list could have some legs.

This Tuesday I will fly the Imperial list and see how it does. I have another star viper coming to me to add to my G4H and try to come up with a scum list, although I don't have a huge pool of scum ships. I mean I don't even have most wanted.

I appreciate everyone's input and hope you guys continue to do so to help me win some fancy dice!

Week 2 Here are the choice.

Viktor Hel(31) [Viktor Hel(25), Veteran Instincts(0), Engine Upgrade(3), Stealth Device(2), Autothrusters(1), Vaksai(0)]

Dalan Oberos(35) [Dalan Oberos(30), Outmaneuver(3), Autothrusters(2), Plasma Torpedoes(3), StarViper Mk. II(-3)]

Thweek(33) [Thweek(28), Virago(1), Plasma Torpedoes(3), Pulsed Ray Shield(2), Ion Discharger(2), StarViper Mk. II(-3)]

Or

"Quickdraw"(36) ["Quickdraw"(29), Veteran Instincts(1), Fire Control System(2), Special Ops Training(0), Pattern Analyzer(2), Lightweight Frame(2)]

Rho Squadron Veteran(32) [Rho Squadron Veteran(21), Push The Limit(3), Advanced SLAM(2), Harpoon Missiles(4), Os-1 Arsenal Loadout(2)]

Rho Squadron Veteran(32) [Rho Squadron Veteran(21), Push The Limit(3), Advanced SLAM(2), Harpoon Missiles(4), Os-1 Arsenal Loadout(2)]

Imperial list is the same so tear the scum list down. Dalen is in there because of what I've seen him do.

21 minutes ago, CasoPrime said:

Week 2 Here are the choice.

Viktor Hel(31) [Viktor Hel(25), Veteran Instincts(0), Engine Upgrade(3), Stealth Device(2), Autothrusters(1), Vaksai(0)]

Dalan Oberos(35) [Dalan Oberos(30), Outmaneuver(3), Autothrusters(2), Plasma Torpedoes(3), StarViper Mk. II(-3)]

Thweek(33) [Thweek(28), Virago(1), Plasma Torpedoes(3), Pulsed Ray Shield(2), Ion Discharger(2), StarViper Mk. II(-3)]

Or

"Quickdraw"(36) ["Quickdraw"(29), Veteran Instincts(1), Fire Control System(2), Special Ops Training(0), Pattern Analyzer(2), Lightweight Frame(2)]

Rho Squadron Veteran(32) [Rho Squadron Veteran(21), Push The Limit(3), Advanced SLAM(2), Harpoon Missiles(4), Os-1 Arsenal Loadout(2)]

Rho Squadron Veteran(32) [Rho Squadron Veteran(21), Push The Limit(3), Advanced SLAM(2), Harpoon Missiles(4), Os-1 Arsenal Loadout(2)]

Imperial list is the same so tear the scum list down. Dalen is in there because of what I've seen him do.

99 points is not enough for a Thweek bid, most Thweek lists have at least a 4 point maybe 5 point bid just to secure initiative. I would switch Ion discharger to FCS for a better action economy. I like the imperial list tho. Also squad total is a helpful formatting thing.

EDIT: Oh and add Auto thrusters on Thweek, an ionized Thweek is like a shark without teeth

6 minutes ago, CMDR Ytterium said:

99 points is not enough for a Thweek bid, most Thweek lists have at least a 4 point maybe 5 point bid just to secure initiative. I would switch Ion discharger to FCS for a better action economy. I like the imperial list tho. Also squad total is a helpful formatting thing.

Ah I started using a new squad builder did not realize it did not show totals. I can pull the ordinance off of Thweek as well. I still have yet to field any scum list, I thought this would be interesting.

19 hours ago, CasoPrime said:

Week 2 Here are the choice.

Viktor Hel(31) [Viktor Hel(25), Veteran Instincts(0), Engine Upgrade(3), Stealth Device(2), Autothrusters(1), Vaksai(0)]

Dalan Oberos(35) [Dalan Oberos(30), Outmaneuver(3), Autothrusters(2), Plasma Torpedoes(3), StarViper Mk. II(-3)]

Thweek(33) [Thweek(28), Virago(1), Plasma Torpedoes(3), Pulsed Ray Shield(2), Ion Discharger(2), StarViper Mk. II(-3)]

Or

"Quickdraw"(36) ["Quickdraw"(29), Veteran Instincts(1), Fire Control System(2), Special Ops Training(0), Pattern Analyzer(2), Lightweight Frame(2)]

Rho Squadron Veteran(32) [Rho Squadron Veteran(21), Push The Limit(3), Advanced SLAM(2), Harpoon Missiles(4), Os-1 Arsenal Loadout(2)]

Rho Squadron Veteran(32) [Rho Squadron Veteran(21), Push The Limit(3), Advanced SLAM(2), Harpoon Missiles(4), Os-1 Arsenal Loadout(2)]

Imperial list is the same so tear the scum list down. Dalen is in there because of what I've seen him do.

