my poe list

By ltetone, in X-Wing Squad Lists

hey all,

i've been working the last couple weeks with finding a poe list that i feel comfortable with in the current meta. i think he's been discussed to death in these forums, and my build is really no different then what people, for the most part, have seemed to agree on. in my opinion, he's the strongest ace in the meta currently (but i am biased :D):

Poe Dameron (PS9) — T-70 X-Wing
Veteran Instincts
BB-8
Advanced Optics
Autothrusters
Black One

Ship Total: 41

arc dodger and TL stripper. advanced focus has really solidified this list in my mind as the best bang for your buck. i tried for awhile to pair him up with other t-65s or t70s (snap, wedge, wes, jess, etc), and one of the issues that i'm sure everyone has run into is how fragile these ships can be.

Lowhhrick — Auzituck Gunship
Predator
C-3PO
Tactician

Ship Total: 36

obviously low is going to be able to help out on the defensive end. early on i was running him with maul/ezra, which is a very potent offensive combination. i would guess that the mode number of maul re-rolls i would use in that build was 1, such that even if i would miss i could still reinforce the next round. i really wanted c-3 in the build to be able to guarantee my evades, so i swapped out maul for him. i really wanted to maintain an offensive output so i started putting predator on in lieu of draw/selflessness. tactician naturally came in due to the size of the front arc

for the last ship i tried for a very long time to work in a ps11 fenn. in the end it just wasn't having the impact on the board i wanted.

Ezra Bridger (Sheathipede) — Sheathipede-class Shuttle 17
Rage
Tactician
R3-A2
Ship Total: 22

Total: 99

stressbot ezra has always performed well for me. with this 2 tac/r3 build, your opponents options get widdled down very quickly. theres a number of options depending on the way the game plays out. without gunner, there will be times when ezra does not have a stress and can coordinate a focus on low, which is crazy good. rage can be popped on the first encounter to ensure the defensive eyeballs are up on the first salvo, and/or when your expecting a r1 attack to focus/reroll all of reds. i like this better than just giving up on his red dice entirely with the gunner route. this fenn can actually punch through a bit of damage.

what i like about the list is both the synergies that exist between the ships as well as how well they perform on their own. there a lot of sustainability in terms of evades that any one ship can put up while simultaneously negating opponents tokens via stress and the black one title.

there are a few things i would still like to have. i think a 2 point bid is warranted given you really want to get to be able to use the title on TLs that turn. draw/selflessness is something i still miss, but in general i want he offensive output as high as possible given the list doesn't have a big alpha strike. it can be a real headache at times to fly as these ships really want to be pretty close together. bombs heavy list are a real problem as well, it's just a weak match-up. but overall i'm having a lot of fun flying it. just wanted to share!

Edited by ltetone

Nice list. Can always drop rage for adaptability on Ezra to get your 2pt bid. Something like Kylo and two Boats, Ezra can just focus against Kylos shot before firing. Anything with multiple high PS ships that hit hard, just stress yourself with a red move before engagement.

What kind of world do we live in were PS11 needs a 2pt bid :huh:

I wonder why you want Rage on Ezra? He's really not offensive enough to warrant it.

My big concern is that your list lacks damage output. Poe is not exactly a sledgehammer, Ezra is pitiable offensively, and Low has potential, but its rather dice-reliant. I'd rather have Poe, Ezra (with Gunner rather than Tactician, and a heavy hitter.

Totally agree with these critiques.

Low is there to help protect the other ships, like I mentioned. He's also a tank with c-3p0 if they decide to target him first. Rage was there to grab the early round stresses, but you are right about his output and its worth on him.

I've tried a few other EPTs on Ezra (snap and adaptability). ATM I'm on adaptability and it feels pretty okay. It's nice against other lows.

Early on, Low gets a focus with his reinforce from the coordinate action. Those shots, with predator, are consistently good (average 2.7 hits per 3 reds). That will go down over time as stresszra loses the ability to coordinate (1.8 hits per 3 reds). Recently, I've played around with expertise (2.3 hits per 3 reds) for a more consistent output to address what you mentioned. But overall, you are right in your assertion that the list does not hit like sledgehammer, it wheedles away. You just try to keep poe r3 and use low/c3 on defense.

you have 35ish points to play around with. i really don't think there's a better rebel ship you can get for those points then the wookie canoe. a really light miranda can squeeze in there i suppose if you change enough. I'm not sure what heavy hitter you have in mind though, would love to hear any suggestion you'd have!

edit:

thinking about it some, I came up with 2 different builds to go with a 41 point Poe (ps11 AO or intensity-primed):

•Lowhhrick (35) - Auzituck Gunship
Expertise (4), •C-3PO (3)

with either...

•Ezra Bridger (24) - Sheathipede-class Shuttle
Adaptability (0), Gunner (5), •R3-A2 (2)

or

•Fenn Rau (23) - Sheathipede-class Shuttle
Adaptability (0), "Chopper" (0), •M9-G8 (3)

with the latter giving a 1 point bid. M9/expertise low with c3 seems like it would do well dishing damage and tanking, with fenn locking down tokens.

