Quick Question:

Will there be more expansions and Ally-packs for IA?

Yeahhhhhhhhhhh! Just think they can't finish without at least a Yoda or Ewoks and there's so much more than that they could explore. As long as people keep buying it, it'll keep coming.

They can also go into another edition with Episode 7+ probably but wouldn't be compatible with .. dead characters from episode 4-5-6 ;p

Xwing having Kylo Ren and Vader in the same list is already pretty weird.

On ‎8‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 6:35 AM, Kalandros said:

They can also go into another edition with Episode 7+ probably but wouldn't be compatible with .. dead characters from episode 4-5-6 ;p

Xwing having Kylo Ren and Vader in the same list is already pretty weird.

Eh I can have a list with the emperor and darth maul being best bros.

I'd be surprised if they continue the line with the new Star Wars: Legion

24 minutes ago, Godbeardman said:

Eh I can have a list with the emperor and darth maul being best bros.

I'd be surprised if they continue the line with the new Star Wars: Legion

IA is a board game, it plays fast, its easy to setup every time, you just bring your box and you're ready to go.

Legion is a miniatures game - you dont get a board to play on, many stores have no place to play it on a table, I'm not sure on game duration but Warhammer games are usually 1.5 hours if one side gets wiped out fast - 2.5-3 hours was the standard back in Fantasy days, dunno about now~

Don't compare the two against each other, they can and should both continue to co-exist not as internal rivals but as an alternative to what other companies offer on the market. Legion competes with Warhammer 40k, Age of Sigmar, WarmaHordes, Infinity, and whatever else is still popular nowadays.

8 hours ago, Kalandros said:

IA is a board game, it plays fast, its easy to setup every time, you just bring your box and you're ready to go.

Legion is a miniatures game - you dont get a board to play on, many stores have no place to play it on a table, I'm not sure on game duration but Warhammer games are usually 1.5 hours if one side gets wiped out fast - 2.5-3 hours was the standard back in Fantasy days, dunno about now~

Don't compare the two against each other, they can and should both continue to co-exist not as internal rivals but as an alternative to what other companies offer on the market. Legion competes with Warhammer 40k, Age of Sigmar, WarmaHordes, Infinity, and whatever else is still popular nowadays.

Nor to be contrary, but One Night Ultimate Werewolf is an easy set up. IA is NOT easy to set up. That is a big box for a board game and even with extensive prep and storage hacks, setup can take as long as 20 minutes. Can take as long as 40 if you have a new group who needs to review rules or if the IP has never run the mission before.

Now to answer the OP post, yes. I think there is still some life in the game. The expectation (but no evidence) is that within a month we'll be seeing either a new campaign for the app, or an announcement of new figure pack. Perhaps both.

I also wouldn't be surprised if we saw a small box expansion at some point in 2018.

49 minutes ago, Pollux85 said:

Nor to be contrary, but One Night Ultimate Werewolf is an easy set up. IA is NOT easy to set up. That is a big box for a board game and even with extensive prep and storage hacks, setup can take as long as 20 minutes. Can take as long as 40 if you have a new group who needs to review rules or if the IP has never run the mission before.

You're not wrong, but I think he means in comparison to other tabletop miniatures games. For a Board Game (especially a FFG game) IA isn't too bad, especially if you have things sorted well in storage.

Assembling a map can be a bit of a pain, but it's significantly easier than creating a terrain table- and offers far more variety in the future.

On 1/10/2018 at 9:48 AM, subtrendy2 said:

You're not wrong, but I think he means in comparison to other tabletop miniatures games. For a Board Game (especially a FFG game) IA isn't too bad, especially if you have things sorted well in storage.

Assembling a map can be a bit of a pain, but it's significantly easier than creating a terrain table- and offers far more variety in the future.

It's easier to put together the boardgame IA than to make new scenery from scratch. But as someone who already has extensive scenery collections, I can turn a table into a model battlefield faster than I can setup the IA board. So, it depends on your situation.

On 11.01.2018 at 11:47 PM, TauntaunScout said:

It's easier to put together the boardgame IA than to make new scenery from scratch. But as someone who already has extensive scenery collections, I can turn a table into a model battlefield faster than I can setup the IA board. So, it depends on your situation.

