Scale creep. Perhaps FFG intended compatibility with legion.

By TylerTT, in Star Wars: Imperial Assault

I picked up heart of the empire and jaba’s realm recently and I was surprised to see how large the storm troopers were.

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compair this big boy to the core set trooper.

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overall this leaves me a bit less bitter about the scale differences shown between the core set troopers and the legion troopers. The newer imperial assault plastics are very clean with bold details compared to the earlier stuff. So maybe after I paint my remaining imperial assault kit and the rebels from legion I can perhaps consider upgrading my core set troopers to legion/late AI scale.

The Riot Troopers are in a more standing-up pose (look at the knees), so the real scale difference is not 3mm.

There's nothing wrong being a little short for a stormtrooper either.

Eyeballing the alternate-pose Stormtroopers from the Stormtrooper villain pack, they are actually standing even higher than the Riot Troopers. (Edit: well, they are pretty close, it was a perspective error.)

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The poses are very close between riot and vanilla troopers. Just measuring any two body parts on the models shows the scale creep.

my main issue with the scale switch between legion and IA was having two partial collections of Star Wars minis instead of one comprehensive collection. This scale creap means there is almost no difference between legion and IA moving forward.

Yeah, the core set troopers are bending their legs a bit more. Don't think it's so much a size thing but a pose thing.

4 hours ago, TylerTT said:

The poses are very close between riot and vanilla troopers. Just measuring any two body parts on the models shows the scale creep.

If there is a difference, then it happened way back during wave 1, because the Stormtroopers from the Stormtrooper villain pack (as shown in my photo) are exactly the same height as the Riot Troopers. (And their poses are much closer to each other than the crouching Stormtroopers from the core set.)

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while we are at it, how tall is a royal guard (top of base to helmet)?

Since the Jabba's Realm expansion, the sculpts of the models are cleaner, more pronounced with clean lines and sharply defined details. As for scale, the figures have generally increased in size from something between 28mm to 30mm to something between 32mm and 36mm lately. You can see for yourselves - just pick up any of the human-sized heroes from the Core Box and compare him or her to for example Lando Calrissian or the Alliance Smuggler. Bend knees or not, they are definitely bigger - the head sizes alone give it away. Also, elements in the digital sculpts are re-used where aproproate, like with the Stormtroopers - compare the individual armour elements on Captain Terro and the Riot Troopers for example, they are exactly the same, as they should. I also find that the production quality of the figures has stepped up to a good tabletop-standard since Jabba's Realm. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that the same digital sculpts or elements are used for the same characters between Imperial Assault and Legion since Jabba's Realm or Heart of the Empire.

On 12/25/2017 at 4:59 AM, Fourtytwo said:

Since the Jabba's Realm expansion, the sculpts of the models are cleaner, more pronounced with clean lines and sharply defined details.

No, I'm pretty sure that Chewie's bowcaster is supposed to be an ill shaped plastic blob with no details at all and that his mini accurately reflects that.

From what I hear, it's not the size, but the girth.

I'm of course referring to how skinny lightsabers are now after the Core set.

what are the official stated size for each game?

Nothing official

The trick anthropologist use is to measure the head. ;)

That may work for anthropology but uh head size is really subjective in miniatures thanks to it being all about style and sculpting for painting.

A stromtrooper helmet is a stromtrooper helmet. If they are copy and pasting those objects in the software it will probably be the same size out of the printer, unless they changed the size intentionally.

On ‎30‎.‎12‎.‎2017 at 2:27 AM, Mep said:

The trick anthropologist use is to measure the head. ;)

Doesn't work for any miniatures that are not "true scale".

Most war game miniatures are more or less heroic scale. E.g. take any Warhammer (40k) human miniature and compare the size of the body to the size of the head or the width of the shoulders ...

Sorastro said his Duros figure was 35mm to the top of the head. Granted, that figure is not standing straight.

I measured a RG from IA last night at 35mm to the top of the head, and Fenn at 32mm (not counting the bases). I also measured at RT, but I forgot how tall he was. I want to say almost 34mm.

Maybe it’s not going to be as bad as we thought... At least for figures other than storm troopers.

Sorasto would definitely be the authority. Maybe he can put a Duros Rebel Trooper from Legion next to a Rebel Sab and take a picture.

I'm just gonna use the smaller ones as teen age conscripts :)

So you're saying the old ones are... a little short for a Stormtrooper? :D

On 12/31/2017 at 9:09 AM, DerBaer said:

Doesn't work for any miniatures that are not "true scale".

Most war game miniatures are more or less heroic scale. E.g. take any Warhammer (40k) human miniature and compare the size of the body to the size of the head or the width of the shoulders ...

Not historicals. Not LOTR. Not lots of games in the past. "Most" only applies if you live in one of those areas where Warhammer, Warmachine, and pre-painted plastic are about all that's around.