So why would the resistance use their own bombers, which can carry a large payload, seem to be the slowest ships in the sw universe.
Smaller bombers like the Y-Wing would have been able to do multiple passes quickly and potentially not have been destroyed as easilly.
2 minutes ago, E-Man720 said:So why would the resistance use their own bombers, which can carry a large payload, seem to be the slowest ships in the sw universe.
Smaller bombers like the Y-Wing would have been able to do multiple passes quickly and potentially not have been destroyed as easilly.
I'm pretty sure those bombers weren't even moving. They were flying from bow to stern of a moving ship and took like 5 minutes to cover the distance.
5 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:I'm pretty sure those bombers weren't even moving. They were flying from bow to stern of a moving ship and took like 5 minutes to cover the distance.
They certainly weren't in a hurry were they.
The answer must be that the bomb bay scene is just one the director wanted. And he was going to shoehorn that in even if it made no sense.
I mean, who's going to design formation-flying bombers that all die if one bomber in the formation is hit? It's nuts.
Yeah. Step back. Why did the rebellion have those bombers?
2 hours ago, Ginkapo said:Yeah. Step back. Why did the rebellion have those bombers?
Yeah. An ssd is probaby faster, and the bomb drop pattern is asking for a chain reaction back up the line to the bomber.
19 hours ago, Ginkapo said:Yeah. Step back. Why did the rebellion have those bombers?
You can read my explanation here:
7 minutes ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:You can read my explanation here:
New Insurgent Craft Identified as Strategic Bomber; Terrorist Intent Manifest
It makes me proud to know that you're providing a fair and balanced alternative to all those lying Rebel propaganda sites with their fake news and alternative facts. You sir are a credit to the Empire. Keep up the good work.
Why would they be using gravity drop bomb racks in space? Did I miss the part where there was some motorized launcher in there?
22 hours ago, Democratus said:The answer must be that the bomb bay scene is just one the director wanted. And he was going to shoehorn that in even if it made no sense.
I mean, who's going to design formation-flying bombers that all die if one bomber in the formation is hit? It's nuts.
Yep. I figured if they're that slow then it is because they are very heavily armored or something. They didn't need to be fast because they didn't care if they got hit.
indeed.
2 hours ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:You can read my explanation here:
New Insurgent Craft Identified as Strategic Bomber; Terrorist Intent Manifest
I absolutely love the website and the article.
You are indeed a credit to our Empire.
By the way, anyone else notice that the bombers are labeled StarFortress SF-17? Could be a tribute to the B-17 Flying Fortress from WWII. Honestly, I'd take a B-17 over these flimsy Resistance bombers any day.
38 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:I absolutely love the website and the article.
By the way, anyone else notice that the bombers are labeled StarFortress SF-17? Could be a tribute to the B-17 Flying Fortress from WWII. Honestly, I'd take a B-17 over these flimsy Resistance bombers any day.
Stylistically they kind of reminded me more of Liberators, actually. But yeah, obviously very strong WWII strategic bomber inspiration. I do love that even if the whole gravity drop mechanism was just unfathomable.
Either it's actual gravity drop, which... in orbit ? Really ?
Or it's a powered launcher, in which case: Not gonna quite make it to the bridge? Maybe try and pitch up 10º or so, that'll do it.
Director said they were very much modeled after the B17 and other WWII bombers.
The bombs were apparently magnetic. Launched down with magnetic launchers and seek the target magnetically.
16 hours ago, shmitty said:Director said they were very much modeled after the B17 and other WWII bombers.
The bombs were apparently magnetic. Launched down with magnetic launchers and seek the target magnetically.
And why didn't the bombs just stick to the sides of the bomb bay?
The director is a moron who should suffer many non injurious but generally terribly humiliating misfortunes.
8 minutes ago, Frimmel said:And why didn't the bombs just stick to the sides of the bomb bay?
The director is a moron who should suffer many non injurious but generally terribly humiliating misfortunes.
Because the sides of he bomb bay have the opposite magnetic charge...
Fairly straightforward if you can control orientation of the bombs which they did. Its maglev...
Just now, Ginkapo said:Because the sides of he bomb bay have the opposite magnetic charge...
