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We could have had X-wing on XBOXONEX but no we had Battlefront 2 Loot Box edition, then again EA would have probably gave this game the same treatment so good news I guess.

I really truly hope Disney strips the licence from them.

Indeed

or at least drop the exclusivity so they can't block or corrupt good games like this.

most likely reasons?

it would require EA to give up/loan its exclusive rights to star wars to a non-EA controlled company.

it would have competed with their Battlefront II game (which has a lot of space combat sections as a core part)

and while the demo looks good, we don't know what the proposal included as far as storyline proposals and features. it could be the game's concept went against what EA is allowed to do storyline wise.

Any company that deals with EA should have a 'stupid decision' duckout written into the contract where they can just cancel the whole deal anytime EA makes a sufficient number of business decisions to start destroying the brand's ability to make money.

12 hours ago, mithril2098 said:

most likely reasons?

it would require EA to give up/loan its exclusive rights to star wars to a non-EA controlled company.

it would have competed with their Battlefront II game (which has a lot of space combat sections as a core part)

and while the demo looks good, we don't know what the proposal included as far as storyline proposals and features. it could be the game's concept went against what EA is allowed to do storyline wise.

Pretty much the middle one, the 1st one would not be an issue as EA would buy the developer and put them to work on the title. But since they want exclusively Battlefront 2 to be the end all of all star wars games (their games as a service model) that is why they said pretty much no and tell everyone to go play battlefront 2 and don't forget about the loot boxes.

11 hours ago, flyboymb said:

Any company that deals with EA should have a 'stupid decision' duckout written into the contract where they can just cancel the whole deal anytime EA makes a sufficient number of business decisions to start destroying the brand's ability to make money.

While it might be a mixed blessing an X-wing game like this didn't get "adopted" by EA as it would not survive the corruption the fact of the matter EA has 5 more years of exclusivity for All $tar War$ games. IF they tried to go without EA then next thing they would know is the mouse knocking down their door with C&D orders as EA would rat them out in a heart beat. So yeah take a que from Cup Head Don't Deal with the Devil but right now the Devil has $tar War$ lock stock and barrel. WE may never get a good star wars game as long as EA holds the key.

Speaking of which anyone going to worlds? Perhaps we can make some anti-EA merchendice something to show & tell Disney "Hey don't renew that deal in 5 years".

Considering how much they like money, I'm absolutely amazed that neither EA and Disney have worked out the following ridiculously simple equation:

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I wouldn't have wanted that game, anyway, because that is NOT X-Wing. X-Wing is NOT just a "space shooter." I want a true, PC-focused space-combat simulator. I DON'T want it to have aids for gamepads. I DON'T want players to be able to save scum mid-mission. And before anyone says there isn't a market for that anymore, Star Citizen has raked in over $150 MILLION in crowdfunding. Can you imagine what it could have done if it had the Star Wars license attached?

Pfft star citizen is a scam it's a game that'll never come out it makes too much money in development.

20 minutes ago, Hobojebus said:

Pfft star citizen is a scam it's a game that'll never come out it makes too much money in development.

That doesn't change my point in the slightest.

9 hours ago, Marinealver said:

While it might be a mixed blessing an X-wing game like this didn't get "adopted" by EA as it would not survive the corruption the fact of the matter EA has 5 more years of exclusivity for All $tar War$ games. IF they tried to go without EA then next thing they would know is the mouse knocking down their door with C&D orders as EA would rat them out in a heart beat. So yeah take a que from Cup Head Don't Deal with the Devil but right now the Devil has $tar War$ lock stock and barrel. WE may never get a good star wars game as long as EA holds the key.

Really what they ought to do is just change the flight models juuuuust across the line from copyright infringement, call it 'War in the Stars', have a hit on their hands, and send a lipstick kiss photo to Disney of the devs surrounded by fat stacks of cash saying 'wish you were here'. In the meantime EA will have come out with Battlefront 3 after having provided DLC and support for 2 for all of 9 months.

I'd bet that would cause an extreme case of

Just now, flyboymb said:

Really what they ought to do is just change the flight models juuuuust across the line from copyright infringement, call it 'War in the Stars', have a hit on their hands, and send a lipstick kiss photo to Disney of the devs surrounded by fat stacks of cash saying 'wish you were here'. In the meantime EA will have come out with Battlefront 3 after having provided DLC and support for 2 for all of 9 months.

I'd bet that would cause an extreme case of

Well the engine is the same used for another game called Rebel Space, but it has no Star Wars stuff in it for obvious reasons. Lets face it Star Wars is a powerful brand, why do you think we all play X-wing and not Wings of War? PRoblem is EA made a deal to have the Key and Disney gave it to them and now they have it. No good $tar War$ games until that key is taken away from them.

3 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

Well the engine is the same used for another game called Rebel Space, but it has no Star Wars stuff in it for obvious reasons. Lets face it Star Wars is a powerful brand, why do you think we all play X-wing and not Wings of War? PRoblem is EA made a deal to have the Key and Disney gave it to them and now they have it. No good $tar War$ games until that key is taken away from them.

