I am playing a game against my brother tonight or tomorrow and I think I have a solid list thought out.

Poe Dameron [PS 8] T-70 X-wing (31), Integrated Astromech (0), Black One (1), Push the Limit (3), BB-8 (2)

Rey YT-1300 (45), Millennium Falcon [HotR] (1), Expertise (4), Kanan Jarrus (3), Finn (5)

This comes out to a total of 95 squad points.

Should I put Countermeasures or Engine Upgrade on Rey? I dont know which is going to be more worth my points. I think Engine Upgrade would be better because I don't have Scavenger Crane to get my Countermeasures back. Or is there another option that is better than both?

Does Poe need a tech upgrade? I can take Primed Thrusters, Weapons Guidance, or Pattern Analyser.

I appreciate anyone's help.

Any particular reason for PS 8 Poe?

donyou and your brother proxy cards at all? If so, I recommend either PS 9 Poe with Intensity, Black 1, BB8, Autothrusters, Primed Thrusters; or Veteran Instincts, Black One, BB8, Autothrusters, and Advanced Optics.

If you are limited to the tech and elite pilot talents you mentioned above, i’d recommend Pattern Analyzer.

The Rey build you have is fairly standard. Personally, I like Countermeasures over Engine upgrade, but given you’re using expertise on Rey, using your action for boost can come in handy to keep enemies in arc.

I’d put engine upgrade on Rey and swap Expertice for push the limit.

I also like this build. Both pilots are at PS10. I like keeping the pilot skills the same to give some flexibility with who will move/fire first. With Bitsan and Mercenary Copilot you will always be able to flip a hit to a crit no matter which range you are at when firing. Finn is good but he only triggers when you are in arc and he’s expensive.

I've found Poe and Rey to lack in staying power. It's a difficult list to fly but it sure can hit hard.

I like engine upgrade on Rey, a boost on big ships is far too helpful to pass up; especially on Rey to keep things in arc.

VI, adv optics, and autothrusters on Poe. Countermeasures on Rey.

If just sticking with your cards, then primed thrusters on poe so he can always BB8, and Engines on rey to arc dodge out if trouble.

44 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

Any particular reason for PS 8 Poe?

donyou and your brother proxy cards at all? If so, I recommend either PS 9 Poe with Intensity, Black 1, BB8, Autothrusters, Primed Thrusters; or Veteran Instincts, Black One, BB8, Autothrusters, and Advanced Optics.

If you are limited to the tech and elite pilot talents you mentioned above, i’d recommend Pattern Analyzer.

The Rey build you have is fairly standard. Personally, I like Countermeasures over Engine upgrade, but given you’re using expertise on Rey, using your action for boost can come in handy to keep enemies in arc.

I don't mind making proxy cards, Intensity just bothers me because it only works when you have it unexhausted.

I am not using the pilot skill 9 Poe because I can confirm that my brother is flying Scum. Based on his normal playing style, I know he will have mid pilot skill ships without Veteran Instincts and with lots of uneccesary upgrades that he won't need...he is 12 after all.

21 minutes ago, wurms said:

VI, adv optics, and autothrusters on Poe. Countermeasures on Rey.

If just sticking with your cards, then primed thrusters on poe so he can always BB8, and Engines on rey to arc dodge out if trouble.

I have Countermeasures, I guess it is more worth taking that?

I don't think the 5-point init bid is useful. I suggest Autothrusters on Poe, and also switching to the PS 9 version.

7 minutes ago, AwesomeJedi said:

I have Countermeasures, I guess it is more worth taking that?

Yes, countermeasures is worth it, especially on rey, cuz her ability allows multiple rerolls on every attack against her in arc. One use of CM, can drastically change a fight when you trade like 1 shield of rey from three attacks for 4 HP from one of their ships.

This is my preferred Rey and Poe at the moment. Both at PS 10 with VI but if you know you don't need it, you could easily swap out to Crack Shot or your preferred 1 Pt EPT.

YT-1300: •Rey (60)

Smuggling Compartment (0)

Counter-Measures (3)

•Millennium Falcon (HotR) (1)

Veteran Instincts (1)

•Kanan Jarrus (3)

•Finn (5)

Glitterstim (2)

T-70 X-Wing: •Poe Dameron (39)

Autothrusters (2)

•Black One (1)

Veteran Instincts (1)

•BB-8 (2)

Advanced Optics (2)

Total: 99/100

I think this DOES have the staying power with Rey charging in to tank the first volley popping Counter and Glitter together. She will have a psuedo 3 agility (CM and Finn) with rerolls and unlimited focus.

