[TLJ Spoilers] Did any one notice...

By Animewarsdude, in X-Wing

That the original Star Wars cast, or more accurately the main trio, has been killed off in effectively the span of a few days to a week in the Sequel Trilogy? Han bites it in TFA, and granted that was what was going to happen considering how Harrison Ford really wanted Han to die, and then Luke dies at the end of TLJ. Leia could possibly live longer, but she will either not be mentioned in the next film, or handled with either a throw away line like Ackbar, or in the opening crawl. But effectively the original cast has been wiped out, with the remaining cast being R2 and 3PO who are relegated to about the same amount of screen time as say Ackbar or Madine in ROTJ, and Chewie who is sort of just Rey's wingman now.

As for the time span I used above, it is based upon the fact that Han dies before Starkiller base is destroyed, and Luke dies at the end of TLJ which takes place hours if not days after TFA. We know this due to how in Battlefront II, it is canon, has it where the main character from the game see the destruction of Starkiller Base and then jump to D'Qar and are given a mission and aren't even given the opportunity to land since the Resistance is so busy packing up their stuff to abandon their base. So, the question is how long it took them to pack their stuff up and get away, since we know the FO shows up before they finish at the start of TLJ. And considering that TLJ establishes that a Resistance Transport module can make the jump from one end of the galaxy to the other in less than a few hours, thanks to the 18 hour plot, and get back after spending some time in jail it isn't so far fetched that the FO which is closer could get to D'Qar shortly after they learned of the base's location.

Yup. Worst. Week. EVER.

Edit: on the bright side, Nien Nunb survived.

Edited by FTS Gecko

Luke, Han, Leia (?), Lor San Tekka, Phasma (?), New Republic, lots of deaths that week. I guess Nick Furry doesn't feel his one week was that busy anymore, since Thor, IM 2, the end of Captain America and Hulk all take place in a week in the MCU.

All the circular themes introduced by Lucas died in this movie.

Anakin got 6 movies (alive). Luke should have had the same.

18 minutes ago, Larky Bobble said:

All the circular themes introduced by Lucas died in this movie.

Anakin got 6 movies (alive). Luke should have had the same.

He does. Episodes 3 through 8.

48 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

Yup. Worst. Week. EVER.

Edit: on the bright side, Nien Nunb survived.

I'm deeming Jess Pava to have survived on the grounds that she isn't in it ;)

1 minute ago, Estarriol said:

I'm deeming Jess Pava to have survived on the grounds that she isn't in it ;)

I'm really hoping she and Snap were off on another assignment, maybe making contact with Resistance allies or some such.

Just now, SabineKey said:

I'm really hoping she and Snap were off on another assignment, maybe making contact with Resistance allies or some such.

I think Snap was in one of the transports... I didn't see him but I'm told he was.

1 minute ago, Estarriol said:

I think Snap was in one of the transports... I didn't see him but I'm told he was.

If he was, I missed it as well.

Pretty freakin' hard not to notice when a massive corporate entity assumes control of an IP and begins mowing down your favorite childhood characters in rapid succession all in the name of control and money.

Oh, you meant in on-screen story time...

Nope. Didn't notice, and no longer care. *takes a shot of saltwater*

23 hours ago, SabineKey said:

He does. Episodes 3 through 8.

He really gets 4.02 movies (Luke - for context). His appearance in eps 3 and 7 are pretty equal in length - the final scene and no more...

40 minutes ago, Larky Bobble said:

He really gets 4.02 movies (Luke - for context). His appearance in eps 3 and 7 are pretty equal in length - the final scene and no more...

Well, if you want to get nick picky, I would argue Anakin only got 4 movies. Using the story's own logic, Anakin died in episode 3 and was only truly resurrected in episode 6. And by your logic, that would be 3.01 movies, due to Anakin only really showing up for the "final scene".

I would also say Luke's importance in both episodes 3 and 7 elivate him from simply being in the final act.

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You guys forget the millions of loyal First Order members who died on Starkiller, the dreadnought, and the Supremacy (and the supporting cruisers).

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19 hours ago, SabineKey said:

I'm really hoping she and Snap were off on another assignment, maybe making contact with Resistance allies or some such.

Hey, don't forget these two:

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There's definitely some great characters from Poe Dameron comics who we still have no idea about. Looking forward to seeing what happened to all these folks.

57 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Hey, don't forget these two:

Having literally just read the comic so far yesterday, this hits close to home. I didn't realize it wasn't finished publication yet, so the last few issues have me waiting to find out.

8 hours ago, SabineKey said:

Well, if you want to get nick picky, I would argue Anakin only got 4 movies. Using the story's own logic, Anakin died in episode 3 and was only truly resurrected in episode 6. And by your logic, that would be 3.01 movies, due to Anakin only really showing up for the "final scene".

I would also say Luke's importance in both episodes 3 and 7 elivate him from simply being in the final act.

Nit picky? You give him a whole movie when he's born as a squeeling baby at the end. That's not Lucas' circularity...

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28 minutes ago, Larky Bobble said:

Nit picky? You give him a whole movie when he's born as a squeeling baby at the end. That's not Lucas' circularity...

And yet, see the effect he had on the situation. Because of him, Obi-Wan decided to go to tatooine and stayed there for the next 19 years (presumably, we'll probably see if that Obi Wan movie gets moving). His presence on the universe didn't start changing how things in the galaxy went when R2 and 3PO appeared in his life. It started at birth, which is in episode 3.

This is also discounting that there is far more to Luke's story than the main line episodes. There a number of canon comic books, books, and so on that continue to build on the character's story.

22 hours ago, Larky Bobble said:

All the circular themes introduced by Lucas died in this movie.

Anakin got 6 movies (alive). Luke should have had the same.

7 counting Rogue One

Also Anakin was portrayed by 5 different actors (David Prowse, Hayden Christiansen, James Earl Jones, Jake Lloyd, Spencer Wilding) so its easier to have him in a lot of films spanning a long time.

The old characters needed to die. They've had their saga, and its time to let the new characters come into their own in the 3rd movie. Plus they're 'getting too old for this sort of thing' (to quote obi-wan). Seeing Han back in action in TFA was great for a couple of scenes, but if you stretch it out it just becomes sad and implausible (like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull).

23 hours ago, Larky Bobble said:

All the circular themes introduced by Lucas died in this movie.

such as?

1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:

such as?

Please, don't summon the 'ring composition' demon, an abomination who babbles nonsense and devours time.

Chewie is alive. That’s all that matters.

Who knows how long that Fleet chase lasted. Heck that Canto Bait side story seemed to last for a week.

30 minutes ago, Fuzzywookie said:

Chewie is alive. That’s all that matters.

Sure he breathes, but is he... alive, does he feel anymore, does anything matter, No golden force dice for Chewie!!!

On 1/6/2018 at 4:17 PM, FTS Gecko said:

Yup. Worst. Week. EVER.

Edit: on the bright side, Nien Nunb survived.

He didn't, he got locked in a escape pod and ate himself to death.

1 hour ago, Dwing said:

Sure he breathes, but is he... alive, does he feel anymore, does anything matter, No golden force dice for Chewie!!!

Well considering Han's dead, and Luke's gone, and Leia.. well, I guess we'll find out how they write Leia out in two years.. Chewbacca's got no real reason to stick around any more, has he? It's not as though he's got a life debt to pay off to Rey at all, is it?

Maybe Chewie can finally leave these losers and go home to celebrate Life Day.