Well maybe somebody could develop it as a mod. I can use Star Trek ships on Empire at War, Star Wars ships on Sins of a Solar Empire and any copyrighted material you could think of on Kerbal Space Program. Depending on how easily RS allows modding, it would just be a matter of 'accidentally' releasing the Star Wars code to the public and the internet will take care of the rest.

Game mods can be legally problematic, and a lot depends on how rabid Disney wants to be with defending their trademarks. ESPECIALLY if the product the mod is for may directly compete with their own IP. LucasArts in the past had CnD's sent to mod makers for other games, so it's a very real danger that the same could happen in this case, as well.

1 hour ago, flyboymb said:

Really what they ought to do is just change the flight models juuuuust across the line from copyright infringement, call it 'War in the Stars', have a hit on their hands, and send a lipstick kiss photo to Disney of the devs surrounded by fat stacks of cash saying 'wish you were here'. In the meantime EA will have come out with Battlefront 3 after having provided DLC and support for 2 for all of 9 months.

I'd bet that would cause an extreme case of

STELLAR DISPUTES

CHAPTER 32: A FRESH EXPECTATION

It is a timeframe of civic unrest. Renegade starboats, assailing from a concealed site, have gained their first win against the distasteful Astronomical Commonwealth.

During the engagement, Renegade snoops managed to borrow clandestine blueprints to the Commonwealth's preeminent machine, the RUINATION MOON, a fortified stellar depot with enough intensity to annihilate most of a world.

Chased by the Commonwealth's underhanded minions, Archduchess Veia speeds around on her spaceboat, trustee of the borrowed blueprints that can aid her subjects and bring back liberty to the island universe...."

Couldn't be any worse than Turkish star wars.

1 hour ago, flyboymb said:

Couldn't be any worse than Turkish star wars.

Still better than the holiday special.

Sometimes I think EA and Disney are having a bet to see who can ruin Star Wars the fastest.

On 1/6/2018 at 2:11 AM, Hobojebus said:

Pfft star citizen is a scam it's a game that'll never come out it makes too much money in development.

Also doesn't change the fact roberts went to EA (a publisher he'd been successful with previously) before going crowdfunded and they said, "no, theres no market for it"

3 hours ago, Ralgon said:

Also doesn't change the fact roberts went to EA (a publisher he'd been successful with previously) before going crowdfunded and they said, "no, theres no market for it"

Well if he'd said upfront it was going to be a game that never comes out but you have to pay anyway there wouldn't of been.

Elite went into development like a year after and has been released for two years on pc and is now on consoles.

At what point do you have to accept they'd lose money if it was ever finished?

Star Wars is probably gonna get shelved with Tron, and every book and movie perma taken off the shelves, and anyone making youtube videos with anything SW will be taken done with a community strike after what happened with Ep8.

1 hour ago, Hobojebus said:

Well if he'd said upfront it was going to be a game that never comes out but you have to pay anyway there wouldn't of been.

Elite went into development like a year after and has been released for two years on pc and is now on consoles.

At what point do you have to accept they'd lose money if it was ever finished?

Way to miss the point.

Despite the financial success of both SC and elite EA's stance is that space flight sims aren't worth their time or money.

10 hours ago, Ralgon said:

Way to miss the point.

Despite the financial success of both SC and elite EA's stance is that space flight sims aren't worth their time or money.

At no point was I ever addressing EA I was always having a dig at star citizen.

22 hours ago, Black Knight Leader said:

Star Wars is probably gonna get shelved with Tron, and every book and movie perma taken off the shelves, and anyone making youtube videos with anything SW will be taken done with a community strike after what happened with Ep8.

1 hour ago, mithril2098 said:

Proof? You realize how bad the movie is doing right? Not only is jumanji doing better, it completely bombed in China, and the Solo movie is already been leaked as a disaster by people working on it. Tron was doing better and it got perma shelved.

You relize the Rebels tv series is garabage and it is doing bad right?

You realize the comics are ultra garbage, at best they have a Vader comic that is mildly entertaining, in truth it is random garbage that is basically a book all about "What can Vader kill in a day"? Marvel had done so bad with SW comics that image comics is now making some SW comics, and though they are garabe too, they are doing better than the marvel sw comics.

You realize the SW games, excluding ffg X-Wing, are garbage right? They are nothing but dissapointing play to win bs junk that ether have zero stories, or stories that are marketed deceptivily, like we were supposed to get a Imperial story in SWBF2EA instead we get another psycho woman / imperial traitior, that up till that point, fanatically loves their allies, and then up and happily kills all their allies, happily embraces enemies that they loath, just look at the Inferno Squad novel it shows just how much Iden hates Liea, yet she is her pet in this story, and on top of that she shows no grief for the loss of her dad and just up and has a romantic moment in the end of the game, even though the guy shes kills in the end was her romantic interest in the novel.