Thanks

I was really just curious, because I know with forexample, other series - and even other series that Michael Stackpole has written - they did not age well when I went back after 15 years...

2 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

Do you think it may be that - like me - you’re simply OLDER than you were when enjoying the books/stories of old, and the majority of these are solidly Young-Adult aimed titles?

That to me is why Thrawn really stood out versus the others.

No, there's a noticeable quality difference. I reread a lot of the old Bantam line about the same time I read Aftermath . X-Wing , the Thrawn Trilogy, The Black Fleet Crisis , etc. X-Wing and the Thrawn Trilogy were as good as I remembered, and The Black Fleet Crisis was far better since I skipped the Lando portions. Also read a few of the Del-Rey books, like Shatterpoint and Outbound Flight . Most Star Wars books I've found to be enjoyable and most of those stand up to a reread. Only a select few do I think are terrible the first time through. (Looking at you Dark Nest , Yoda: Dark Rendezvous , and Aftermath )

As for being aimed at Young Adults, it's a fair argument. Both Aftermath and parts of Tarkin had that vibe. The flip side to that is they aren't being marketed as young-adult novels like Ashoka and Lost Stars , and therefore should be up to Adult-novel quality. If they're not going to do so, criticism of them is more than fair.

I might try Catalyst , we'll see. No real interest in Bloodlines , as it's set too deep in the Disney-Verse for me to actually care about what's happening. Might go back and read The Bounty Hunter Wars books, as I've somehow missed them.

Sorry, Duplicate post.

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Sorry, Duplicate post.

1 hour ago, Alpha17 said:

No, there's a noticeable quality difference. I reread a lot of the old Bantam line about the same time I read Aftermath . X-Wing , the Thrawn Trilogy, The Black Fleet Crisis , etc. X-Wing and the Thrawn Trilogy were as good as I remembered, and The Black Fleet Crisis was far better since I skipped the Lando portions. Also read a few of the Del-Rey books, like Shatterpoint and Outbound Flight . Most Star Wars books I've found to be enjoyable and most of those stand up to a reread. Only a select few do I think are terrible the first time through. (Looking at you Dark Nest , Yoda: Dark Rendezvous , and Aftermath )

As for being aimed at Young Adults, it's a fair argument. Both Aftermath and parts of Tarkin had that vibe. The flip side to that is they aren't being marketed as young-adult novels like Ashoka and Lost Stars , and therefore should be up to Adult-novel quality. If they're not going to do so, criticism of them is more than fair.

I might try Catalyst , we'll see. No real interest in Bloodlines , as it's set too deep in the Disney-Verse for me to actually care about what's happening. Might go back and read The Bounty Hunter Wars books, as I've somehow missed them.

Four duplicates?

Catalyst wasn’t that good but it was interesting rather than fun

4 hours ago, Jabby said:

Four duplicates?

Catalyst wasn’t that good but it was interesting rather than fun

Yeah, my apologies. I hit reply, and nothing happened. So I hit it again and then again thinking my internet or computer was the problem. Didn't realize it could post without, well, showing it post, or doing anything to indicate it had.

It’s okay, I just thought you were REALLY trying to get my attention ?

3 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

It’s okay, I just thought you were REALLY trying to get my attention ?

I'm sure the notifications for each quote got quite annoying.

As will this one, come to think of it.....

Just now, Alpha17 said:

I'm sure the notifications for each quote got quite annoying.

As will this one, come to think of it.....

Hardly.

You don’t approach 21k likes without being a little sardonic about it ?

So I just finished the 3rd aftermath. Yes, its bad, but gets better towards the end. Still leaves way too many plotholes open at the end though.

Bloodlines is actually really good, I highly recommend it. It sets foundations for the First Order and resistance

Lost Stars was suprisingly excellent. A new take on telling the story of the original trilogy.

Phasma is basically Mad Max: Phasma Road. Not bad. Adds so much background to a character that gets so little screen time

Heir to the Jedi was just terrible. I gave up at Noodle scooter

Tarkin and Thrawn are just brilliant

1 hour ago, Funk Fu master said:

Heir to the Jedi was just terrible. I gave up at Noodle scooter

I first thought you said “heir to the EMPIRE” and i had written a whole rant

My biggest problem with Aftermath: Life Debt is that nobody in the story group bothered to check it for continuity errors. In the book Mon Mothma claims that Kashyyyk has no strategic significance to the New Republic at all thus Han Solo is on his own and has to form his own strike team to liberate Kashyyyk. This contradicts Revenge of the Sith where Obi-Wan says, "We do not have many ships to spare" but Yoda, Mace Windu, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Obi-Wan and the rest of the Jedi Council all agree that Kashyyyk is "a system we cannot afford to lose." Yoda even oversees the defense of Kashyyyk personally. When the Grand Master of the Jedi Order and 3 other Jedi Masters fight for a planet you know it must be significant. I would be more forgiving if this detail were hidden in some obscure source book or atlas that was retconned, but Disney cannot retcon one of the movies. This means that Yoda, Luminara Unduli, Quinlan Vos and company were incompetent morons who fought over a planet that was worthless according to Chuck Wendig.

7 hours ago, DarthBane66 said:

My biggest problem with Aftermath: Life Debt is that nobody in the story group bothered to check it for continuity errors. In the book Mon Mothma claims that Kashyyyk has no strategic significance to the New Republic at all thus Han Solo is on his own and has to form his own strike team to liberate Kashyyyk. This contradicts Revenge of the Sith where Obi-Wan says, "We do not have many ships to spare" but Yoda, Mace Windu, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Obi-Wan and the rest of the Jedi Council all agree that Kashyyyk is "a system we cannot afford to lose." Yoda even oversees the defense of Kashyyyk personally. When the Grand Master of the Jedi Order and 3 other Jedi Masters fight for a planet you know it must be significant. I would be more forgiving if this detail were hidden in some obscure source book or atlas that was retconned, but Disney cannot retcon one of the movies. This means that Yoda, Luminara Unduli, Quinlan Vos and company were incompetent morons who fought over a planet that was worthless according to Chuck Wendig.

