3 minutes ago, Force Majeure said:@RogueLeader42 Where is that image/page from? Looks like a book I'd want in my collection.
It's from the YT-1300 Manual
https://www.amazon.de/Millennium-Falcon-Manual-Corellian-Freighter/dp/0857330969
In Legends the single Laser Cannon is the stock armament of the YT-1300.
6 hours ago, DagobahDave said:It helps tell a story -- the appearance of the ship tells us a lot about its owners and the passage of time -- and it will sell a lot of toys.
48 minutes ago, Marinealver said:
May The 4th has been around longer than I've been alive. You're not gonna hock a narrative about it being a Disney thing, are you?
5 hours ago, RogueLeader42 said:As a Legends fan I can only say:
Nothing new
And I'd be glad if it got confirmed that the YT-1300 is still as modular in Disney Canon as it is in Legends Canon.
Eeeeeeexactly. It's very cool to see this.
7 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:May The 4th has been around longer than I've been alive. You're not gonna hock a narrative about it being a Disney thing, are you?
Not sure where he said anything about Disney.
Star Wars has been all over the merchandising from Day 1, they practically invented the action figure. It's A Thing. It's a huge part of how GL made the money he did, because he retained the merch rights and leveraged that **** like no one had before.
3 hours ago, NotBatman said:Not sure where he said anything about Disney.
Star Wars has been all over the merchandising from Day 1, they practically invented the action figure. It's A Thing. It's a huge part of how GL made the money he did, because he retained the merch rights and leveraged that **** like no one had before.
Absolutely. I'm just used to Alver finding new ways to push a pessimistic narrative, is all.
I hate the "it's made to sell toys" argument every time anything different or original shows up.
I guess some people would prefer all the movies to use the vehicle pool from ANH, the same two planets, and characters who never change clothes.
Yes, Lucas was inviting toy manufacturers on the set as far back as TESB, but they weren't rewriting his scripts, just looking at stuff to have it on the shelves ASAP. You are mistaking the cause and effect. Huge creativity that defines Star Wars (let's forget the sequels) makes the toys a natural, although profitable, side effect - but it's just that, a side effect.
Edited by eMeMI don't mean to imply that I think they do anything *just* for merchandising.
I'm a big fan of most of the new stuff but since that marketing angle exploded, that has to be a part of the equation somewhere.
(That said, I think Krennick's shuttle is pushing things - it's ugly as a butt and there is a perfectly appropriate shuttle already available that I never get tired of seeing.)
If the lego Kessel Run falcon is legit then it seems like the mandibles on the YT-1300 are modifiable or even removable. This means that the YT-1300 could have a saucer like configuration like the YT-2400 and the YT-2400 could have a mandible version like the Falcon.
Pretty cool!
Lego versions usually alter the design some for part count, weight, and playability purposes. unless info come out to say otherwise, i'd assume the cargo module is meant to fit between the mandibles of the Falcon's we've seen in all 5 films it has appeared in so far, and that the lego set represents a simplification.
11 hours ago, mithril2098 said:Lego versions usually alter the design some for part count, weight, and playability purposes. unless info come out to say otherwise, i'd assume the cargo module is meant to fit between the mandibles of the Falcon's we've seen in all 5 films it has appeared in so far, and that the lego set represents a simplification.
With the better quality images, it looks like there is indeed an extended cargo module that looks to be removable. I had originally thought that the front was looking wrong with the stud spacing, but my old eyes see the issue now.
This is a variant of the 2015 Lego Force Awakens Falcon.
That dish sitting almost flush with the hull is totally stolen from concept art:
same with the ‘two red dice’ single barrel turret
On 1/6/2018 at 2:42 PM, NotBatman said:T hat said, I think Krennick's shuttle is pushing things - it's ugly as a butt and there is a perfectly appropriate shuttle already available that I never get tired of seeing.)
Krennic having his own shuttle makes sense narratively
While the empire at large is defined by mass produced designs, the head honchos are a wildly different bunch each with their own particular presence. The Lambda (from its OT appearences) is basically Vader and Palpatine's shuttle outside Tydirium. Krennic, with his massive ego and desire to stand out (white uniform, black death troopers exact opposites of imperial standards) would definitely have his own shuttle.
But yes, I have to agree it looks really REALLY dumb
Now the problem with the "new" falcon is (I predict) that the falcon is TOO ICONIC for Disney to risk making changes to. Even though it'd make sense for it to be in a newer sleeker shape before Hans adventures, we're probably getting bare minimal (if any) changes resulting basically in repackaged merchandise
Still, here's hoping they've put some thought into the look of the pre-solo falcon
For a Playboy entrepreneur like Lando, I'd imagine a YT gilded out like a luxury craft before Han gets in and strips all the frills to make room for more practical (and... unconventional) tech
Edited by ficklegreendice43 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:Krennic having his own shuttle makes sense narratively
While the empire at large is defined by mass produced designs, the head honchos are a wildly different bunch each with their own particular presence. The Lambda (from its OT appearences) is basically Vader and Palpatine's shuttle outside Tydirium. Krennic, with his massive ego and desire to stand out (white uniform, black death troopers exact opposites of imperial standards) would definitely have his own shuttle.