Fairly straightforward if you can control orientation of the bombs which they did. Its maglev...
Okay, but I don't believe for a second that he thought of that before he was called on it.
The Battlefront 2 last Jedi Campaign missions also explain why the bomber targeted that particular spot on the dreadnaught, and not just the Bridge
On 12/22/2017 at 0:07 PM, Frimmel said:Okay, but I don't believe for a second that he thought of that before he was called on it.
You mean like another director saying parsec was a unit of speed instead a unit of distance?
5 minutes ago, Caldias said:You mean like another director saying parsec was a unit of speed instead a unit of distance?
Lucas's Famous Error is using parsec as a unit of time:
"Less than 12 standard timeparts" (novel, possibly also earliest version of script) becomes "Less than 12 parsecs"
Point still stands
On 12/22/2017 at 8:55 AM, Frimmel said:And why didn't the bombs just stick to the sides of the bomb bay?
The director is a moron who should suffer many non injurious but generally terribly humiliating misfortunes.
Bro', if you want to go out of your way to think of reasons why the director might be a moron, other people can go out of their way to think about why he's not.
Is there a reason you want to hate on this movie?
On 12/24/2017 at 2:24 PM, Mikael Hasselstein said:Bro', if you want to go out of your way to think of reasons why the director might be a moron, other people can go out of their way to think about why he's not.
Is there a reason you want to hate on this movie?
"Want to hate?" I did hate the movie. I think it is a very bad movie and very very bad Star Wars. The director is a moron as he seems to fundamentally not understand the IP he is dealing with. He like JJ keeps grasping for emotional beats his script hasn't earned.
On 12/24/2017 at 10:16 AM, Caldias said:You mean like another director saying parsec was a unit of speed instead a unit of distance?
I'm not sure gravity feed bomb racks in space (not to mention horribly slow and fragile bombers when the universe has already established bombers) and parsecs instead of some unit of time is quite the same thing. And the mistakes of a prior film do not in any way justify the mistakes in this one.
This was a bad movie. Full of cheapness and triteness and an entirely unnecessary subplot itself very trite that goes no where and uses coincidence to get the characters (who have failed due to a doublecross that happens offscreen) out of trouble. The whole thing was poorly edited, they killed Luke Skywalker more or less in a montage after a quite thorough character assassination, much of the script played like a peeing match between Rian and JJ, Kylo is not scary, Hux is not scary (took all the vinegar out of him at the start of the movie,) Phasma might have been okay but she fell to her doom but her reveal was cheap and out of nowhere, a Jedi temple with a shrine to the dark side? escape pods are not ships...
I will give them credit for not making Rey the abandoned child of an OT hero. But every time they'd wash off some of her mary-sue-ness they'd plaster it back on with a trowel.
There was winking at the camera without the decency of winking at the camera.
If you enjoyed this movie anyway, good for you. I hated it.
36 minutes ago, Frimmel said:"Want to hate?" I did hate the movie. I think it is a very bad movie and very very bad Star Wars. The director is a moron as he seems to fundamentally not understand the IP he is dealing with. He like JJ keeps grasping for emotional beats his script hasn't earned.
I'm not sure gravity feed bomb racks in space (not to mention horribly slow and fragile bombers when the universe has already established bombers) and parsecs instead of some unit of time is quite the same thing. And the mistakes of a prior film do not in any way justify the mistakes in this one.
This was a bad movie. Full of cheapness and triteness and an entirely unnecessary subplot itself very trite that goes no where and uses coincidence to get the characters (who have failed due to a doublecross that happens offscreen) out of trouble. The whole thing was poorly edited, they killed Luke Skywalker more or less in a montage after a quite thorough character assassination, much of the script played like a peeing match between Rian and JJ, Kylo is not scary, Hux is not scary (took all the vinegar out of him at the start of the movie,) Phasma might have been okay but she fell to her doom but her reveal was cheap and out of nowhere, a Jedi temple with a shrine to the dark side? escape pods are not ships...
I will give them credit for not making Rey the abandoned child of an OT hero. But every time they'd wash off some of her mary-sue-ness they'd plaster it back on with a trowel.
There was winking at the camera without the decency of winking at the camera.
If you enjoyed this movie anyway, good for you. I hated it.