Well not necessarily. Different war, different circumstances. We don't know why Kashyyyk was important in the CW. Was it located at an important junction for hyperlanes to Coruscant? Was it just that the Senate didn't want to lose face? Was it because they relied on the Wookies for something? Without knowing exactly why it was important, we can't really say that it is inconsistent to determine it unimportant in another war.

8 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Well not necessarily. Different war, different circumstances. We don't know why Kashyyyk was important in the CW. Was it located at an important junction for hyperlanes to Coruscant? Was it just that the Senate didn't want to lose face? Was it because they relied on the Wookies for something? Without knowing exactly why it was important, we can't really say that it is inconsistent to determine it unimportant in another war.

In Legends, Kashyyyk is the nexus of 4 important hyperspace routes. I understand that Disney made a new galaxy map but their map is terrible. For instance, when the Starkiller base destroys Hosnian Prime, Finn is able to see it from Takodana. I logically assumed that Takodana and Hosnian Prime were in the same star system because they would have to be close together for someone to see that with the naked eye. Instead the planets are about 25,000 light years away. Venus is only 6 light minutes away and people can barely see that with the naked eye. In The Last Jedi, Finn and Rose travel to Cantonica to the city of Canto Bight to find a slicer. Again I assumed that Canto Bight was in the same star system as Crait because the fleet was running dangerously low on fuel. Instead the visual dictionary puts Cantonica in the far right corner which is about 150,000 light years away from Crait. That is more than half way across the galaxy. That is like the earth equivalent of driving from Argentina to Alaska just to find a computer hacker. That would use up an absurd amount of fuel that the Resistance couldn't afford to waste.

18 minutes ago, DarthBane66 said:

In Legends, Kashyyyk is the nexus of 4 important hyperspace routes. I understand that Disney made a new galaxy map but their map is terrible. For instance, when the Starkiller base destroys Hosnian Prime, Finn is able to see it from Takodana. I logically assumed that Takodana and Hosnian Prime were in the same star system because they would have to be close together for someone to see that with the naked eye. Instead the planets are about 25,000 light years away. Venus is only 6 light minutes away and people can barely see that with the naked eye. In The Last Jedi, Finn and Rose travel to Cantonica to the city of Canto Bight to find a slicer. Again I assumed that Canto Bight was in the same star system as Crait because the fleet was running dangerously low on fuel. Instead the visual dictionary puts Cantonica in the far right corner which is about 150,000 light years away from Crait. That is more than half way across the galaxy. That is like the earth equivalent of driving from Argentina to Alaska just to find a computer hacker. That would use up an absurd amount of fuel that the Resistance couldn't afford to waste.

There are definitely issues with the new map. That is my primary issues with the new trilogy.

On 1/27/2018 at 5:08 AM, Funk Fu master said:

Heir to the Jedi was just terrible. I gave up at Noodle scooter

.......Noodle.......Scooter?

4 hours ago, Noosh said:

.......Noodle.......Scooter?

Yes... Luke Skywalker, first of his name, son of the chosen one, bringer of balance, hero of Yavin, scooter of noodles

9 hours ago, Funk Fu master said:

Yes... Luke Skywalker, first of his name, son of the chosen one, bringer of balance, hero of Yavin, scooter of noodles

........... Pasta or rice?

Reading Leia: Princess of Alderaan right now, and I think Claudia Gray might be the best writer not named Zahn putting out new stuff for Star Wars Cannon.

I miss Aaron Alliston.

Like I said, I deal mostly with the Audiobooks, and I’d concur @BiggsIRL ... All of the negativity o read about Lost Stars wasn’t the writing, it was the Narration.

On 2/4/2018 at 2:06 PM, DarthBane66 said:

In Legends, Kashyyyk is the nexus of 4 important hyperspace routes. I understand that Disney made a new galaxy map but their map is terrible. For instance, when the Starkiller base destroys Hosnian Prime, Finn is able to see it from Takodana. I logically assumed that Takodana and Hosnian Prime were in the same star system because they would have to be close together for someone to see that with the naked eye. Instead the planets are about 25,000 light years away. Venus is only 6 light minutes away and people can barely see that with the naked eye. In The Last Jedi, Finn and Rose travel to Cantonica to the city of Canto Bight to find a slicer. Again I assumed that Canto Bight was in the same star system as Crait because the fleet was running dangerously low on fuel. Instead the visual dictionary puts Cantonica in the far right corner which is about 150,000 light years away from Crait. That is more than half way across the galaxy. That is like the earth equivalent of driving from Argentina to Alaska just to find a computer hacker. That would use up an absurd amount of fuel that the Resistance couldn't afford to waste.

And apparently you can make the trip there and back all in less than 18 hours!

On 08/02/2018 at 1:43 AM, BiggsIRL said:

Reading Leia: Princess of Alderaan right now, and I think Claudia Gray might be the best writer not named Zahn putting out new stuff for Star Wars Cannon.

I miss Aaron Alliston.

I think James Luceno is pretty good too, Tarkin is my second favourite new canon book (Thrawn takes first of course)

On 05/02/2018 at 6:24 AM, Funk Fu master said:

Yes... Luke Skywalker, first of his name, son of the chosen one, bringer of balance, hero of Yavin, scooter of noodles

I still dont get this? Could you explain?

Its an actual spoken line from the book..

So terrible...