Space Ship Terrain, Toys, Models etc

By DarkTrooperZero, in Star Wars: Legion

29 minutes ago, TheRedSon said:

That’s where I got it. I paid about $15 though (that was the 50% off price).

I wish I had picked up another one now though. Had I known how well it would fit in before opening it I would have.

It’s listed scale is 1:44 btw. Sorry I misquoted. 1:43 is a very standard scale. This is the only model I’ve seen in 1:44. Not that the difference between the two is very great.

Yeah ... I think I had a new cashier. She gave me 40% off for some oils; thinner and mixed medium brushes and, then, applied 50% on top of the clearance price for the model. I did not think much about it at the time. When I got home, I looked at the receipt, as I thought it seemed inexpensive. I bought $60 worth of product and got charged $20 with tax. Considering this same store destroyed a framing project I gave them intended to be a gift to my wife, I took this as karma.

Has no one mentioned Bandai’s AT-ST or snow speeder yet? Both of those models are in 1:48 scale, and they make fantastic kits.

25 minutes ago, TheRedSon said:

Has no one mentioned Bandai’s AT-ST or snow speeder yet? Both of those models are in 1:48 scale, and they make fantastic kits.

I have (in my blog ;)) but that's mostly it if you don't want to stray in different time lines.

12 hours ago, TheRedSon said:

Has no one mentioned Bandai’s AT-ST or snow speeder yet? Both of those models are in 1:48 scale, and they make fantastic kits.

Amended OP, cheers

Ill be looking for an ATAT to get on the table as terrain....I dont want to splash out on something that will look TOO small though (I know it wont be to scale as such but dont want it looking the same height as the FFG ATST either)

Heard the Revell ATAT 1:53 kit is decent? I cant qork out the size but hearing between 30-33cm high?

Is there a Tie-interceptor kit in the right scale?

1 hour ago, VAYASAN said:

Ill be looking for an ATAT to get on the table as terrain....I dont want to splash out on something that will look TOO small though (I know it wont be to scale as such but dont want it looking the same height as the FFG ATST either)

Heard the Revell ATAT 1:53 kit is decent? I cant qork out the size but hearing between 30-33cm high?

Check out the thread about pop corn bucket AT AT

1 hour ago, Lord Tareq said:

Is there a Tie-interceptor kit in the right scale?

Pretty sure there is an AMT snap kit about 1:72 that may work

11 minutes ago, Nihm said:

Check out the thread about pop corn bucket AT AT

Cheers, but I suspect as I am in the UK that shipping would cost a fortune...

2 hours ago, VAYASAN said:

Ill be looking for an ATAT to get on the table as terrain....I dont want to splash out on something that will look TOO small though (I know it wont be to scale as such but dont want it looking the same height as the FFG ATST either)

Heard the Revell ATAT 1:53 kit is decent? I cant qork out the size but hearing between 30-33cm high?

I think 1:53 would be fine. There is an ideal range, and there is a “can’t tell without squinting” range that probably covers anything as big as 1:40 or small as 1:56. That’s my opinion anyway.

If you get your hands on it and it looks too small just bury it’s head in your terrain piece. Hiding or altering the areas you can view the crew through or the places crew would enter will effectively hide a scale discrepancy more often than not.

45 minutes ago, Nihm said:

Check out the thread about pop corn bucket AT AT

This is the only thread that showed up when searching for it... Have a link?

1 hour ago, TheRedSon said:

This is the only thread that showed up when searching for it... Have a link?

3 hours ago, VAYASAN said:

Cheers, but I suspect as I am in the UK that shipping would cost a fortune...

I understand but it also has measurements for the old WotC AT-AT

Thought it might help ya :)

Hi, this fan site here is good for information on compatible scale models. Some great modelling as well.

http://www.rebelscale.com/

1 hour ago, skirmisher said:

Hi, this fan site here is good for information on compatible scale models. Some great modelling as well.

http://www.rebelscale.com/

As someone new to this and always seeking reference reading, great sight. Thank you.

On 06/01/2018 at 12:05 AM, DarkTrooperZero said:

So was out shopping today and came across a discounted Hasbro tie striker, so bought it as you do when things are cheaper than normal.

