NymPoe Maniacs

By Mightybeard13, in X-Wing Squad Lists

I thought the name was good enough to warrant attempting a build. Not sure if it would be worth while but it could be fun, maybe to much ordinance on Nym, could swap some out for a better a-wing blocker (snap/crack a?)

[NymPoe manics]

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100 points

PILOTS

Captain Nym (43)
Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Veteran Instincts (1), Extra Munitions (2), Concussion Missiles (4), Autoblaster Turret (2), Bomblet Generator (3), Havoc (0), Guidance Chips (0), Trajectory Simulator (1), Salvaged Astromech (2), Genius (0)

Poe Dameron (PS9 Version) (42)
T-70 X-Wing (33), Black One (1), R5-P9 (3), Advanced Optics (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Autothrusters (2)

Prototype Pilot (15)
A-Wing (17), Chardaan Refit (-2)

Edited by Mightybeard13

or maybe this...

PILOTS

Captain Nym (39)
Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Veteran Instincts (1), Extra Munitions (2), Autoblaster Turret (2), Bomblet Generator (3), Havoc (0), Guidance Chips (0), Trajectory Simulator (1), “Genius” (0), Salvaged Astromech (2)

Poe Dameron (PS9 Version) (42)
T-70 X-Wing (33), Black One (1), R5-P9 (3), Advanced Optics (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Autothrusters (2)

Captain Rex (19)
Sabine's TIE Fighter (14), Sabine's Masterpiece (1), Munitions Failsafe (1), “Hot Shot” Blaster (3)

Edited by Mightybeard13

I'm not a huge fan of Advanced Optics and R5-P9. The strength of AdvO is that you don't need to take a focus action, and can spend your actions boosting or target locking, increasing mobility and firepower. With R5-P9, that's no longer true. If you're regenerating, you'll need to take more focus actions, and render AdvO... not quite worthless, but not used to it's potential. I'd either swap to Pattern Analyzer (so that you can take focus for R5-P9 on Red moves) or find a point for R2-D2. That could be dropping to PS 8 baseline Poe, or it could be trimming Nym down a little (or swapping the A-Wing a bit, see below). Cruise and Ion Pulse missiles are each a point cheaper than Concussion. That said, Poe is generally fine however he's built. I just don't like the combination of AdvO and R5-P9.

I'm finding it hard to parse what's on the 2nd Nym. There are two System upgrades listed, and I know Salvaged Astromech is a squad builder bug in both lists. Anyhow, Nym seems mostly fine. I don't think I'd invest in Extra Munitions if it's just Bomblets/Genius; that one drop doesn't seem too high value to me, but I might be underestimating Trajectory Simulator after moving with Genius. Is one post-move launch worth 2 points? Maybe. Sensor Jammer is not something I'm a huge fan of. There are more non-token focus modifications out there, and I think something like R5-P8 (the painbot from the Punishing One expansion) might be a better tool for dissuading attackers. Genius isn't mandatory post-errata.

I don't like the Rex in #2. I think that's a heck of a lot of points for a TIE fighter (and Weapons Engineer won't do anything, since he can't get target locks anyhow... but that also might be a squad builder glitch... the points don't add up properly). I saw something cool once with Chewbacca and Shield Upgrade, but that's also incredibly expensive. Rex is, I think, probably fine as a straight 14 point investment (probably better than a basic A-Wing... perhaps that's the extra point for R2-D2). Flank with him, and either you get position with your main ships if your opponent goes for him, or else you'll weaken their offense.

I've had some problems importing lists from time to time, this being one of them. Neither sensor jammer or weapons engineer were on the list when I built it, (now edited). I'm not sure the genius/EM/TS is all that valuable either just thought it might be fun to try out, could be worth it if it results in an opportune kill. If an opponent rushes ahead on the first go it would be cool to do a 4 ahead and launch a bomb at them from the get go

r5-p9 isn't one I would normally choose for Poe but I figure if you use the focus for him it was there for his ability and a regen and if not it can carry over for the next turn. r2-d2 is probably a better option though.

Edited by Mightybeard13
8 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

I don't think I'd invest in Extra Munitions if it's just Bomblets/Genius; that one drop doesn't seem too high value to me, but I might be underestimating Trajectory Simulator after moving with Genius. Is one post-move launch worth 2 points?