Poe wants to arc dodge with Autothrusters. After he charges up his focus token he is free to target lock or boost when needed.

So here's my thoughts: I love the combination, particularly as a nice thematic pairing. I also like Rey as you have her - I would use Smuggling Compartment, Scavenger Crane, Countermeasures on her after that. As long as you have your enemy in arc, especially with the CM/SC, she is crazy survivable.

As for Poe, I am of the mind that the most effective build these days is either PS9 w/ Intensity, BB-8, Primed Thrusters, Black One, AT, or (in my mind the best option) either Poe with VI, Advanced Optics, Black One, AT, and BB-8 or FAA.

Yes! Fly this list!

I've been playing a Poe/Rey build ever since TLJ came out!

Still haven't figured Poe out fully, but I'm leaning towards the Optics/PTL PS9 Poe (with BB-8 of course, for thematic fluff). Optics means that if you resist the temptation to spend that focus, you don't even really care about stress.

Why Expertise? Why??? So many people do that, and it's a huge trap. Rey needs that PS10, and she doesn't really care about action efficiency because she focuses on the attack and focus doesn't help her much on defense. She never target locks because she gets all the rerolls she needs. Almost all other aces need PTL, so they're stuck at PS9. Rey's only hope against them is that PS10.

Also, Chewbacca crew is maybe better than Kanan. I'm not kidding. I picked it to be thematic, and it actually really helps against Kylo and helps Rey avoid any particularly nasty critical hits. Plus, two hitpoints for 4 squadpoints is nothing to sneer at.

I'm probably just an enourmous Rey fanboy at this point, which is why it makes me a little sad that she can be an NPE to play against. My last four games, she wasn't ever even dealt a damage card (the games all ended with her still having shields and Chewie)!

20 minutes ago, Greebwahn said:

So here's my thoughts: I love the combination, particularly as a nice thematic pairing. I also like Rey as you have her - I would use Smuggling Compartment, Scavenger Crane, Countermeasures on her after that. As long as you have your enemy in arc, especially with the CM/SC, she is crazy survivable.

As for Poe, I am of the mind that the most effective build these days is either PS9 w/ Intensity, BB-8, Primed Thrusters, Black One, AT, or (in my mind the best option) either Poe with VI, Advanced Optics, Black One, AT, and BB-8 or FAA.

Countermeasures/scavenger crane is definitely a great combo. It makes a very point heavy ship hard to kill.

As for Poe, the advanced optics build is much more effective overall(IMHO). Perma-focused Poe is tough. I prefer the VI/PS11 Poe with FAA or BB-8. The title knocks off TL's, which decimates alpha strike lists. The PS advantage and maneuverability makes him an arc dodger. the list that really hurts it is swarms, or thug life type lists. Those lists tend to be few and far between in the current meta, at least in my area anyway.

@Kieransi Would you please post your squad list so we can see how you build the team?

Counter Measures > Engine Upgrade in my opinion, especially with harpoons everywhere.

I much prefer Expertise as well. Rey hits so incredibly hard when shes ripping up with Expertise and shedding locks.

3 hours ago, AT Leader said:

@Kieransi Would you please post your squad list so we can see how you build the team?

It's kind of a weird one, because I run out of points for modifications on Rey. I think Countermeasures and Scavenger Crane would be great if I had the points, but it just doesn't work with what I have on there. Those Inertial Dampeners actually have their uses though. At PS10, they're some nice reposition. Another thing to note is that all I really cared about when I built it was theme. So I'd rather not have any droid but BB-8, I'd rather not have Kanan on there, and it just doesn't feel right for Rey to be snorting Glitterstim mid-battle (just to use a few examples).

•Rey (57) - YT-1300
Veteran Instincts (1), •Finn (5), •Chewbacca (4), •Millennium Falcon (S-Loop) (1), Smuggling Compartment (0), Inertial Dampeners (1)

•Poe Dameron (PS9) (43) - T-70 X-Wing
Push The Limit (3), •BB-8 (2), Advanced Optics (2), •Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)