Here's some photos of it for you. Slightly too big as per the OP but should be fine if used as broken terrain to limit the huge surface area it takes up which is probably the biggest problem at 43x34cm

X-wing tie and striker for size comparisons and space marine for cockpit scale.

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TIE Reaper just released in SWX :)

That would work with slight mods! !

Yeah saw that. Add a top wing thing and pretty right to go and count the cockpit as a variation.

At the size it is looks about the right scale for a ship around maybe 30% bigger than a striker.

Still think it might be too big for terrain though, its area is huge.

Any new additions to this list?

The Hasbro built Millenium Falcon scales in nicely for Legion although I couldn't get used to the thought of seeing a battle taking place on top of it and an AT-ST bombarding it as it just sat there. You know Han would have been long gone should an attack have erupted nearby. He left Mos Eisley fled Hoth. (the going gets tough, the tough get going)

The AT-AT Popcorn Bucket is okay. The elevated platform base for the miniatures really changes the scale once they are beside it. In my opinion it is too nice to destroy so mine either stands off in the distance or lays on its side with the legs carefully wired down using floral wire. (there are a couple of threads out there where they have been turned into really nice looking downed terrain)

The Revell A-Wing fighters are a great scale for Legion.

The Bandai models at 1:48 scale are great looking too. My only problem is the comparison to the FFG AT-ST and T-47. The FFG AT-ST is noticeably larger and the FFG T-47 is noticeably smaller. Which asks the question of, which scale is movie accurate? Either way they all look great in detail.

In general most Hasbro pieces fit pretty well with a few exceptions. But broken down to make damaged terrain it is tough to notice. Models are a hit or miss in my opinion because scales vary from 1/144, 1/72, 1/53, 1/48, 1/44, 1/43... ect and alot of times the scale is not specified on the box. Thankfully there are people as stated earlier who have have done the homework to help us know which ones will work on the table.

On 5/22/2018 at 2:31 PM, byrns said:

Any new additions to this list?

Hi, have bought and built a few toy/model kits since I created this, will update soon

I have a Hasbro AT-AT (the big $200 one), as well as a Disney popcorn bucket. The popcorn bucket is a lot more practical, but the Hasbro version is a lot closer to scale

On 5/22/2018 at 9:54 AM, C3POFETT said:

The Bandai models at 1:48 scale are great looking too. My only problem is the comparison to the FFG AT-ST and T-47. The FFG AT-ST is noticeably larger and the FFG T-47 is noticeably smaller. Which asks the question of, which scale is movie accurate? Either way they all look great in detail.

It depends. In the movies they often did not keep strict adherence to scales between the full size set pieces, and the various miniatures.

In some cases, the filming models (like the A-Wing and Snowspeeder) actually had to chop off the legs or only use partial figures to fit inside them which makes scaling it to actually fit a real person harder.

A great example of changing scales is the AT-AT and Snowspeeders in Empire Strikes back. If you size an AT-AT based on the foot crushing the speeder scene, you get a very different "real world" size compared to some other scenes.

The Bandai AT-ST model is quite accurate based on the studio model, however, the scale of it is kind of guess work. it looks right proportionally compared to the figures inside of it. The Snowspeeder may be a little larger to reconcile actually being able to have someone sit in it for example.

At any rate, the "real world" sizes of these vehicles listed on many sites should probably be taken with a grain of salt. I try to pay attention more to how the vehicles look compared to a figure of that scale to see if it works

Accurate scale has always been a problem in Star Wars. Fine Molds had a 1/72 line before Bandai, and they couldn't come up with a standard size either.

On 1/8/2018 at 6:29 AM, VAYASAN said:

Ill be looking for an ATAT to get on the table as terrain....I dont want to splash out on something that will look TOO small though (I know it wont be to scale as such but dont want it looking the same height as the FFG ATST either)

Heard the Revell ATAT 1:53 kit is decent? I cant qork out the size but hearing between 30-33cm high?

The Revell kit is pretty much a 1/72 kit. It will look small compared to a 1/48 speeder

It also is missing armor plating for the head which makes it look kind of odd. It's not too hard to scratch build them add them back on though.

