...have the evade action:

> Because Sensor Jammer/Juke Kylo would be insane! Another ship that could take this combo is the SF, and that also can't evade. The only imp ship that can SJ/Juke is the Advanced, but it can't have auto thrusters, and only has 2 attack (the E-Wing could take SJ/Juke. Anyone try that?)

Other Kylo thoughts:

> I tried FCS w/PTL and it is almost too much action economy. Bc you can't evade, if you focus, already have a TL from FCS, and don't need to reposition, you just don't take a second action.

> I don't think Kylo would be broken if this thing had a torpedo slot. Technically this could be inferred from the preview, so not a spoiler to suggest that. It would make him more expensive, but I think it would be fine.

I wonder, though, if 3 generics w/torpedos would be broken. That could by why they excluded it...

19 minutes ago, HanScottFirst said:

Because Sensor Jammer/Juke Kylo would be insane!

I don't get it.

Sensor Jammer: When defending, you may change 1 of the attacker's hit results into a focus result. The attacker cannot reroll the die with the changed result.

Assuming Kylo has an evade, which is possible through Intensity or Debris Gambit. Why is that insane?

5 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

I don't get it.

Sensor Jammer: When defending, you may change 1 of the attacker's hit results into a focus result. The attacker cannot reroll the die with the changed result.

Assuming Kylo has an evade, which is possible through Intensity or Debris Gambit. Why is that insane?

auto 2x canceled hits unless being attacked with a focus stored..... possibly 3 if you add autothrusters.

Just now, Ralgon said:

auto 2x canceled hits unless being attacked with a focus stored.....

Yes, I got that part - if he has no focus, which is a huge if. But why does Juke change it into being ‚insane‘? The small offensive boost is available to several ships and yet barely anyone uses Juke unless combined with OL or Snapshot because the mod is prevented.

32 minutes ago, HanScottFirst said:

Because Sensor Jammer/Juke Kylo would be insane! Another ship that could take this combo is the SF, and that also can't evade.

Little has this man heard of Hyperwave Comm Scanner and Comm Relay.

4 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Yes, I got that part - if he has no focus, which is a huge if. But why does Juke change it into being ‚insane‘? The small offensive boost is available to several ships and yet barely anyone uses Juke unless combined with OL or Snapshot because the mod is prevented.

It makes it way better because 9 times out of 10, the other ship only has one focus token. If you shoot and change an evade to a focus, they have to decide whether to spend it now or wait until they shoot your Sensor Jammer.

1 minute ago, Celestial Lizards said:

It makes it way better because 9 times out of 10, the other ship only has one focus token. If you shoot and change an evade to a focus, they have to decide whether to spend it now or wait until they shoot your Sensor Jammer.

So you pay 6 points for a similar effect as HSCP? That is, force token spending, only here you also influence damage dealt/taken?

While staying at PS9 and without double actions?

I still don‘t see the ‚insane‘ part

29 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

.So you pay 6 points for a similar effect as HSCP? That is, force token spending, only here you also influence damage dealt/taken?

While staying at PS9 and without double actions?

I still don‘t see the ‚insane‘ part

Put it this way, if the combination was that good, then...

Whisper - Juke, Agent Kallus, Sensor Jammer. Advanced Cloaking Device

...would be worth a look, notwithstanding the middling PS.

Because they know better than to give PTL capable ships with 3 agility the evade action at this point, because it makes the game a frustrating dragfest.

I've run intensity/comms relay/sensor jammer Kylo a few times now. I find that the damage output is a bit more impressive on him when you can mitigate all damage with needing to spend all your actions arc dodging

The reason why Kylo doesn't have Evade on his bar is so that you can't go

PTL-Asensors-Autos-Title-Comm Relay-48

The build would effectively be a Regen ship, and would effectively be Corran Horn with green turns and Autothrusters.

It's not the difficulty of hitting him. Remember- If you are taking a system other than Asensors, you are doing it wrong.

Do you guys think 2 SFs with Juke, AC, Comm Relay would be viable? Can Focus for defense or reposition every turn without sacrificing any offense, and use the Juke/AC on both arcs.

The initial evades are given either by Hyperwave or maybe Younger with Debris so you can actually use the Evade if you need to and still get a new one.

Fair points, fair points. I totally did not think about Youngster combo w/debris gambit!

The idea is at PS9 you shoot w/Juke, clear out a focus token. Sensor Jammer takes a hit away.

Obviously expertise would get around that.

Alllso, true! I guess Silencer has 6hp, while Soontir has 3. 6 HP + Cr evade would probably a NPE...well. A NPE for the other player.

No, the real reason is that FFG's font for cards can't put more than 4 actions on an action bar.

Same reason Punishers don't have an EPT, no room on the bar.

16 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Put it this way, if the combination was that good, then...

Whisper - Juke, Agent Kallus, Sensor Jammer. Advanced Cloaking Device

...would be worth a look, notwithstanding the middling PS.

It is worth a look. Then immediate dismissal because of the middling PS. Also Whisper has no TL so she'd be single modding her attacks.

Kind of apples to oranges.

Kylo would be a problem because his pilot ability becomes better and better with the more damage mitigation he has. If you can intentionally let just a single damage through, you can get the best possible utility out of it.