I've been kicking this around for a bit. Just had a chance to fly it last night. This thing kicks butt.

looks good, but which Han? I'm assuming the original one?

It looks very tanky. How hard does it hit thou? My concern is whether it packs enough punch to do significant damage?

I've played this, a bit - and it struggled to do damage to things... Mind, I played it pre-advanced optics, and that Poe does hit a lot harder than the comm relay version ... maybe time to dust it off again.

1 hour ago, Biggsy_boy said:

It looks very tanky. How hard does it hit thou? My concern is whether it packs enough punch to do significant damage?

1 hour ago, Dreadai said:

I've played this, a bit - and it struggled to do damage to things... Mind, I played it pre-advanced optics, and that Poe does hit a lot harder than the comm relay version ... maybe time to dust it off again.

This is my primary concern with this list. Poe does ok, but can Han consistently push through enough damage to justify his points. The original Fat Han build had Predator to allow for a single re-roll. Keep us updated as I am sure a lot of people are interested in this list.

10 minutes ago, AT Leader said:

This is my primary concern with this list. Poe does ok, but can Han consistently push through enough damage to justify his points. The original Fat Han build had Predator to allow for a single re-roll. Keep us updated as I am sure a lot of people are interested in this list.

I'd be more tempted to sack off Engine and C-3PO for Gunner and a burnout slam before pulling it out ... Falcon is awesome against low agi ships ... but kind of sucks when x7 defenders or turtling aces roll across its path.

1 minute ago, Dreadai said:

I'd be more tempted to sack off Engine and C-3PO for Gunner and a burnout slam before pulling it out ... Falcon is awesome against low agi ships ... but kind of sucks when x7 defenders or turtling aces roll across its path.

That is one of the debates I have been having with myself. Lose some tankiness for Gunner, or maintain full tank and know that x7 Defenders/AT Aces will need Poe’s help.

I've even thought about a missle for an ‘alpha’, but don’t think it is worth losing EU.

I played it verses double defenders and a rho-boat yesterday.

I struggled vs the defenders damage wise, but they struggled right back damage wise. The defenders can't really crack black one Poe, and 3po han puts up a really strong guard and can threaten arc Dodges to R1. Rocks are your friends in this matchup. Whoever the defenders not chasing just needs to go on the offensive.

For reference the defenders list I faced was this guy

5 hours ago, Crimsonwarlock said:

I've been kicking this around for a bit. Just had a chance to fly it last night. This thing kicks butt.

Poe-Han ( 100 )

Poe Dameron (PS9) — T-70 X-Wing	33
Veteran Instincts	1
R2-D2	4
Advanced Optics	2
Autothrusters	2
Black One	1
Ship Total: 43
Han Solo — YT-1300	46
Veteran Instincts	1
C-3PO	3
Rey	2
Engine Upgrade	4
Millennium Falcon	1
Ship Total: 57

Just played this exact list the other day. I was running:

Fenn Rau (28) w/ Push the Limit (3) , Autothrusters (2) , Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Dalan Oberos (Kimogila) (25) , Deadeye (1) , Concussion Missiles (4) , Overclocked R4 (1) , Guidance Chips (0) , Enforcer (1)

Thweek (28) w/ Fire-Control System (2) , Glitterstim (2) , Autothrusters (2) , StarViper Mk. II (-3) , Virago (1)

Total: 98

That Han/Poe list lives and dies by PS and hits weak. They had no problem engaging Fenn at range 2 early, who took two early damage, then I used Fenn as a blocker, and was never touched again as Poe had no shots at Fenn and Han didnt want to split fire onto an autothruster ship. They then focused on killing Dalan as he had just fired a missile at Han and now reloaded. By the time they took Dalan out, I got my second missile off on Han. Thweek finished Han, then it was Thweek & Fenn vs Poe, and Poe couldnt survive the thweekness. I lose this game if I didnt have thweek.

I think the list is good, but can be better. Han without gunner or predator had a really tough time pushing any damage through except on Dalan. Sure, its tanky, but my autothruster aces took 4 damage total all game, until the very last round where I had range 1 Fenn shot and just said what the **** and boosting with thweek into range 1 of Poe to finish him off and Poe and Thweek killed each other.

1 hour ago, wurms said:

Just played this exact list the other day. I was running:

Fenn Rau (28) w/ Push the Limit (3) , Autothrusters (2) , Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Dalan Oberos (Kimogila) (25) , Deadeye (1) , Concussion Missiles (4) , Overclocked R4 (1) , Guidance Chips (0) , Enforcer (1)

Thweek (28) w/ Fire-Control System (2) , Glitterstim (2) , Autothrusters (2) , StarViper Mk. II (-3) , Virago (1)

Total: 98

That Han/Poe list lives and dies by PS and hits weak. They had no problem engaging Fenn at range 2 early, who took two early damage, then I used Fenn as a blocker, and was never touched again as Poe had no shots at Fenn and Han didnt want to split fire onto an autothruster ship. They then focused on killing Dalan as he had just fired a missile at Han and now reloaded. By the time they took Dalan out, I got my second missile off on Han. Thweek finished Han, then it was Thweek & Fenn vs Poe, and Poe couldnt survive the thweekness. I lose this game if I didnt have thweek.