Yes, but it only reinforces the point, that Legion is competing with other tabletop miniature games rather than with IA. Miniature gamer, like you, will have easy access to Legion, because of scenery owned beforehand. Board player will have hard time, because he would have to make scenery from scratch

2 hours ago, Jarema said:

Yes, but it only reinforces the point, that Legion is competing with other tabletop miniature games rather than with IA. Miniature gamer, like you, will have easy access to Legion, because of scenery owned beforehand. Board player will have hard time, because he would have to make scenery from scratch

As a casual gamer who loves the Imperial Assault campaigns, I have zero interest in Legion and I'll be very disappointed if they stop producing campaigns (and I don't mean app campaigns)

3 hours ago, Jarema said:

Yes, but it only reinforces the point, that Legion is competing with other tabletop miniature games rather than with IA. Miniature gamer, like you, will have easy access to Legion, because of scenery owned beforehand. Board player will have hard time, because he would have to make scenery from scratch

Well I hope IA still does well because I have a lot of it and don't want to get into Legion. But scenery isn't hard to make and can be made from literal garbage. I could probably make a tabletop battlefield for $30 if I had to buy paint, brushes, glue, and a roll of felt.

1 hour ago, TauntaunScout said:

Well I hope IA still does well because I have a lot of it and don't want to get into Legion. But scenery isn't hard to make and can be made from literal garbage. I could probably make a tabletop battlefield for $30 if I had to buy paint, brushes, glue, and a roll of felt.

Technically you can make scenery for next to nothing and no effort if you don't care what it looks like. Scenery can be random junk, stationery, boxes or stones and perfectly serviceable...

2 hours ago, neosmagus said:

Technically you can make scenery for next to nothing and no effort if you don't care what it looks like. Scenery can be random junk, stationery, boxes or stones and perfectly serviceable...

That is true from a rules perspective. Throw some coffee mugs on a table to bock LOS and you've got a game. But I'd never play that way, it would defeat the whole purpose. May as well just play RISK or Twister if I didn't like model games.

A roll of grass or sand colored felt for the field. A couple blue felt ovals for ponds and a long blue felt strip for a stream. Brown felt ovals for rough terrain patches. Need forests? Scatter sticks and gravel for fallen logs and boulders around, say it's area terrain that provides cover and slows movement. Keep an eye out for thrown out packaging that can be spray painted into ok looking buildings. Find free styrofoam insulation scraps to carve hills out of, paint them with cheap craft acrylics.

I started wargaming with Star Wars and next to no scenery budget as a kid. You can make a nice looking table for almost free.

I know, I have made 3 sceneries myself (for Warhammer). And they are rather of low quality. It was not expensive, but amount of work put into them was significant

I don't mean to be pessimistic, but the idea that Legion is competing with other tabletop miniature wargames doesn't also mean it can't compete with IA. The two aren't mutually exclusive, and honestly I think it only stands to reason that Legion will have some effect on IA. It just waits to be seen what and how big that effect will be.

On January 17, 2018 at 10:03 AM, subtrendy2 said:

I don't mean to be pessimistic, but the idea that Legion is competing with other tabletop miniature wargames doesn't also mean it can't compete with IA. The two aren't mutually exclusive, and honestly I think it only stands to reason that Legion will have some effect on IA. It just waits to be seen what and how big that effect will be.

Indeed. You're on the right track with your thoughts here.

IA and Legion WILL be competing, but we need to define what we mean by that.

Competing for our time. Competing for our disposable gaming dollars. Competing for space in our homes (not everyone has extensive space to store countless games). Competing for Star Wars gaming.

These games will be in competition, but broadly, not too much in the specific sense. I enjoy playing IA, Zombicide Black Plague, Arkham Horror LCG, Battlelore and Rebellion with my wife. All very different games, all of which would be competing for our time to sit down and play a game together. So if I were to hypothetically introduce Legion into this dynamic, I have to ask myself if I think it will be a worthwhile experience such that it would be beneficial to us to remove some of these games from our current rotation to fit it in, or would be rather just be playing any of the above, without having to now also set up a small terrain collection to coincide with Legion entering our home?

I'd answer "no" to that scenario, so thus in my mind it's not really a competition at all.

How this influences the overall player base remains to be seen.

Maybe people will crawl out of the thematic joke that is X-Wing's competitive meta for something that looks a little more "Star Wars" to them and pick up Legion so they can get in on the ground floor of another Star Wars game to replace it. We just need to let it come out and see what happens.

If it's a doomsayer thing that everyone is afraid of here, then just ask yourself how realistic it is that you'd be dropping IA for Legion. If the answer is "not very", then chances are the game's sales will continue on as they release more product for it.

Of course the two can coexist in players collections, but the games do cover many different categories of gaming, even though they also cover many that are similar. It's those differences that really decide where the wind blows, in my mind. If the games were too similar, Legion would be like an instant flop because it would be a waste of our resources to start over painting and buying all these models to achieve the same basic game experience.