How much potential does this have? Any and all suggestions are welcomed. Thank you.
TIE Punisher: •Deathrain (38)
Lightweight Frame (2)
•Bomblet Generator (3)
Unguided Rockets (2)
Extra Munitions (2)
Advanced Sensors (3)
TIE/FO Fighter: Omega Squadron Pilot (20)
Stealth Device (3)
TIE/FO Fighter: Omega Squadron Pilot (20)
Stealth Device (3)
TIE/FO Fighter: Omega Squadron Pilot (20)
Stealth Device (3)
Total: 98/100
So, I may or may not ADORE Deathrain, what with all of these amazing new options. However, I don't think you need EM on them, or Adv. Sensors. I would use Collision Detector or Trajectory Simulator instead, one because its just really useful, the other because it opens up your bombing.
As for the wingmates, I am somewhat unconvinced by generic TIE/FOs. I think normal TIEs, Strikers, or even 2 generic SFs (Title, LWF, Accuracy Corrector, Pattern Analyzer) would be stronger, if you want some sort of swarmy kinda feel, rather than a couple other aces.
On 12/24/2017 at 0:31 PM, Ryyk said:How much potential does this have? Any and all suggestions are welcomed. Thank you.
TIE Punisher: •Deathrain (38)
Lightweight Frame (2)
•Bomblet Generator (3)
Unguided Rockets (2)
Extra Munitions (2)
Advanced Sensors (3)TIE/FO Fighter: Omega Squadron Pilot (20)
Stealth Device (3)TIE/FO Fighter: Omega Squadron Pilot (20)
Stealth Device (3)TIE/FO Fighter: Omega Squadron Pilot (20)
Stealth Device (3)Total: 98/100
I love Deathrain. So much fun. Not always effective at winning the game, but almost always effective at having a good time. I'd ditch Extra Munitions at least, though. It won't really add too much to the list. @Greebwahn is right in suggesting you consider other options for the System Slot instead of Advanced Sensors. It's wicked cool to boost into a bomb drop, though. I bet Trajectory Simulator for launching bombs would also be cool (I haven't tried it out personally), but keep in mind you won't get to do a barrel roll. I'd also consider Accuracy Corrector instead of AdvS, and drop Unguided Rockets. I've flown with Deathrain some, and it never felt like I got 3 hits with them anyhow, and I'd rather keep a focus for defense. AccC will also allow you to boost freely, which is pretty nice.
I think Stealth Device is the wrong upgrade on Omegas these days. Go Advanced Optics. Bank that focus early.
If I'm building my variant of the list for myself, I'm starting there: Deathrain with Accuracy Corrector, Bomblet Generator, and Lightweight Frame. That's 34 points. 3x OSP with Advanced Optics, 19 points each. This puts the total at 91.
If you're really keen on Stealth Device, I think it might not be terrible, but I'm taking Advanced Optics first. Personally, I think I'd go for Crack Shots on the Omegas... and there's points to upgrade one to a unique FO. Omega Leader is great: either 26 points for the classic Juke/Comm Relay, or maybe it's worth consider a 25 point Juke/Advanced Optics on her. Alternately, Zeta Leader isn't bad. He breaks up the Omega-theme, but having a 3-dice attack with AdvO and Crack Shot is pretty solid. There, I'd round out the points with TIE Mk. II mods on all the F/O. Omega Ace with Swarm Leader and Advanced Optics is wicked funny at 25 points, but I don't think super wise in this list. They'd be at the highest PS, and wouldn't easily be able to take advantage of getting the shields down on opposing ships before firing with that sweet, sweet all-crit attack.
I enjoy Deathrain, I really do, but I was unimpressed by the damage output or effectiveness of Deathrain with Bomblet Generator. Last time I flew her, she had Extra Munitions, Unguided Rockets, Ion Bombs, and Seismic Charges. Auto damage from the SC's is nice, ion control is really nice. I agree with Greebwahn, Collision Detector actually does a lot of work with Deathrain, especially since she often doesn't particularly mind landing a Barrel Roll on an asteroid post-drop if it means she gets a good bomb drop and run.
