28 minutes ago, WigTii said:

Why stop at 3? Add a few more and create Thrawn's Seventh Fleet.

The Chimaera plus 5 ISD's, 2 Interdictors, and 2 Arquitens cruisers will give you his fleet from the Battle of Atollon. You might need a few more ships though if you want to replicate his fleet from Legends materials.

I am settling for the 96th Task Force...

Got a bead on 2 more Arqs to make it happen.

2 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

I am settling for the 96th Task Force...

Got a bead on 2 more Arqs to make it happen.

Cool! What are you using for the frigates?

At the moment - nothing. Ignoring them (They're on High Observation Duty!) and concentrating on just what was involved in the firefight at Batonn.

Because it can fit into 400 points and be very thematic

As seen:

[ EMPIRE FLEET (390 points)
1 • Imperial I-class Star Destroyer - Grand Admiral Thrawn - Skilled First Officer (Commander Faro) - Gunnery Team - Entrapment Formation! - Heavy Turbolaser Turrets - Chimaera (165)
2 • Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (Shyrak) - Reinforced Blast Doors (59)
3 • Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (Flensor) - Reinforced Blast Doors (59)
4 • Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (Tumnor) - Reinforced Blast Doors (59)
5 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
6 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
7 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
8 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
9 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
10 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)

2 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

At the moment - nothing. Ignoring them (They're on High Observation Duty!) and concentrating on just what was involved in the firefight at Batonn.

Because it can fit into 400 points and be very thematic

Thematic works for me...that's how I play. I'd like to see your list if you don't mind sharing it.

Just now, WigTii said:

Thematic works for me...that's how I play. I'd like to see your list if you don't mind sharing it.

Beat you to it

Just now, Drasnighta said:

Beat you to it

I see that. lol.

3 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

As seen:

[ EMPIRE FLEET (390 points)
1 • Imperial I-class Star Destroyer - Grand Admiral Thrawn - Skilled First Officer (Commander Faro) - Gunnery Team - Entrapment Formation! - Heavy Turbolaser Turrets - Chimaera (165)
2 • Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (Shyrak) - Reinforced Blast Doors (59)
3 • Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (Flensor) - Reinforced Blast Doors (59)
4 • Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (Tumnor) - Reinforced Blast Doors (59)
5 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
6 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
7 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
8 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
9 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)
10 • TIE Fighter Squadron (8)

I like it! Minimal thematically correct upgrades with a sufficient number of squadrons. Have you played it?

Just now, WigTii said:

I like it! Minimal thematically correct upgrades with a sufficient number of squadrons. Have you played it?

A Variation that had QBTs instead of RBDs on the Arqs... It won its game, but I overshot my Arq maneuvers by a turn and thus missed out on the QBT shots - so really, I figured I could go without them and went for Survivabulity instead.

11 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

A Variation that had QBTs instead of RBDs on the Arqs... It won its game, but I overshot my Arq maneuvers by a turn and thus missed out on the QBT shots - so really, I figured I could go without them and went for Survivabulity instead.

Have you considered dual turbolaser turrets to give the cruiser more long range pop from the forward arc?

Just now, WigTii said:

Have you considered dual turbolaser turrets to give the cruiser more long range pop from the forward arc?

No, its either QBT or RBD for me... I already roll horrid Red Dice... Why Roll Another that'll just roll a blank... That's like... No effect for 5 points on one shot.

QBT, if I'm setting up double arcs, is not only a more reliable die, its on both shots .

2 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

QBT, if I'm setting up double arcs, is not only a more reliable die, its on both shots .

With QBT, do you run your cruisers at speed 2?

1 minute ago, WigTii said:

With QBT, do you run your cruisers at speed 2?

Let's take it here:

4 hours ago, Karneck said:

Do i really need a 3rd ISD by buying Chimera?

Yes. Yes I do.

Of course! It is possible to play all 3 of them in 400 points as well.

Or

[ flagship ] Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Admiral Screed ( 26 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 77 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

2 TIE Fighter Squadrons ( 16 points)

2 hours ago, Jabby said:

Or

[ flagship ] Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Admiral Screed ( 26 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 77 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

2 TIE Fighter Squadrons ( 16 points)

Why ACM over APT? Just curious.

Just now, ryanabt said:

Why ACM over APT? Just curious.

To ensure a minimum bid. I mean, raiders LOVE going 2nd

22 minutes ago, ryanabt said:

Why ACM over APT? Just curious.

I dont think it matters they could both work

After thinking about it i realize that, once the sheilds are down acms are lethal but if you cant take down the sheilds the apts are better. ACMs however do take down sheilds quickly

I think ACMs get better the more platforms you have throwing them- APTs are always good, but at some point (around the third or fourth ship throwing mitigated black dice) ACMs overtake them in terms of how very, very bad getting hit repeatedly by black crits becomes.

2 minutes ago, OlaphOfTheNorth said:

I think ACMs get better the more platforms you have throwing them- APTs are always good, but at some point (around the third or fourth ship throwing mitigated black dice) ACMs overtake them in terms of how very, very bad getting hit repeatedly by black crits becomes.

I think it also comes down to your target. Against a large target your statement is true because you need, lets say, 11 APT+rams to kill the ISD as it can shield/redirect a lot of damage. Against smaller targets, your APT gets better as you only need 4 (essentially two ships) or 8 (roughly three ships) hitting with APT and ramming.

For raider spam, this list got me pretty far in the last vassal tournament. It even managed to one shot a flotilla at long range.

Commander: Moff Jerjerrod
Assault Objective: Opening Salvo
Defense Objective: Capture the VIP
Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory

[ flagship ] Raider-II Class Corvette (48 points)
- Moff Jerjerrod ( 23 points)
- Fire-Control Team ( 2 points)
- Disposable Capacitors ( 3 points)
- Ion Cannon Batteries ( 5 points)
= 81 total ship cost

Raider-II Class Corvette (48 points)
- Fire-Control Team ( 2 points)
- Disposable Capacitors ( 3 points)
- Ion Cannon Batteries ( 5 points)
= 58 total ship cost

Raider-II Class Corvette (48 points)
- Disposable Capacitors ( 3 points)
- Ion Cannon Batteries ( 5 points)
= 56 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 51 total ship cost

2 Firespray-31s ( 36 points)

On 1/2/2018 at 3:47 PM, ryanabt said:

You don't find them on crazy good sales like you do the raider.

Where are you getting your crazy good sale raiders from?

1 minute ago, Thrawn86 said:

Where are you getting your crazy good sale raiders from?

Occasionally amazon, but mainly from store sales around Dallas-Fort Worth.

On 02/01/2018 at 10:31 PM, Ardaedhel said:

I've done a couple of games with dual Quasars. I like them. One was Ruthless Strategists Rhymerball, the other was a Konstantine travesty similar to what Gink is proposing here (mine was squadronless QF/QF/VSD2/R1/R1/R1).

Running my variant on vassal against a max squad imp list. ITS AMAZING, all that flak so closely packed together. First time I've ever really got Raiders working properly.

Konstantine Raiders
Author: Ginkapo

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 391/400

Commander: Admiral Konstantine

Assault Objective: Station Assault
Defense Objective: Contested Outpost
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

Quasar Fire I-class Cruiser-Carrier (54 points)
- Phylon Q7 Tractor Beams ( 6 points)
= 60 total ship cost

[ flagship ] Victory II-Class Star Destroyer (85 points)
- Admiral Konstantine ( 23 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Disposable Capacitors ( 3 points)
- Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)
= 127 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 51 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 51 total ship cost

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