My point about mistakes is everyone makes them, and we can nitpick any IP for it's non-adherence to things all we want, just as we can justify it with fan theories/implied technology all we want. I think this film earned genuine emotional moments more than most other Star Wars films. And for the first time in decades, a Star Wars movie actually surprised me. That alone made it worth it for me.
Cool if you didn't like the movie, but a lot of us, including myself, did. I disagree that it is a bad movie, it finally took chances, instead of bunting it swung for the fences every time. Sometimes it wiffed hard. But others it really nailed things.
And if you don't like Mary Sues, then why are you okay with Luke Skywalker and Han Solo? I don't see them as any more or less Mary Sue than Rey.
But like you said, we can agree to disagree.
1 minute ago, Caldias said:My point about mistakes is everyone makes them, and we can nitpick any IP for it's non-adherence to things all we want, just as we can justify it with fan theories/implied technology all we want. I think this film earned genuine emotional moments more than most other Star Wars films. And for the first time in decades, a Star Wars movie actually surprised me. That alone made it worth it for me.
Cool if you didn't like the movie, but a lot of us, including myself, did. I disagree that it is a bad movie, it finally took chances, instead of bunting it swung for the fences every time. Sometimes it wiffed hard. But others it really nailed things.
And if you don't like Mary Sues, then why are you okay with Luke Skywalker and Han Solo? I don't see them as any more or less Mary Sue than Rey.
But like you said, we can agree to disagree.
I knew Luke wasn't there in the mine on Crait from the moment he showed up. There were no surprises in this for me. At least not good ones. Killing Admiral Ackbar with a line of dialogue was pretty surprising. But I could see the strings on these puppets.
Luke had two movies of battling turning to the darkness and taking the quick and easy path to power with the Force. That's the entire triumph of the story. Luke spitting "Never" at the Emperor. "I am a Jedi like my father before me."
Mary-sue faced the dark side and got wet. She wasn't tempted by the dark side because she "knew" how to use the Force in three easy lessons. Abandoned starving girl just shrugs off the quick and easy path to power because she just already has the power. Blech.
On 12/27/2017 at 8:11 AM, Frimmel said:"Want to hate?" I did hate the movie. I think it is a very bad movie and very very bad Star Wars. The director is a moron as he seems to fundamentally not understand the IP he is dealing with. He like JJ keeps grasping for emotional beats his script hasn't earned.
I'm not sure gravity feed bomb racks in space (not to mention horribly slow and fragile bombers when the universe has already established bombers) and parsecs instead of some unit of time is quite the same thing. And the mistakes of a prior film do not in any way justify the mistakes in this one.
This was a bad movie. Full of cheapness and triteness and an entirely unnecessary subplot itself very trite that goes no where and uses coincidence to get the characters (who have failed due to a doublecross that happens offscreen) out of trouble. The whole thing was poorly edited, they killed Luke Skywalker more or less in a montage after a quite thorough character assassination, much of the script played like a peeing match between Rian and JJ, Kylo is not scary, Hux is not scary (took all the vinegar out of him at the start of the movie,) Phasma might have been okay but she fell to her doom but her reveal was cheap and out of nowhere, a Jedi temple with a shrine to the dark side? escape pods are not ships...
I will give them credit for not making Rey the abandoned child of an OT hero. But every time they'd wash off some of her mary-sue-ness they'd plaster it back on with a trowel.
There was winking at the camera without the decency of winking at the camera.
If you enjoyed this movie anyway, good for you. I hated it.
Rey’s parents being nobodies was the last thing I wanted. Having her be a Skywalker or Solo would have made her be an integral part of the Skywalker saga. Having her be a reincarnation of the chosen one would have worked as well.
Her being a nobody who was powerful because “Balance”... really made me roll my eyes.
Why didn’t Rey choose to join Kylo and rule the galaxy? It wasn’t like she had a close relationship with a mentor who taught her how awesome the lightside and Jedi were. Quite the opposite in fact. It’s like the idea didn’t even cross her mind.
Like she was to good and pure to ever consider the dark side or be influenced by it.
At least with Luke and Han we saw flaws and weaknesses that they struggled to overcome and become heroic in the end. How many flaws or weaknesses has Rey truly shown so far?