And there is plenty of Prequel stuff in Destiny. They are even making a Jar Jar card!

2 hours ago, thecactusman17 said:

There appear to be no known references to either of these droids in the new canon aside from RPG sourcebooks.

Of course...as I said, random Legends stuff

But FFG is happy to use Legends in their games so far, much more so than prequels. Not that I expect to see Carbonites, they were just the first thing goggle threw out for some reason!

1 hour ago, cptmusket said:

And there is plenty of Prequel stuff in Destiny. They are even making a Jar Jar card!

But nothing in any game with miniatures still, at all. My guess (with no evidence at all to back it up....) is different licence agreements between card/miniatures games, which is very common.

2 minutes ago, Extropia said:

Of course...as I said, random Legends stuff

But FFG is happy to use Legends in their games so far, much more so than prequels. Not that I expect to see Carbonites, they were just the first thing goggle threw out for some reason!

FFG uses Legends stuff when they have a backlog of special characters or highly demanded units to utilize and evidence that including it and any associated characters will not interfere with the existing and future films or planned canon. Everything they do post-Legends has to be cleared through Disney as its inclusion automatically makes it canon (again). Disney let go of Legends so they wouldn't have to be tied into the old EU stories for any new films.

This makes the exclusion of so many Prequel-era characters and items so galling. They have a large amount of acknowledged canon material still relatively fresh in the minds of Star Wars fans that has no major ramifications on the new material they can create in the future. Also, much of it was specifically created to provide designs for merchandise such as toys and video games. It should be used where appropriate.

I agree with you. But they certainly seem to prefer Legends to prequels, whatever the reason. Licensing, Disney disapproval....maybe the FFG designers just flat out don’t like the prequel stuff.

Regardless, I expect the “nothing from prequel movies only” pattern to continue, for good or ill.

1 hour ago, Extropia said:

I agree with you. But they certainly seem to prefer Legends to prequels, whatever the reason. Licensing, Disney disapproval....maybe the FFG designers just flat out don’t like the prequel stuff.

Regardless, I expect the “nothing from prequel movies only” pattern to continue, for good or ill.

I think it's more that Disney doesn't want to put Prequel stuff out for the moment with a new trilogy out that's heavily based around ignoring all the missteps of the Prequels (and making some of their own). After the final film releases, they will probably reopen the floodgates.

Maybe, but the “no prequel only” rule (well, maybe not a rule...but still) is many years old now, and even predates the canon reset by a couple of years iirc rightly.

Id very much like to be wrong, but I just don’t see it happening except for the odd unit that is in some new canon source. And there are a good few now...but my gut says we’ll never have a Clone Wars release.

10 hours ago, cptmusket said:

And there is plenty of Prequel stuff in Destiny. They are even making a Jar Jar card!

an army of Gungans....that type of brigade would set terrible terror!..

The AT-RT is from EPIII and is included in the base game. So kinda already happened.

In the recent Marvel Comics Darth Vader has a secret army of Commando Droids. And all the comics are Mouse canon. It takes place during OT era so it could work in Legion. Plus commando droids are awesome!

13 hours ago, Mep said:

The AT-RT is from EPIII and is included in the base game. So kinda already happened.

The AT-RT is from later canon sources too (comics I think). But yeah...there is Clone Wars gear already.

HelHound, I didn’t know that about the Commando Droids, that’s awesome.

i don't think that a prequel era game will be coming anytime soon. not until Legion is very well established, if even then.

but, i wouldn't be surprised if we don't see 'repurposed' clone wars gear eventually. in both canon and EU, the Rebellion used a lot of clone wars gear, both republic and separatist, since they were always having trouble getting gear., and took what would work.

we could see Vader's BX-series Commando Droid Legion, for example, though i'd hope they'd require you to take Vader as your commander.

the rebellion has more options, since they have a hodge-podge of gear already. they could field the occasional AT-TE (and SW:Rebels shows that while the older walkers are outclassed by the AT-AT, they can still be effective), and you could have units of Clones that joined the rebellion as a special forces type unit in the game, complete with modified versions of the clonetrooper armor. or they could be using modified AAT's or fielding some salvaged Destroyer Droids.

man, why do people insist on holding onto their hate for the prequels? I mean i love the Original Trilogy more just like the rest of you but the prequels never deserved the hate it got from fans that clearly can't let go of their childhood and move on.

The prequels were beautifully written and the poetic nature of how Palpatine and Darth Vader rose to power is not something to be snuffed at; even with the classic star wars cheese scenes. Those of you that hate the prequels clearly have little to no interest in politics, if you were then you'd appreciate the films a lot more. George Lucas deserves more praise for those films in my opinion.

the prequels come with an even much much larger array of units and vehicles than the original trilogy ever did and if you add in the all the clone wars stuff you have enough stuff to release for years and years to come which can make for some really fun, diverse and dynamic games. i would love to see the clone wars stuff especially. I was never a fan of clones or troopers much until i saw the CGI clone wars series. Particularly season 4 the invasion of Umbara set of 4 episodes. Everything from the clones perspectives in the war. It was emotional and powerful to say the least

5ere doesn’t appear to be much, if any, prequel hate in this thread so bit confused by your post tbh.

