Ok gotta cut in here and point out "There is no extreme trauma in star wars and there never has been"

Getting a hand chopped off with a sword is gonna be pretty traumatic.

Carry on lol

19 minutes ago, Sekac said:

It's not about rule of cool, it's just that that scene was confirmation that you are indeed still watching a Star Wars movie. There is no "extreme trauma" in star wars and there never has been. Why insist on it now?

Try telling that to the people in Jabba's Palace who bricked it at the sight of a Thermal Detonator. Or to all the Rebels who thought they'd need to get clear of the exploding shield generator. Or the Imperials who got smashed when the X-Wings shot up the Death Star. Didn't they use grenades on Hoth as well?

But, really, it's the same reasons why the prequels also failed the Rule of Cool: because it looked really, really stupid.

1 hour ago, Dabirdisdaword said:

Ok gotta cut in here and point out "There is no extreme trauma in star wars and there never has been"

Getting a hand chopped off with a sword is gonna be pretty traumatic.

Carry on lol

Yes but it's cauterised by the heat of the blade so thats a matter of shock not blood loss and shock effects everyone differently.

1 hour ago, McFoy said:

Gallen actually had a heart attack from the loud noise. Sans plot armor there are scenes in every battle across all movies where proximity to an explosion kills the fodder.

Yeah, and if he hadn't died from the heart attack, he would've been fine. Leia didn't have a heart attack and thus survived the explosion.

I'm not suggesting explosions don't kill people in star wars, but they have never caused anyone to be jellified. There is no case to be made that Leia certainly would've died in the explosion. I'm sure some people in the room died instantly, Leia did not. That's totally consistent with the Star Wars universe.

I was being facetious about Gallens death but I suppose that didn't translate well. I think you're getting too hung up on the word jellied. I mean it in the sense of what happens to someones organs and tender bits when they get jostled around the skeleton from concussive force. It's literally what kills you in an explosion, shrapnel only really playing an effect on things outside the effective blast radius. Even if the explosion did not kill her it should have hurt her enough that any exposure to space or aether would be fatal, instead she naps for a few hours..

Explosions against command bridges in capital ships seem to be a small theme. RotJ had an A-wing kamikaze into Adm. Piett’s lap and produce and awesome explosion and probably resulted in several officers and spacemen being blown into vacuum over DSII. But we only saw lots of fire. Like LOTS of it. Same with TLJ, lots of fire, presumed shock waves destroying structures in the bridge, but we also see the point of view of the command crew afterwards, and one of the crew surviving by a literal miracle. What else would you call the Force but divine power of the cosmos that picks and chooses whom to save? Anyway, the armoured structures of the the ship are presumed to carry the destructive (small ‘f’) force of any impacts or explosions and in failing their integrity the crew areas are depressurised and any crew are blown out. Does this scenario also allow pressure shock waves to traverse the atmospheric medium of the ship in time to injury the occupants or is the shock wave further absorbed by the remaining internal and external inertial dampeners/etc.? I dunno.

also bombs, torps and such in SW, as well as any thing happening in the vacuum and micro G environments that Earthers have very little experience will seem weird no matter how they are depicted. Do bombs have their own gravity drives that allow acceleration? Do they have ion drives? Is anything ‘magnetic’ in the sense that we are familiar with? There’s no need to invoke outright fantasy when the physics of space combat and highly advanced tech are strictly unknowable until we as a species invent all of it. We know how rockets propel spacecraft around one star system, and the only space combat we’ve waged was crashing something into something else and making huge debris clouds that ruin our ability to get off the planet.

wait,what was my point again?

On a related note: Poe getting blasted out of the hanger should have 100% killed him. Hydrostatic shock and all that.

Apparently an explosion picking you up and throwing you twenty feet from the force of the impact has no appreciable effect on your health these days, but that isn't specific Star Wars.

21 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

Okay to say that you'd need to know the dimensions of said asteroid, it's composition and it's rotational speed.

Rotation speed has nothing to do with it. Just its mass (or volume x density)... and how far the TIE Bombers are from the center of mass when they drop them.

1 hour ago, RampancyTW said:

On a related note: Poe getting blasted out of the hanger should have 100% killed him. Hydrostatic shock and all that.

Apparently an explosion picking you up and throwing you twenty feet from the force of the impact has no appreciable effect on your health these days, but that isn't specific Star Wars.

