Does the y-wing special fall under the usual ruling in this game for "opting for 0" when its used?
(what i mean is the many cards that force an opponent to do X or Y, and he can opt for Y even if he doesnt even have Y)
i dont see a special case in the faq saying this card, for some reason, doesnt follow that ruling. So if someone uses the special and i have 0 resources anyway, it does nothing since i just opt to "lose resources" 4 times.
No, because it says "dealt or lost a combined total of 4". Emphasis on total there. You deal each damage or lose each resource individually, so say you have no resources in this situation.
Opponent resolves y wing special:
Pick to take a damage or lose resource if less than 4 total.
Choose to lose a resource.
Did you lose a resource? No, you had none in this scenario, so the counter stays at 0 here. Repeat.
So you can lose 0, you just keep losing 0 until you also do 4 damage. This card gets around the choose to lose 0 ruling.
Yeah, rather than it being 'do X or do Y, this is 'do X, but with multiple ways to satisfy X'.
I think this is the keyword rule you are referring to and Y-Wing does not use it.
CHOOSE- EITHER (p20):
If an ability uses “choose” and “either,” the player using the ability may choose either option, even if the chosen one will have no effect. Once the player has made their choice, they have to resolve as much of it as possible.
Some cards force an opponent to make a choice. The opponent can also choose either option.
So for Y-Wing you do exactly what the card says, if you discard zero resources you'll have to have dealt 4 damage.
Yup Ywing is pretty awesome:)
i see, so since it has that max option its free of that ruling.
Weird, but ok. thanks.
4 hours ago, Vineheart01 said:i see, so since it has that max option its free of that ruling.
Weird, but ok. thanks.
I think it's better put another way: Y-Wing has a different construction from those other cards, which are useless when only 1 of the choices is really an option. Y-Wing special will always be useful, because it's constructed in a way that prevents choosing the 0 option to satisfy the card. So the "Either" ruling still very much applies to the prior cards, and has no bearing on Y-Wing.