I like the "launcher" idea a lot, which makes me kind of sad we didn't see a "Trajectory Simulator"-like bomb launch in the movie. I like the opening scene, but seriously, you coud have a g*dd*mn Space Trebuchet moment laid out for you!

In this case, I advocate a third group: The resistance only uses Ordnance Silos on their Bombers, thus flying a very boring version of what is possible on the frame.

Well if they are fired using magnets why not simply change orientation while keeping forward momentum and fire at range, sheer volume would saturate the path in front of your target and allow you to keep at distance.

Needing to get right over a ship in the good still makes no sense.

Yeah, if anything that little bit of lore actually makes it make less sense.

12 hours ago, PhantomFO said:

I don't understand why people are upset about the bomb dropping down in TLJ, and yet they never complained about the TIE Bombers doing the same thing in Empire when they were bombing the asteroids.

Watch ESB again

The TIE Bomber bombs are pretty clearly launched, "dropping" much faster than if they were gravity-dropped

Me I'd of had the doors be on the front of the pilon not the base two or four sections that open up once in range.

Then instead of a ladder rack upon rack of long range torpedoes.

5 hours ago, __underscore__ said:

I don't understand why they have the issue when they didn't care that a human being fell down a ladder about a meter away from where the bombs were hanging.

This.

The ship's full of artificial gravity. Anything in that field accelerates downwards like a certain unfortunate member of the bomber crew.

36 minutes ago, Firespray-32 said:

This.

The ship's full of artificial gravity. Anything in that field accelerates downwards like a certain unfortunate member of the bomber crew.

Exactly. The bombs could fall because they are inside the ship's artificial gravity field when they are released. Once outside the ship, they maintain their speed and direction. I never saw any problem with that in the movie.
Come on, they can walk around inside ships! That means that they have mastered gravity fields for years (or millennia, by looking at KOTOR). Why would that be a problem now?

14 hours ago, PhantomFO said:

I don't understand why people are upset about the bomb dropping down in TLJ, and yet they never complained about the TIE Bombers doing the same thing in Empire when they were bombing the asteroids.

I think you'll find there were plenty of people that said it was a bit weird.

Wait. Why was the crew member not sucked into space?

2 minutes ago, LifeGain said:

Wait. Why was the crew member not sucked into space?

Vacuums can't go up.

Becauze Star Wars.

Also want to state for the record...ships have shields. We have no idea what effect shields have on atmosphere. They might serve as an extension of the ships hull and contain some amoint of oxygen and atompsheric pressure.

Which would explain why Leia doesnt immediatly die when she is in space and why Bomber pilots dont get sucked into space every run.

Most imporantly though....

BECAUSE STAR WARS

Let us all remeber that this is the same universe where a dude can force push people and Kylo can force stop laser blaster fire. Also...people can force project themselves and little Green Wizard Goblin Hobbit Ghosts exist lighting trees on fire while trolling sad Luke for being a failure. .

Its basically Lord of the Rings IN SPACE. Adjust brain accordingly.

15 hours ago, Sekac said:

Crowd 1: Resistance bombers in XTMG don't fit their on screen representation!

The dial has maneuvers faster than 1 speed (fair point)! What's this Trajectory Simulator upgrade? The bombers never do anything like that!

Crowd 2: The bombers don't have an accurate on screen representation of bombs in space!

Why are the bombers able to "drop" bombs in space? That trajectory is unrealistic!

So crowd 1 has a problem with the in-game representation of bomb trajectories. Crowd 2 gas a problem with the in-movie representation of bomb trajectories.

Maaaybe, you two crowds should talk. Maybe you'll have something on common. Maybe things will begin to make sense.

Maybe.

Maybe both crowds have one thing in common: Mary Poppins Leia is so stupid that it makes Kylo Ren's light saber seem less stupid.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

Which would explain why Leia doesnt immediatly die when she is in space and why Bomber pilots dont get sucked into space every run.

I know this is another can of worms, but why would she immediately die? People don't immediately drown when their head goes under water, so why would you expect that to kill her?

It would take several (very unpleasant) minutes to die in space, plenty of time to force-propel heading back to the ship.

5 minutes ago, Sekac said:

I know this is another can of worms, but why would she immediately die? People don't immediately drown when their head goes under water, so why would you expect that to kill her?

It would take several (very unpleasant) minutes to die in space, plenty of time to force-propel heading back to the ship.

90 seconds or so yea. They ran experiments on dogs and they never made it much longer than that. Water bears did a little better. The change is immense though usually boiling insides or whatever. "Unpleasant" is right.

1 minute ago, Boom Owl said:

90 seconds or so yea. They ran experiments on dogs and they never made it much longer than that.

Oh, sad

But thank you.

4 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

90 seconds or so yea. They ran experiments on dogs and they never made it much longer than that. Water bears did a little better. The change is immense though usually boiling insides or whatever. "Unpleasant" is right.

