Kylo and the Palp Shuttle?

By Ryuneke, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Hey guys.

I like the idea putting kylo and palpatine together. I also love sabacc. So i came up with this idea:

Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) (35)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
First Order Vanguard (2)

Omicron Group Pilot (21)
Fire-Control System (2)
Emperor Palpatine (8)

"Pure Sabacc" (22)
Crack Shot (1)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Adaptive Ailerons (0)

Total: 100

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The good thing is that the opponent has a hard choice to make who to focus first.

I wanna try PS 11 Kylo cause i think that it’ll work with adv. optics and FCS.

What do you think?

I don't know how to feel about this list.

On one hand; PS11 kylo - great, but on the other hand even with the extra action economy i worry about his ability to evade firing arcs. In this setup his mobility falls below both vader and soontir, and whilst he does have marginal benefits over both these pilots his points cost is such that you are having to skimp a little on the second ace.

Which brings me to sabacc: i do like him as a nice cheap heavy hitter, but an end-game ship he is not. Part of me just wants to trim a little bit of fat from the list & fly omega leader in his place.

Conclusion: i don't really know.... i have my doubts about this setup, (see above), but i think i would need to see it in action before i said anything definitive about it.

I don't really like FCS on Lambdas in regular play. I feel it's too hard to keep arc on targets with as slow as that thing turns. I'd be more inclined to take Anti-pursuit Lasers or Ion Projector to make the shuttle a threat if folks bump it (Ion Projector + Palpatine can potentially tarpit a small ship for the entire game, if they bump in your arc and you're willing to keep your shuttle there). Or just take the 0-point Collision Detector.

Those 2 points could be a bid, or spare points for Kylo. I'm not sure how the best builds will shake down with him, but it's worth considering.

For the same 25 points as Sabacc, you could fly an Advanced Optics/Juke Omega Leader. You'll have to Evade manually, but the flip side is that you can spend the Evade token every turn. OL isn't burst damage, but she's better endgame. Maybe a burst-y distraction is what Kylo needs to get started. Maybe you need a late-game duelist since Kylo's green dice are more vulnerable than Soontir's. Just thinking about options. Another option is a low-upgrade Nu gunboat. Folks are raving about Long Range Scanners and Harpoon Missile (nothing else).

I concur with the above suggestions. A PTL Kylo with Adv. Sensors/Primed Thrusters has greater utility, though for more points, FCS/TT is hella good. Kylo needs to be able to dodge, for which he needs PTL.

FCS, meanwhile, is hella bad on a Lambda. I would rather run a Palpmobile cheap, AKA w/ Collision Detector, but having an Ion Projector can, under lucky circumstances, can be stupendous.

While Omega is an excellent end game ship, I've never been against a strong early game hitter like Sabacc, though I would load him with VI for only 1 point.