The C-ROC is ridiculous

By Bigocto, in X-Wing

28 minutes ago, Suriel said:

Pair that with some socks and see the magic :)

Socks, Crocs, and dreadlocks

1C-ROC

Syck swarm (socks)

Nym- (dreadlocks)

14 hours ago, Bigocto said:

I was up against a Tie swarm and my opponent had to choose to go after the 53 point ship early and ignore 147 points of nasty (the rest of my list). or ignore the C-ROC.

That is Epic tactics in a bottle.

4 hours ago, Zucch10 said:

But even without that between reinforce and jam even if id totally alpha’d his Mix of harpoon kiraxs, lok, xisor and Quinn, I don’t think I’d have been able to punch enough damage through for him to not stress and recover from while picking off a tie a turn.

The only thing I could say otherwise is that while it’s a lot of modification to punch through, it may fold to a more optimized list. Was running a thematic black squadron led by swarm leader vader, palp shuttle, debris gambit youngster and then howl+6 black cracks

This. Huge ships are sitting ducks against alpha strikes. Take a bunch of TAPs, add Cruise Missiles, and end the CROC in a turn.

Alternatively, TIE/ag with TLTs works just fine, too. Last time I played my CROC, it died in 1 turn from 2 TLT Y-Wings.

This is why Epic is cool. . .ships can actually have roles in your list: jousters for handling Starfighter support, and ordnance carriers for handling the big ship.

4 hours ago, tortugatron said:

They already fixed epic. It’s called Armada.

Cute. But not even close to the same idea.

16 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Socks, Crocs, and dreadlocks

1C-ROC

Syck swarm (socks)

Nym- (dreadlocks)

Bonus points because it rhymes :)

40 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Alternatively, TIE/ag with TLTs works just fine, too. Last time I played my CROC, it died in 1 turn from 2 TLT Y-Wings.

How? BTL-A4?

3 minutes ago, dsul413 said:

How? BTL-A4?

The C-Roc has 14 HP, even with BTL it does not check out.

The C-ROC is not ridiculous.

Zuckuss (crew) and Maul (crew) were not created with Epic balance/use in mind.

It will be even worse when the S&V faction get a corvette with multiple attacks.

This is a bit of a tangent, but I was wondering whether this build is good. I don't own the C-ROC or really ever play Epic, so it's mostly just a thought experiment.

C-ROC Cruiser (35)
Zuckuss (1)
Maul (3)
Heavy Laser Turret (5)
Gunnery Team (4)
Backup Shield Generator (3)
Supercharged Power Cells (3)
Optimized Generators (5)
Insatiable Worrt (1)

Total: 60

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If I understand correctly, it can regenerate all its shields in one turn with the recover action and Backup Shield Generator, but I don't know if that's good or even exceptional in Epic.

1 hour ago, TheHumanHydra said:

This is a bit of a tangent, but I was wondering whether this build is good. I don't own the C-ROC or really ever play Epic, so it's mostly just a thought experiment.

C-ROC Cruiser (35)
Zuckuss (1)
Maul (3)
Heavy Laser Turret (5)
Gunnery Team (4)
Backup Shield Generator (3)
Supercharged Power Cells (3)
Optimized Generators (5)
Insatiable Worrt (1)

Total: 60

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

If I understand correctly, it can regenerate all its shields in one turn with the recover action and Backup Shield Generator, but I don't know if that's good or even exceptional in Epic.

All of the small huge ships, such as the C-ROC, need Automated Protocols (except for the rare build where it takes Ordnance Tubes). This is so that it can take a co-ordintate, jam, or target lock action, or an upgrade card action, and still get a reinforce.

Backup Shield Generator is very good; Recover is rarely worth using: Reinforce normally prevents more damage than getting shields back, but can be used if only one ship (or fewer) is shooting at you and you happen to have enough energy to get sufficient shields back.

You want to talk about broken combos in Epic? How about Ordnance Tubes + Impetuous title + Ordnance experts + Gunnery team + Jonus and Howls in the squad and fire 3 missiles in one round and together with the primary weapon total 5 attacks? They should not have allowed this to happen.

Forgot to add that even if you get the fore section crippled you still get to fire the missiles.

Edited by tsondaboy
20 hours ago, dsul413 said:

How? BTL-A4?

Yeah and typo, there were 3. He got me with reinforce on the other section.