So, as I am understanding the ruling is if you launch a bomblet with Genius you must remove a token, hence the need for EM. I don't get it based on the verbiage on both cards, but if that's how it is, that's how it is. I was thinking something a little different, someway to get Sabine in there, because...Sabine. I know the TIE can, but what about this:

Poe Dameron (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
R2-D2 (4)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Captain Nym (Rebel) (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Extra Munitions (2)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
"Genius" (0)
Havoc (0)

AP-5 (15)
Sabine Wren (2)

Total: 97

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For points reasons and PS matching I dropped Poe down to 8(10). There is still 3 points to play with on AP. Maybe a bomb or droid. You can use Ap's coordinate as a soft Adv Sensors on one of your PS10s.

another thought I had was this

PILOTS

Poe Dameron (PS9 Version) (43)
T-70 X-Wing (33), Black One (1), R2-D2 (4), Advanced Optics (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Autothrusters (2)

Captain Nym (37)
Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Veteran Instincts (1), Autoblaster Turret (2), Bomblet Generator (3), Havoc (0), Trajectory Simulator (1)

Fenn Rau (20)
Sheathipede-class Shuttle (20), Adaptability (0)

it would be nice to get Sabine crew in there, I think Fenn could pull his weight as well and at PS10 could still be sued for the pseudo adv sensors in this squad, at least for Nym, I have my doubts he will keep up with Poe to give the coordinate but maybe. Could drop r2-d2 down to bb-8 and put sabine on Fenn

For now I really want to keep Poe at 11 since I know,more or less, what I'm up against

Edited by Mightybeard13

I think with Sabine, putting the points into a TrajSim Genius combo might be worth it. Mostly, I was doubting whether a single tossed Bomblet is worth 2 points. Spendign 2 points for one toss of 2 dice without mods seems... pricey? Being able to trigger Sabine from it goes a long way, however.

Wording wise, I'd say you trigger Genius after moving drop a bomb (necessitating the discard), then use TrajSim to change the drop to a launch.

For AP-5... Zeb would resist crits for 1 point more, but you'd lose AP-5's ability against stress mechanics. Either of them could take something like an Ion Bomb. You can protect a fleeing Sabine carrier pretty well with TrajSim. Use Nym to toss a bomb before moving, pull something like a hard 2 or 1 bank and barrel roll away, then prevent the bomb from exploding. It'll hopefully zone the enemy out from the best approach on the Phantom II (which isn't technically the Phantom II because it's not a normal title, yada yada).

so now I'm looking at this

100 pts

PILOTS

Poe Dameron (PS9 Version) (43)
T-70 X-Wing (33), Black One (1), R2-D2 (4), Advanced Optics (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Autothrusters (2)

AP-5 (18)
Sheathipede-class Shuttle (15), Sabine Wren (2), R2 Astromech (1)

Captain Nym (39)
Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Veteran Instincts (1), Extra Munitions (2), Autoblaster Turret (2), Bomblet Generator (3), Havoc (0), Trajectory Simulator (1), “Genius” (0)

Edited by Mightybeard13

or switch r2 from ap5 to deflective plating on Nym, it would be nice to have more options to ditch stress from the shuttle, but deflective plating lets Nym be more aggressive with bombs

9 minutes ago, Mightybeard13 said:

or switch r2 from ap5 to deflective plating on Nym, it would be nice to have more options to ditch stress from the shuttle, but deflective plating lets Nym be more aggressive with bombs

Nym cannot equip deflective plating it reads : B/SF 17 Bomber only

But the AP 5 list looks good

ahh, thanks, I missed that

I think Nym/Poe is a totally viable build, but you need to run them light. I also agree that Adv. Op and R5 are counterintuitive. Here's my suggestion:

PS8 Poe

VI

Adv. Optics

BB-8

Black One

Autothrusters

Nym

VI

TLT

Havoc

Bomblets

Adv. Sensors

Zeb Orrelios

Sabine's Masterpiece

Sabine Wren

Ion Bombs

You fit Sabine in, everyone runs light, target priority isn't simple, everyone has a valuable job.

30 minutes ago, Greebwahn said:

I think Nym/Poe is a totally viable build, but you need to run them light. I also agree that Adv. Op and R5 are counterintuitive. Here's my suggestion:

I felt the same way. Ironically, Advanced Optics/R5-P9 just won what will probably be the biggest regional .

Edited by gennataos
38 minutes ago, gennataos said:

R2-D2 was already on Norra, and there's pretty much no wiggle room for upgrades.

1 hour ago, Greebwahn said:

I think Nym/Poe is a totally viable build, but you need to run them light. I also agree that Adv. Op and R5 are counterintuitive. Here's my suggestion:

You fit Sabine in, everyone runs light, target priority isn't simple, everyone has a valuable job.

I think I'd try out changing BB-8 for R2-D2 and dropping Advanced Sensors down to Trajectory Simulator, but that's just a personal preference thing. List looks strong altogether.