16 minutes ago, Extropia said:

5ere doesn’t appear to be much, if any, prequel hate in this thread so bit confused by your post tbh.

I'm just calling out the few that keep this weird fight going on after years of this negative opinion stating just because they didn't like it and feel like their opinion means everything. I run into too many of these people both online and in person.. and yet they've accomplished nothing but still persist anyways.. it's like they get a kick out of it while they stir the pot, add their own tidbits and watch the banter begin again

the recipe of the troll is a dangerous one

i think it boils down to when they play a game they don't wanna see battle droids across the table from their OT army and it ruins their perfect expectation of their OT game.. drives me bananas.. if the success of Destiny isn't already speaking volumes about mixing all 3 era's together then i don't know what will get through to these people.. i literally want to say to them "go play at home with your OT loving friends and let the rest of us enjoy the game for what it is. Nobody is forcing your to buy their product, nobody is forcing you to buy everything, you buy what you want.. nobody is forcing you to play competitive." the mindset needs to stop

i want to see mixed armies.. these things make for more interesting games..

anyways.. i'm done ranting.. felt like i needed to get that out

I am not a huge fan of the prequels but I think that the republic and separatist armies are pretty universally viewed as one of the best things that came out of them. Remember there are plenty of people who don't like the movies but love the clone wars cartoon. In any case I don't think anyone here has put out any real serious prequel hate.

28 minutes ago, executor said:

I'm just calling out the few that keep this weird fight going on after years of this negative opinion stating just because they didn't like it and feel like their opinion means everything. I run into too many of these people both online and in person.. and yet they've accomplished nothing but still persist anyways.. it's like they get a kick out of it while they stir the pot, add their own tidbits and watch the banter begin again

But that is essentially what you're doing, no? You're elevating your opinions above those of the people who didn't like the prequels. Nothing wrong with people having differing opinions on things.

I grew up with the original SW but I didn't like the prequels because of the heavy use of CGI, the ridiculous need to explain The Force, poor acting, childish battledroids, and technology that seemed jarringly more advanced than the original series. What I always enjoyed about the originals and even the sequels, is that the technology at least felt "grounded" and grittier or at least somewhat more plausible. I think the units and technology from the original movies and on works well at this scale. Legion seems more about skirmishes than outright epic battles. Kind of reminds me of WH40K vs 40K Epic.

With that said, I'm not adverse to having the Rebels/Imperials using reclaimed clone-wars era technology or units but I think the scale would have to be different to have entire factions based on the prequels.

At least in reference to the Droids there are at least 2 canon references to forces large enough to form their own faction. The first is rebels episode"The Last Battle" where the crew of the Ghost first fight, then team up with the remains of a droid army to fight the empire. The second is the Thrawn novel where several imperial ships fight 400 vulture droids that were repurposed to be a private attack force.

We all know that Clone Wars content depends entirely on sales figures.

X-wing has units from both the prequel and the sequel eras so I would imagine FFG is open the ideas of bringing these units into the game one way or another.

A two faction war game isn't all that exciting after all.

I do think it is unlikely that we will get separate factions for prequels, but FFG has used limited amount of this in armada, and there is tons of prequal era stuff in star wars destiny; which shows that they are not totally close minded about this option.

Not sure I want droids. Legion is far more realist than Lucas. Droids can't be suppressed, which would make them rather strong, but from the movies we are used to see them as pathetic losers. Something would have to give there and I don't like the prospective outcome.

On 12/28/2017 at 9:02 AM, Ghostofman said:

I've heard that until very recently (and even now it's not easy) merchandise that referenced the prequels was banned without a serious review and approval from Lucasfilm higher ups. And those approvals were very rare. Basically they didn't want people thinking about the"bad" movies while they were trying to relaunch the series.

This is false, and disconfirmed numerous times by individuals at Lucasfilm. Here’s an incomplete list of material heavily influenced by prequel content (including Clone Wars), produced throughout the last 4 years. Maybe they had to go through a more rigorous screening process, but if so it doesn’t reflect in the quantity of material produced.

Dark Disciple

Tarkin

Lords of the Sith

Catalyst

Darth Maul

Obi Wan and Anakin

Mace Windu

Kanan

Darth Vader (both original and newest run)

Doctor Aphra

From a Certain Point of View

Battlefront II (both novel and game)

Aftermath

Rebels

Not to mention kids books and young reader adaptations of prequel content. As well as the references to the prequels in the films themselves (Mustafar in Rogue One for example)

The only company where individuals have made statements about not producing prequel content is FFG.

26 minutes ago, WAC47 said:

The only company where individuals have made statements about not producing prequel content is FFG.

Unfortunately that’s the only company that matters when it comes to this discussion.

44 minutes ago, Extropia said:

Unfortunately that’s the only company that matters when it comes to this discussion.

Oh exactly. Thats what bugs me the most when people try to drag Disney/Lucasfilm into it. It’s FFG’s decision.