Getting knocked out for an hour or two is also just one of those things.

14 hours ago, __underscore__ said:

Getting knocked out for an hour or two is also just one of those things.

Slow intercranial hemorrhage? Naw, that’s not going to keep our heroes down! Might be a suggestion as to why they keep making very bad decisions tho.

On 29.12.2017 at 9:41 AM, Sciencius said:

Personally: I am still undecided, I like the present system, but I think i could be fun to try out something different.. did somebody make fan-based rules/gamesystem for such a thing?

Full Thrust has a vector movement system.

On 29.12.2017 at 4:51 PM, Boom Owl said:

90 seconds or so yea. They ran experiments on dogs and they never made it much longer than that. Water bears did a little better. The change is immense though usually boiling insides or whatever. "Unpleasant" is right.

IIRC about 30 seconds till you fall unconscious. Now naturally leia having a protective emergence shield around her is actually possible and might increase the time till losing conscious by minutes.

The Resistance Bombers were FFG's Quad Jumper for me. A little extra screen time this time around, but still...worthwhile for a Wave release? It only gives me hope for ships like the Chiss Clawcraft and Mauls ship might actually get gameplay.

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IIRC about 30 seconds till you fall unconscious. Now naturally leia having a protective emergence shield around her is actually possible and might increase the time till losing conscious by minutes.

One thing I hadn't previously considered is maybe the deflector shield maintains a thin atmosphere? That'd explain the ice too: something to conduct the heat away.

Just now, Firespray-32 said:

One thing I hadn't previously considered is maybe the deflector shield maintains a thin atmosphere? That'd explain the ice too: something to conduct the heat away.

No hangers keep atmosphere in using magnetic shielding the air carries one charge the field another.

There are also navigation sheilds which protect craft from stellar dust, even tie fighters have these.

Deflector sheilds are designed to stop weapons fire not to be a catch all.

So on that bridge with no airlock there was nothing but void, so how they got her in is very questionable.

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the air carries one charge the field another.

Dioxygen and dinitrogen aren't charged molecules. Making them charged if you plan on breathing them in isn't a very good idea. Regardless of what they call it the barrier on the hangars that allows solid fighters through but not gases is based on fictional principles.

I see no reason why the shields couldn't hold in a thin atmosphere. At a bare minimum they've have containment shields to plug hull breaches.

It's also entirely possible that space exposure works differently to reality in Star Wars. The starfighters treat it like atmosphere anyway.

On 12/29/2017 at 9:53 AM, Dabirdisdaword said:

Ok gotta cut in here and point out "There is no extreme trauma in star wars and there never has been"

Getting a hand chopped off with a sword is gonna be pretty traumatic.

Carry on lol

That reminded me of this someone posted:

All the Skywalker men get pretty sliced up.

On 12/28/2017 at 3:48 PM, PhantomFO said:

I don't understand why people are upset about the bomb dropping down in TLJ, and yet they never complained about the TIE Bombers doing the same thing in Empire when they were bombing the asteroids.

On 12/28/2017 at 4:01 PM, Darth Meanie said:

I WAS 12!! I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND PHYSICS YET!!!!!

I'm upset that Bombers can't take trajectory simulator when they were clearly using it in The Empire Strikes Back.

On 12/29/2017 at 3:07 AM, Ralgon said:

magnets, how do they work?

There was also the issue of breathing when the doors were opened. I didn't see any light up force field. Oh and then having to kick the ladder to get the remote trigger to fall.

Come on folks, we all know by now that Star Wars is WW2 physics in Space as far as any space battle goes.

4 hours ago, Marinealver said:

There was also the issue of breathing when the doors were opened. I didn't see any light up force field.

The Force doesn’t work like that!

light up areas don’t always have to be present for atmospheric force fields to be in place.

it seems every time there’s a new SW movie there’s two groups that argue how implausible the physics are and how the physics do make sense from a certain point of view. Every Prequel movie was subjected to this, and so far every sequel, including ESB and RotJ. Yes not just during the internet age but before that the OT had lots of folks complaining about the Falcon making the trip from Hoth to Anoat to Bespin on just sublight, as well anything from Ewoks being strong enough to kill armored troops or Endor’s gravity being weak enough for the gliders to work or even the death plunge of the Executor into the DSII. It’s a long held tradition.