This is a pic of it with a 1/72 speeder vs the Revell 1/53 to 1/58 range speeder

1/72 is on the left

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If anyone is interested, I could snap some pics of it alongside of the Bandai 1/48 stuff and some Legion stuff

Bandai

X-Wing 1/48. Wings are motorized to open and close, and it comes with a built in lighting kit. The lighting and motors only work when it is sitting plugged into it's stand. It can easily be removed from the stand tough and you can change it out between landing gears down or up on the fly. The model is based on the X-Wings models used in A New Hope and is quite accurate. Downside is it can be pricey due to having the electronics

AT-ST 1/48 all joints are is fully poseable, you can have hatches open or closed, guns are fully poseable. It is actually a very impressively engineered kit. Noticeably smaller than the FFG AT-ST. Has a Chewbacca figure that can be posed in the hatch as well as two imperial drivers

Snowspeeder 1/48. Pretty much the same size as the Fine Molds one, however much ore accurate shape wise. Canopy has option of glass in, or no glass (like the filming miniatures). Can also be posed open or close. Has airflap/airbrake parts that can swapped out to get different positions and has a optional tow cable deployed

Fine Molds - These are all out of production under the Fine Molds name, but you can regularly find them on E-Bay and other such sites. Unfortunately people tend to overcharge for these, but if patient, you can find a good deal. Howver, as far as the SnowSpeeder, Bandai's are better, easier to find and cheaper. Revell has re-released them under their "Master Series" brand. Although still kind of pricey. You can distinguish these from the other Revell stuff because these kits are glue kits unlike Revell's

Tie Fighter 1/48 it the listed scale, but again, it depends on whether you consider the studio model to be a 1/24 scale model or a 1/16 scale model. If 1/24, then the model is closer to 1/72 scale. Either way, the figure inside of it is a 1/48 figure. Has a 1/48 standing figure of an imperial officer

X-Wing 1/48 (it is pretty much the same szie as the Bandai 1/48 X-Wing so at least they agree). Can be built in either landed or in flight position. Has a standalone 1/48 R2-D2 figure in addition to the R2- unit sitting in the droid strip behind the cockpit. The model is based mainly on the larger Return Of The Jedi filming model that was made. As such, it has slightly different shapes and proportions when compared to the Bandai X-Wings. Most noticeable in the rear of the cockpit canopy area

Snowspeeder 1/48


MPC/AMT/ERTL - These are all out of production, but you can regularly find them on E-Bay and other such sites

Twin Tie Fighter pack (1/51). The figure inside are very close to 1/48, but scale of course depends on what size you consider the studio model or real world tie to be. They are oon the smaller side, but would not look too out of place.

Tie Interceptor (1/51 ) in scale with the twin Tie Fighter pack

A-Wing (1/53) It depends on how large you consider the A-Wing. If scaling down from the studio model that used the larger pilot, then 1/53 is correct. If scaling down from the FFG one, then this is closer to a 1/67 model. At any rate, I used a 1/48 pilot in mine and he fits fine.

X-Wing 1/43 This is the original X-Wing model that has seen several repackings over the years. it scales nicely with the large Revell Tie fighter and Vader Tie Fighter. While on the larger side for Legion comapred to the 1/48 offerings, it may be cheaper.

Note: There is a smaller snap tite version which is crap

Vulture Droids (1/48) twin pack

Naboo Starfighter 1/48

Revell

Resistance A-Wing 1/44

Resistance X-Wing (Poe's version, or the regular Blue striped one ) 1/50. Note this is the larger "Level 2" kit version, not the smaller "Sound and play" or "Build and Play" version which are closer to 1/58

Tie Fighter (the larger easy Kit version 06675) Revell listed it as 1/57, but the pilot in there is closer to 1/40 or even larger. This scale is based on the studio model being a 1/24 model, not a 1/16 model. If looks right to me with anything in the 1/43 to 1/48 range. I think this is the best tie size wise to pair with Legion stuff

NOTE: There is a smaller tie kit Revell has rebranded a few times. It is closer to 1/72 scale, but is sometimes listed as 1/110 scale which is way off and seems just pulled at random. Part of that may be that the other "pocket" Tie Interceptor and Vader Tie kits were close to that scale

