Questions from a beginner.

By Amnell2, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Dear all,

I played my first two AGOT games over the weekend and I could do with a bit of clarification on what are bound to be basic rules, but I can't seem to find anything in the rule book.

So here we go..

During challenges, if the defending player has no power tokens, I take it the attacker can not issue a power challenge until such time as the defender has power to take?

During a challenge, can you attack and defend with multiple characters?

If a challenge is issued and a defender has no playable defending characters, because they are knelt, is this an unapposed challenge?

During the draw phase you are allowed to draw two cards into your hand. I take it during this marshalling you are allowed to move cards in and out of play from your hand as well as moving cards into your discard pile if you wish?

Are you allowed to have more then one limited card in play at any one time? The rule book states that you can 'play only one card (of any type) with the 'limited' keyword per round. Does this mean that if I have placed a limited card in previous rounds it can remain in play and I can place an additional limited card, or do I have to swap an in play limited card out in order to place another?

During the marshalling phase, if you place locations, do you need to kneel them or are they considered to be in play and effective from the moment they are placed? As an example, if I place a location such as winterfell castle, is this effective immediately for all my in play characters?

If I place a card that provides and income bonus during a marshalling phase, I take it I do not count that income bonus that round but have to wait until the next marshalling phase to be able to count it?

Cards that are stated as being attached to your house card, I'm assuming these are simply placed slightly bellow and under your house card when played?

Any clarification on the above would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Amnell

Amnell said:

During challenges, if the defending player has no power tokens, I take it the attacker can not issue a power challenge until such time as the defender has power to take?

No you can always declare power challenge as long as you have a character with a power icon. You just dont take anysthing from your opponent so it is good only I you can win some power other way (unopposed, renown) or trigger some abilities after winning power (seductive promise etc.)

Amnell said:

During a challenge, can you attack and defend with multiple characters?

Of course.

Amnell said:

If a challenge is issued and a defender has no playable defending characters, because they are knelt, is this an unapposed challenge?

Yes. And any other challenge when defenders STR = 0. (lower by any efects etc. or not defending at all)

Amnell said:

During the draw phase you are allowed to draw two cards into your hand. I take it during this marshalling you are allowed to move cards in and out of play from your hand as well as moving cards into your discard pile if you wish?

I dont thing I understand this question. In draw phase you draw 2 cards (if not otherwise due to some card effects). Then in marshalling phase you may play any cards from your hand as long as you pay the cost (gold). But you cannost take characters back from play to you hand just so, neighter you can discard a character from hand or play unless some effect allows you to do so.

Amnell said:

Are you allowed to have more then one limited card in play at any one time? The rule book states that you can 'play only one card (of any type) with the 'limited' keyword per round. Does this mean that if I have placed a limited card in previous rounds it can remain in play and I can place an additional limited card, or do I have to swap an in play limited card out in order to place another?

You can play one limited card each round. If you play an otherone in round two the first one stay in play (so in round 7 you can have 7 limited cards in play). Notice also that you can play one limited card in setup and one right during the first marshalling phase. (so after first round you have 2 limited cards in play already)

Amnell said:

During the marshalling phase, if you place locations, do you need to kneel them or are they considered to be in play and effective from the moment they are placed? As an example, if I place a location such as winterfell castle, is this effective immediately for all my in play characters?

All locations are effective right when you play them. The only difference is a gold prodicing location. If you play it you dont get the gold right away (because you count gold only once during marshalling phase - when you become an actvive player, and this must be done before you can play anything). On the other hand a reducer (a location that reduces a cost of something - like Fiefdoms) can be used right in the round you played it since it does not provide a "real" gold only a virtual one.

Amnell said:

If I place a card that provides and income bonus during a marshalling phase, I take it I do not count that income bonus that round but have to wait until the next marshalling phase to be able to count it?

Explained above.

Amnell said:

Cards that are stated as being attached to your house card, I'm assuming these are simply placed slightly bellow and under your house card when played?

Yes, same as with other attachments. You put them under the card the are supposed to be attached. The way you put it under depends just on you. Ussualy there are 2 ways how to put them. Firstly so that only the name of the card can be seen above the card it is attached too (takes less space, but less experience players may forgot about the ability and have to look a often on it), Secondly the way you can see the whole text below the card it is attached to (requires more space but you can see the ability right away).

Rozy said:

Amnell said:

During the draw phase you are allowed to draw two cards into your hand. I take it during this marshalling you are allowed to move cards in and out of play from your hand as well as moving cards into your discard pile if you wish?

I dont thing I understand this question. In draw phase you draw 2 cards (if not otherwise due to some card effects). Then in marshalling phase you may play any cards from your hand as long as you pay the cost (gold). But you cannost take characters back from play to you hand just so, neighter you can discard a character from hand or play unless some effect allows you to do so.

Sorry, I didn't explain the above very well, but you still managed to provide the answer I was after. I didn't realise you cannot take charactersback from play to your hand, I assumed you couldn't as the rule book didn't specifically state it.

Thank you for the clarification. I imagine there will be many more questions along the way.

Amnell said:

I didn't realise you cannot take charactersback from play to your hand, I assumed you couldn't as the rule book didn't specifically state it.

Sorry, I'm a little confused by this statement. You say that you did not know something (cannot take characters back to hand), but that you assumed the same thing (assumed you couldn't - take character back to hand?).

To reiterate, when a card is put into play, it STAYS in play until a game or card effect specifically removes it from play. And in general, the rules of this game will tell you what you can do. Instead of a general mindset of "the rules don't say you can't, so it is allowed," this game follows a general philosophy of "the rules don't say you can, so it is not allowed."