I think the list is good, but can be better. Han without gunner or predator had a really tough time pushing any damage through except on Dalan. Sure, its tanky, but my autothruster aces took 4 damage total all game, until the very last round where I had range 1 Fenn shot and just said what the **** and boosting with thweek into range 1 of Poe to finish him off and Poe and Thweek killed each other.

I see you like OCR4+ Concussion Dalan as well...

The trick to the list is to get the enemy to be chasing one of your ships while the other follows and deals damage.

But the point about low firepower is more than fair.

2 hours ago, Crimsonwarlock said:

For reference the defenders list I faced was this guy

Colonel Vessery — TIE Defender	35
Juke	2
TIE/x7	-2
Ship Total: 35
Countess Ryad — TIE Defender	34
Push the Limit	3
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II	1
TIE/x7	-2
Ship Total: 36
Rho Squadron Veteran — Alpha-class Star Wing	21
Expertise	4
Harpoon Missiles	4
Ship Total: 29 I did have the advantage that I can trade 1/2 pts on han for the Rho and still win. In our match, I killed the gunboat first. Then vessery got a lucky shot early that wiped Poe's shields in one attack. He spent several rounds trying to pick up the spare. (Poe's defensive game is beyond reproach.). I eventually scrapped the defenders off of Poe by flying past a rock at a good angle. The defenders tried to switch to following Han, but Poe quickly reversed and started peeling locks off of Han with the one of the defenders having to spend mods defensively and no target locks available they couldn't put big damage through. I eventually killed vessery and my opponent surrendered as he had a 5 health Ryad vs full health Poe and a Han who was only missing a couple of shields.

Your opponent was just dumb though.

I too played with a modification of this list (I had Lone Wolf on Han) against triple x/7 defenders and Han couldn't get enough damage through. I'm interested in seeing if adding Gunner makes a difference.

Change R2-D2 to BB-8, skip EU (I know it hurts), change Rey to Luke (who is utterly amazing with hans rerolls) or some other solution for gunner.

Random list with no testing put in:

Hanrey (99)

•Han Solo (59) - YT-1300
Veteran Instincts (1), •Luke Skywalker (7), •C-3PO (3), •Millennium Falcon (1), Tactical Jammer (1)

•Poe Dameron (40) - T-70 X-Wing
Veteran Instincts (1), Flight-Assist Astromech (1), Sensor Cluster (2), •Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

15 hours ago, Muppetfluffer said:

Change R2-D2 to BB-8, skip EU (I know it hurts), change Rey to Luke (who is utterly amazing with hans rerolls) or some other solution for gunner.

Without Intensity, BB-8 Poe is Tier 3 at best.

2 hours ago, Tbetts94 said:

Without Intensity, BB-8 Poe is Tier 3 at best.

Not at all true. B.B.-8 with black one limits your opponents action choices, and allows you to park your x-wing behind rocks for extra green Dice.

Also, it’s more fluffy!

20 minutes ago, Estarriol said:

Not at all true. B.B.-8 with black one limits your opponents action choices, and allows you to park your x-wing behind rocks for extra green Dice.

Also, it’s more fluffy!

If he had Comm Relay, then it would help. But Poe needs Regen or a substitute for Regen such as an Evade token.

In my experience, if you can’t arc dodge at PS11 with a free pre move barrel roll you need to rethink your life choices!

I suspect out metas may be somewhat different, but I don’t accept that it’s a bad choice.

Clearing 2 TLs in a round is amazing in harpoonmeta. A few tournaments where dash +ps11 BB-8 poe won since wave 11 release.

R2 doesnt do anything vs 2-3 harpoons in a round.

11 hours ago, Muppetfluffer said:

Clearing 2 TLs in a round is amazing in harpoonmeta. A few tournaments where dash +ps11 BB-8 poe won since wave 11 release.

I never thought of this - but one with the boost and one with the barrel roll. Sounds legit and should work. Maybe BB-8 is better. I know R2-D2 regens, but don't need to regan a shield you didn't lose

@Crimsonwarlock Gonna be running it for all three hanger bays today. I’ll send you the bat reps later.

2-0 in Hanger Bay so far. Facing Trip Defenders next. We’ll see if he picks the X/7 list or Tie /D

7 hours ago, Tbetts94 said:

@Crimsonwarlock Gonna be running it for all three hanger bays today. I’ll send you the bat reps later.

What build did you settle on?

2 hours ago, AT Leader said:

What build did you settle on?

Same as the OP list. I think that’s the optimal build. Went 3-0 today. 572/600 MOV. I’ll have a full write up later when we make it home.