I don't think it's that bad.
The most injuries you would get if you are caught by surprise and attempt to keep air in your lungs. It would go out with a lot of pressure, damaging your breathing organs.

Other than that, if you are fast enough to let all the air go, you will just be unable to breath, and very slowly losing temperature (unless exposed to the sunlight, then you would be burnt very fast).
You will die faster from asphyxia than from any other cause. For how long can you hold your breath?

About your blood boiling, that is a myth. Fluids boil in vacuum since there is no pressure, but your blood won't be at zero pressure. Your normal blood pressure, in your blood vessels, kept by your pumping heart, is enough to keep it from boiling.

The depiction of a human in the vacuum of space is very well represented in 2001: Space Odyssey. It's not healthy for the body, but it isn't instant death with lots of suffering.

She also passed through an explosion on her way out. She'd be jelly and/or torn to shreds.

18 minutes ago, McFoy said:

She also passed through an explosion on her way out. She'd be jelly and/or torn to shreds.

You're not immediately jellied nor torn to shreds when you contact fire.

She was pulled out very quickly--likely too fast to even get burned. And let's not forget that the fire from the explosion would also be drawn out and away from the ship, as it needs oxygen to burn and all of the oxygen is rapidly being sucked into space and burned up or dissipated.

So the fire was moving the same direction as Leia, at the same speed as Leia, but had a head start on her, it's likely she wouldn't have touched the flame at all. And since there is no air molecules in space, the fire wouldn't generate anything close to the radiating heat that we're familiar with on earth. I don't know how close you could be, but regardless, much closer without being burned.

4 minutes ago, Sekac said:

You're not immediately jellied nor torn to shreds when you contact fire.

She was pulled out very quickly--likely too fast to even get burned. And let's not forget that the fire from the explosion would also be drawn out and away from the ship, as it needs oxygen to burn and all of the oxygen is rapidly being sucked into space and burned up or dissipated.

So the fire was moving the same direction as Leia, at the same speed as Leia, but had a head start on her, it's likely she wouldn't have touched the flame at all. And since there is no air molecules in space, the fire wouldn't generate anything close to the radiating heat that we're familiar with on earth. I don't know how close you could be, but regardless, much closer without being burned.

The fire isn't the problem, in fact it's a very negligible part of any explosion. The concussion would have jellied her and very likely she'd scrap against some of that now jagged metal surrounding the blast area. But in this case the concussion was also sucked out into space? and she avoided any and all wreckage.

What I would have ideally liked to have seen would have been her use the force to hold back the missiles allowing people to escape.

Responding to the bombs question, don't forget, this is not our galaxy. It is a galaxy far far away. Maybe things like gravity are different there.

But they are humans and that kind of force detaches internal organs from your skeleton, liquifies organs, her eyes were open when she was sucked out so they'd rupture, I've crystals on her skin mean she should of been near solid ice.

That's before you get into frostbite and other issues.

32 minutes ago, McFoy said:

The fire isn't the problem, in fact it's a very negligible part of any explosion. The concussion would have jellied her and very likely she'd scrap against some of that now jagged metal surrounding the blast area. But in this case the concussion was also sucked out into space? and she avoided any and all wreckage.

What I would have ideally liked to have seen would have been her use the force to hold back the missiles allowing people to escape.

Can you really speak authoritatively on what the concussion forces of space fantasy weapons would be through shields and space fantasy armor?

I recall seeing many, many explosions in the star wars movies and shows and not a one of them has resulted in anybody getting "jellied". I don't think that Princess Leia should have been their first foray into the gruesome.

Just now, Sekac said:

Can you really speak authoritatively on what the concussion forces of space fantasy weapons would be through shields and space fantasy armor?

If we're assuming that the lead characters are human, it's not going to matter much when her organs smash against her skeleton.

Obviously there's always a fantasy get-out clause for Star Wars, but we're talking about a moment we're meant to empathise is a 60-year old woman going through some kind of extreme trauma. The rule of cool is fine when it works and all, but sometimes you're going to miss and smash into the rule of dumb.

1 minute ago, __underscore__ said:

If we're assuming that the lead characters are human, it's not going to matter much when her organs smash against her skeleton.

Obviously there's always a fantasy get-out clause for Star Wars, but we're talking about a moment we're meant to empathise is a 60-year old woman going through some kind of extreme trauma. The rule of cool is fine when it works and all, but sometimes you're going to miss and smash into the rule of dumb.

And I'm just saying you're complaining about an instance wholly consistent with the Star Wars universe; a universe which posits, over and over again, that an explosion mostly just puts you on your @ss.

Can you think of a single other instance in the Star Wars franchise where an explosion had any effect other than to toss people around and have them scream?

It's not about rule of cool, it's just that that scene was confirmation that you are indeed still watching a Star Wars movie. There is no "extreme trauma" in star wars and there never has been. Why insist on it now?

Gallen actually had a heart attack from the loud noise. Sans plot armor there are scenes in every battle across all movies where proximity to an explosion kills the fodder.