Edited by ltetone

Use eaden vrill + rey for a 4 red fully modified attack at range 1

Expertise on Low to increase your damage output and claim for the opponent's stressing tricks

Ezra Bridger(25) [Ezra Bridger(17), Expert Handling(2), Tactician(2), R3-A2(2), Pulsed Ray Shield(2), Phantom II(0)]

Lowhhrick(37) [Lowhhrick(28), Tactician(2), C-3PO(3), Expertise(4)]

Eaden Vrill(38) [Eaden Vrill(32), Guidance Chips(0), Rey(2), Burnout Slam(1), Smuggling Compartment(0), Cruise Missiles(3)]

Edited by Ninotik
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1 hour ago, Ninotik said:

Use eaden vrill + rey for a 4 red fully modified attack at range 1

Expertise on Low to increase your damage output and claim for the opponent's stressing tricks

Ezra Bridger(25) [Ezra Bridger(17), Expert Handling(2), Tactician(2), R3-A2(2), Pulsed Ray Shield(2), Phantom II(0)]

Lowhhrick(37) [Lowhhrick(28), Tactician(2), C-3PO(3), Expertise(4)]

Eaden Vrill(38) [Eaden Vrill(32), Guidance Chips(0), Rey(2), Burnout Slam(1), Smuggling Compartment(0), Cruise Missiles(3)]

Well at that point it’s not a Poe list anymore ;)

Poe as you have him and Ezra (I like Gunner/Stressbot/Snap Shot), leaves room for a budget Norra (VI, Rey, FAA, AO) or a Keyan Farlander for a hammer. If you went for Keyan w/ Maul/VI, you'd have to downgrade to FAA on Poe, but I think it'd be worth it.

5 hours ago, Greebwahn said:

Poe as you have him and Ezra (I like Gunner/Stressbot/Snap Shot), leaves room for a budget Norra (VI, Rey, FAA, AO) or a Keyan Farlander for a hammer. If you went for Keyan w/ Maul/VI, you'd have to downgrade to FAA on Poe, but I think it'd be worth it.

Isn't FAA really counterintuitive on Norra, since she have an auxilliary arc?

8 hours ago, NLJUNGBERG said:

Isn't FAA really counterintuitive on Norra, since she have an auxilliary arc?

I don't think it's counterintuitive, it just won't trigger as much.

On 1/16/2018 at 12:34 AM, Rolotamasi said:

I don't think it's counterintuitive, it just won't trigger as much.

Yes, its more a 1 point insurance than anything else.

What about this version of Ezra and Norra? Ezra can dish stress and help Norra/Poe token stack. And this is a very good regen Norra for late game if Poe eats it to the current world of harpoons and bombs.

Ezra Bridger (Sheathipede) (17)
Adaptability (0)
Jan Ors (2)
R3-A2 (2)

Norra Wexley (29)
Push the Limit (3)
Rey (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Total: 100

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8 minutes ago, Pash Horn said:

What about this version of Ezra and Norra? Ezra can dish stress and help Norra/Poe token stack. And this is a very good regen Norra for late game if Poe eats it to the current world of harpoons and bombs.

Ezra Bridger (Sheathipede) (17)
Adaptability (0)
Jan Ors (2)
R3-A2 (2)

Norra Wexley (29)
Push the Limit (3)
Rey (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Total: 100

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I'm not a fan of that particular Norra. Without FAA or vectored shes pretty immobile.

Yep. It is an issue. you could take Jan Ors off Ezra to give Norra vectored thrusters.

I’ve been working on a very similar list for the last week. With FAA Jess Pava or Snap instead of Lowhhrick, Poe with Optics, VI, and R2-D2 and Ezra with Snap shot, stressbot and tactican.

ill keep an eye on this post and see how yours performs. :)

This is my latest LoPoFenn list. I'm not sold on Jan crew, but the rest of it is pretty set.

Lowhhrick (28)
Selflessness (1)
Rey (2)
Jan Ors (2)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Veteran Instincts (1)
BB-8 (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Fenn Rau (Sheathipede) (20)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Hotshot Co-pilot (4)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)

Total: 100

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This is my version where I think I might loose Pulsed Ray Shield on Fenn to get BB8 on Poe and a three point bid.

FennLowAce (98/100)
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Fenn Rau + Veteran Instincts + Flight-Assist Astromech + Hotshot Co-pilot + Pulsed Ray Shield (28)
Lowhhrick + Draw Their Fire + Intelligence Agent + Tactician (32)
Poe Dameron + Veteran Instincts + Flight-Assist Astromech + Advanced Optics + Black One + Autothrusters (38)

9 hours ago, Ausir said:

This is my version where I think I might loose Pulsed Ray Shield on Fenn to get BB8 on Poe and a three point bid.

FennLowAce (98/100)
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Fenn Rau + Veteran Instincts + Flight-Assist Astromech + Hotshot Co-pilot + Pulsed Ray Shield (28)
Lowhhrick + Draw Their Fire + Intelligence Agent + Tactician (32)
Poe Dameron + Veteran Instincts + Flight-Assist Astromech + Advanced Optics + Black One + Autothrusters (38)

I am not sure if BB8 will prove to be a better choice for Poe than FAA in this build, but you should try both of them and decide what works best with your style of play. I would, however, use the spare point to upgrade Int Agent to Rey. Rey makes Lowhhricks damage output much better, and in a list with only a little bit of repositioning I think Rey would be the best choice.

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