But yes, I have to agree it looks really REALLY dumb
Now the problem with the "new" falcon is (I predict) that the falcon is TOO ICONIC for Disney to risk making changes to. Even though it'd make sense for it to be in a newer sleeker shape before Hans adventures, we're probably getting bare minimal (if any) changes resulting basically in repackaged merchandise
Still, here's hoping they've put some thought into the look of the pre-solo falcon
For a Playboy entrepreneur like Lando, I'd imagine a YT gilded out like a luxury craft before Han gets in and strips all the frills to make room for more practical (and... unconventional) tech
We have seen the hallway and the cockpit of the *new* falcon so far...
Knowing Lando, he's put a mini bar somewhere in that "Hunk of Junk"...
Lando!
On 1/5/2018 at 1:50 PM, RogueLeader42 said:As a Legends fan I can only say:
Nothing new
And I'd be glad if it got confirmed that the YT-1300 is still as modular in Disney Canon as it is in Legends Canon.
Whilst the one on the top right certainly looks like it, I can't help but feel the one in the film is too thin at the front.
if you remove the middle section, exposing the two freight prongs, it doesn't leave enough thickness for the prongs to look anything like the original.
It's almost like they are telling fans, "hey, don't worry about it, Han is going to smash the entire front section of the YT to bits doing "a few maneuvers", have Chewbacca rebuild it completely, make the prongs thicker and THEN name it the M/F because it's no longer what ever the **** it was called before he wrecked it. Oh and here is the "Special Modifications" that Han made to it."
It's definitely a completely different front end from the classic appearance of the Falcon. It tapers to a point then has the flat front. It's almost certainly not some kind of modular pod.
My guess is still the same one I've always had: That if this is the Falcon, it will get damaged or modified at some point, and the iconic front end will be the new version. One might even be so bold as to guess that the modification will factor into the third act of the film and that shape will be meaningful. Because Disney seems like they'd love nothing more than a "See? That's why it looks like that" origin story for a space ship, lol.
2 hours ago, patox said:
Very nice !
Source ?
On 08/01/2018 at 10:08 PM, GrimmyV said:That dish sitting almost flush with the hull is totally stolen from concept art:
The old canon made it pretty clear that one of the most significant upgrades Han made to the Falcon was beefing up the armament.
1 hour ago, Nehekharan said:Very nice !
Source ?
It does say "The Star Wars show" all over...
4 hours ago, patox said:
Looking closely, where the mandibles 'should' be based on the OT look seems to have a bit of blurring, like someone airbrushed out some seams. And it is clear this ship has all its hull panels, while the OT falcon is displaying a lot of its internal structure in the mandible area.
This has me thinking the bit at the bow is actually some kind of disguised cargo module, or maybe even a small ship, that can be ejected and docked back. The old EU actually had a fighter like that (it originated as a toy. Looking.. Guess there were two such craft )
They've done a good job, in general, in reverse engining what a 'proper' YT1300 looks like.. The OT Falcon ends up looking like an old jalopy.. Missing half its hull plating, and with patchwork mods all over. Exactly what it was supposed to be, from character dialog.
Edited by mithril2098
recent star wars twitter account post includes a GIF of a Falcon miniature from the production..
if you look close, the nose bit looks to be an extension, with seams right where the the mandibles ought to be.. and those seams look like they are borders between parts, not just plating. so i think the "the nose is a module" idea is reinforced.. it just is harder to tell because this Falcon has all its plating over the mandibles, while the OT version didn't.
1 hour ago, mithril2098 said:recent star wars twitter account post includes a GIF of a Falcon miniature from the production..
if you look close, the nose bit looks to be an extension, with seams right where the the mandibles ought to be.. and those seams look like they are borders between parts, not just plating. so i think the "the nose is a module" idea is reinforced.. it just is harder to tell because this Falcon has all its plating over the mandibles, while the OT version didn't.
Hmm. The general theory I've seen on the nose pod is that we'll see it lost/destroyed during the movie. But what if that pod factors into Han "dumping" that load of spice that got him in debt to Jabba?
i think this film is set way to early for that. Han looks to be in his 20's, and he was in his 30's in ANH, so we're looking at 10BBY at least. the dialog in the jabba scene in ANH:SE makes it sound like the spice dump was only a few jobs before he took on obiwan, Luke, and the droids as passengers in 0BBY.. 1BBY at the most for that.
more likely the module will play a role in the heist this film will focus on. possibly carrying specialty equipment, or something.