Darth Vader Tie fighter (the larger easy kit version, not the small pocket kit one). This is a little larger, but very close in scale to the Tie Fighter kit. The Vader figure in the kit is closer to a 1/36 model, but he is also oversized for the model itself. At any rate, this is probably the best match for Legion stuff

Jedi Interceptor 1/55 on the small side for Legion, but not too bad. Note these are the pocket kit version. There is a larger 1/24 version

Kenner/Hasbro

Slave-1 the 2010 Clone Wars version or the 2013 Kenner one are pretty spot on for 1/48 despite being made for the 3/4" action figures

Imperial Shuttle is also close to 1/48. The old Kenner one is actually close to a studio scale model. This also makes them quite expensive sometimes. best bet is finding an incomplete one and then replacing parts with scratch built pieces

The U-Wing is also pretty spot on for 1/48

Also the "Rebels" Millennium Falcon was 1/48. It can be hard to find though and can sometimes be quite expensive. Also the plastic it is made from can make it difficult for paint or glue to stick to it unless you prime it first with an automotive adhesion promoter (like the kind you would use for car bumpers before painting them)

Edited by blakeh1
8 hours ago, blakeh1 said:

It depends. In the movies they often did not keep strict adherence to scales between the full size set pieces, and the various miniatures.

In some cases, the filming models (like the A-Wing and Snowspeeder) actually had to chop off the legs or only use partial figures to fit inside them which makes scaling it to actually fit a real person harder.

A great example of changing scales is the AT-AT and Snowspeeders in Empire Strikes back. If you size an AT-AT based on the foot crushing the speeder scene, you get a very different "real world" size compared to some other scenes.

The Bandai AT-ST model is quite accurate based on the studio model, however, the scale of it is kind of guess work. it looks right proportionally compared to the figures inside of it. The Snowspeeder may be a little larger to reconcile actually being able to have someone sit in it for example.

At any rate, the "real world" sizes of these vehicles listed on many sites should probably be taken with a grain of salt. I try to pay attention more to how the vehicles look compared to a figure of that scale to see if it works

Accurate scale has always been a problem in Star Wars. Fine Molds had a 1/72 line before Bandai, and they couldn't come up with a standard size either.

The Revell kit is pretty much a 1/72 kit. It will look small compared to a 1/48 speeder

It also is missing armor plating for the head which makes it look kind of odd. It's not too hard to scratch build them add them back on though.

This is a pic of it with a 1/72 speeder vs the Revell 1/53 to 1/58 range speeder

1/72 is on the left

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If anyone is interested, I could snap some pics of it alongside of the Bandai 1/48 stuff and some Legion stuff

Yep cheers, had one roaming my tables for a while now ?

10 hours ago, blakeh1 said:

It depends. In the movies they often did not keep strict adherence to scales between the full size set pieces, and the various miniatures.

In some cases, the filming models (like the A-Wing and Snowspeeder) actually had to chop off the legs or only use partial figures to fit inside them which makes scaling it to actually fit a real person harder.

A great example of changing scales is the AT-AT and Snowspeeders in Empire Strikes back. If you size an AT-AT based on the foot crushing the speeder scene, you get a very different "real world" size compared to some other scenes.

The Bandai AT-ST model is quite accurate based on the studio model, however, the scale of it is kind of guess work. it looks right proportionally compared to the figures inside of it. The Snowspeeder may be a little larger to reconcile actually being able to have someone sit in it for example.

At any rate, the "real world" sizes of these vehicles listed on many sites should probably be taken with a grain of salt. I try to pay attention more to how the vehicles look compared to a figure of that scale to see if it works

Accurate scale has always been a problem in Star Wars. Fine Molds had a 1/72 line before Bandai, and they couldn't come up with a standard size either.

The Revell kit is pretty much a 1/72 kit. It will look small compared to a 1/48 speeder

It also is missing armor plating for the head which makes it look kind of odd. It's not too hard to scratch build them add them back on though.

This is a pic of it with a 1/72 speeder vs the Revell 1/53 to 1/58 range speeder

1/72 is on the left

n9u8zcsm.jpg

If anyone is interested, I could snap some pics of it alongside of the Bandai 1/48 stuff and some Legion stuff

I am very interested to see those pics!