I feel like Dalan Oberos is going to bully anything low PS 6, but otherwise looks kind of weak. Maybe he's better on table than on paper, but I'd be worried. I might just run Fenn Rau with PTL/title/Autothrusters. Likewise, swapping PRS/ID for Autothrusters on Thweek seems fine, and it'd add to bid. I think I'd rather have FCS than Plasma Torpedo, too. So that'd be 4 points saved.

Maybe put Cruise on Viktor Hel? Cruise Missiles and Contraband Cybernetics is a pretty nifty combo on a Kihraxz, pull the 4 or 5k, and shoot a 5-dice missile, even if you began the turn stressed. Only costs 2 points for the whole package, too.

6 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

I feel like Dalan Oberos is going to bully anything low PS 6, but otherwise looks kind of weak. Maybe he's better on table than on paper, but I'd be worried. I might just run Fenn Rau with PTL/title/Autothrusters. Likewise, swapping PRS/ID for Autothrusters on Thweek seems fine, and it'd add to bid. I think I'd rather have FCS than Plasma Torpedo, too. So that'd be 4 points saved.

Maybe put Cruise on Viktor Hel? Cruise Missiles and Contraband Cybernetics is a pretty nifty combo on a Kihraxz, pull the 4 or 5k, and shoot a 5-dice missile, even if you began the turn stressed. Only costs 2 points for the whole package, too.

I don't have a protectorate or the M12. But how about this.

Viktor Hel(31) [Viktor Hel(25), Veteran Instincts(0), Engine Upgrade(3), Stealth Device(2), Autothrusters(1), Vaksai(0)]

Dalan Oberos(39) [Dalan Oberos(30), Advanced Sensors(3), Outmaneuver(3), Virago(1), Autothrusters(2), Plasma Torpedoes(3), StarViper Mk. II(-3)]

Thweek(27) [Thweek(28), Autothrusters(2), StarViper Mk. II(-3)]

97 points

Contraband can be proxied. Not so much with the Protectorate (although it has a nearly-identical dial to the TIE/FO).

If I were going two Starvipers, and one wasn't Thweek, I think I'd go Push the Limit. I don't know if it's good, but I read this (see below) interesting batrep article (and just saw a 2nd with the same ship list) and they sound really interesting. I'm thinking of flying a PTL Guri with FCS and Glitterstim (more for if I get blocked than anything) along side a pair of blocking Jumpmasters next casual night. It's a totally different list, but the core package (S.V.Mk.II, Virago, FCS, Glitterstim, PTL) would fit onto any SV pilot. But I'd rather boost/barrel roll than alter a maneuver. That's just me, and Dalan isn't my style.

https://suchanxwinghipster.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/battlestar-wars-galactica-so-the-fate-of-the-entire-human-race-depends-on-my-wild-guess/

https://suchanxwinghipster.wordpress.com/2018/01/14/battlestar-wars-galactica-do-that-which-you-truly-believe-to-be-right/

However, if it's where you're headed, I think Advanced Sensors on Dalan makes a lot of sense. Another nifty option for his Elite would be Stay On Target. Dalan could dial in a 1, change it to any other 1-speed (change from 1-bank left to 1-hard right), then change it to a Tallon Roll. It's nifty that he can can turn his red moves red so he can red while he reds. It's all legal; he's turning a red move into a red move, so it stays red. Compared to Outmaneuver, it'll be easier to get out of arc, but you won't necessarily be able to take as much advantage of it when you do get out of arc. I guess the other Elites I'd consider for Dalan would be VI, so he'd be up to PS 8, and Predator, since it always works, but doesn't work as hard as Outmaneuver, on turns when you can trigger Outmaneuver.

Today is the day. I may actually be flying these lists against each other tonight, as long my other star viper arrives today

I still say QD and Rhos! I think itll be more consistent than that Scum list