Advanced Sensors aren't terrible, I just think that it's a little expensive for a ship that does quite a bit of damage but definitely won't last the whole game.
First, you dont need EM with bomblets and unguided as those dont discard the weapons.
Adv Sensors does almost nothing here, since dropping a bomb lets deathrain b-roll before maneuvering anyways.
Omegas are bringing zero offense to the table, so unless there is a reason you want PS4 instead of PS1 (Epsilons), then drop them and save points.
Maybe you dont have the cards, but adv optics on F/Os are nice, letting them take evades/locks in combat. Proxy cards in casual matches so you get a feel for things before purchasing for tournaments, etc.
Here is Deathrain and three F/Os. A little more spicey
"Deathrain" (26) w/ Trajectory Simulator (1), Unguided Rockets (2), Bomblet Generator (3), Lightweight Frame (2)
"Omega Leader" (21) w/ Juke (2), Comm Relay (3)
"Zeta Leader" (20) w/ Veteran Instincts (1), Advanced Optics (2)
Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15), Advanced Optics (2)
Total: 100
View in Yet Another Squad Builder
EDIT: Here is another with a bit more punch and a little alpha strike built in:
"Deathrain" (26) w/ Trajectory Simulator (1) , Harpoon Missiles (4) , XX-23 S-Thread Tracers (1) , Bomblet Generator (3) , Long-Range Scanners (0)
"Zeta Leader" (20) w/ Swarm Leader (3) , Advanced Optics (2)
Omega Squadron Pilot (17) w/ Crack Shot (1) , Advanced Optics (2)
Omega Squadron Pilot (17) w/ Crack Shot (1) , Advanced Optics (2)
Total: 100
View in Yet Another Squad Builder
LRS on Deathrain to setup the missile strike. If he cant get the harpoon off for whatever reason, fire the thread tracers to setup the Omegas with crack. Zeta leader can fire 5 full modded dice if he gets a lock, if not, he takes an evade and survives.
Edited by wurms35 minutes ago, wurms said:First, you dont need EM with bomblets and unguided as those dont discard the weapons.
Adv Sensors does almost nothing here, since dropping a bomb lets deathrain b-roll before maneuvering anyways.
Omegas are bringing zero offense to the table, so unless there is a reason you want PS4 instead of PS1 (Epsilons), then drop them and save points.
Maybe you dont have the cards, but adv optics on F/Os are nice, letting them take evades/locks in combat. Proxy cards in casual matches so you get a feel for things before purchasing for tournaments, etc.
Here is Deathrain and three F/Os. A little more spicey
"Deathrain" (26)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
Unguided Rockets (2)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Lightweight Frame (2)"Omega Leader" (21)
Juke (2)
Comm Relay (3)"Zeta Leader" (20)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Optics (2)Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)
Advanced Optics (2)Total: 100
Or you could chuck in Wampa instead of the Epsilon, since he might be the best 14 points the Empire can spend.
9 minutes ago, Praetorate of the Empire said:Or you could chuck in Wampa instead of the Epsilon, since he might be the best 14 points the Empire can spend.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Optics Epsilon at 17 points gives old Wampa a run for his money, in the same way Wampa challenged the humble 12 point Academy. Folks used to cut things from their list to squeeze one of those in.
25 minutes ago, Praetorate of the Empire said:Or you could chuck in Wampa instead of the Epsilon, since he might be the best 14 points the Empire can spend.
I like the ps1 Eps as a blocker. Get those Nu GunBoats before they slam away
22 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:I wouldn't be surprised if the Optics Epsilon at 17 points gives old Wampa a run for his money, in the same way Wampa challenged the humble 12 point Academy. Folks used to cut things from their list to squeeze one of those in.
I might have to try one of those instead of an Imperial Trainee without LWF...