13 minutes ago, GunNut said:

You could, but with the option of getting aim tokens from Veers, I'd rather give them better odds of getting in close to use flamethrower and grenades, and then hand to hand, with their full numbers.

true, but i feel veers would be better suited to armor lockdown with ion troopers, move veers 1st and aim the ions then move/fire and recover to shoot again next round. 2x armored units reduced to move or fire for the match is well worth the 200 odd points invested.....

On 12/21/2017 at 0:29 PM, Extropia said:

That would also be my problem with Tauntauns tbh. It's easy to handwave Snowtroopers as Marines or the like, but a Tauntaun....kind of tough to explain it being in a desert or a tropical world city etc.

Hannibal could take elephants out of Africa, I'm sure the rebs can take tauntauns off Hoth.

I was thinking that the rebels attacked suddenly and since the troopers were out of regular armor on a back world planet, they suited up some guys in snow trooper armor. Or they were in the middle of a simulation when the rebels attacked.

2 hours ago, poke450 said:

I was thinking that the rebels attacked suddenly and since the troopers were out of regular armor on a back world planet, they suited up some guys in snow trooper armor. Or they were in the middle of a simulation when the rebels attacked.

Remonds me of something from the imperial handbook where the rebels where scared off by some radtroopers because they thought the area was irradiated but really the imperials only had radtrooper armour with them

7 hours ago, Orcdruid said:

Hannibal could take elephants out of Africa, I'm sure the rebs can take tauntauns off Hoth.

....so very true!!!.....

7 hours ago, Orcdruid said:

Hannibal could take elephants out of Africa, I'm sure the rebs can take tauntauns off Hoth.

Well played sir

9 hours ago, Orcdruid said:

Hannibal could take elephants out of Africa, I'm sure the rebs can take tauntauns off Hoth.

Fair point, full marks for that!

Hannibal could take elephants out of Africa, but 1 surviving out 40-50 taken is not a beneficial result.

8 minutes ago, OldSchoolEmpire said:

Hannibal could take elephants out of Africa, but 1 surviving out 40-50 taken is not a beneficial result.

This aint 221 BC

tbh its a long time before that

Technically the rebellion could bring tauntauns everywhere (although we know that canonically they freed all of them before the battle of Hoth. The problem is that they wouldn't be very effective outside of their climate. The advantage of a Tauntaun is it's ability to traverse vast snow deserts. In warmer climates they would probably suffer quite a bit.

In many video games, starting with the amazing RTS Galactic Battlegrounds, Tauntauns were found in every climate. Per canon, their homeworld is Hoth and there are at least 4 variations. Tundra (glacier), Mountain (climbing), Giant, and Scaley Tauntauns. The last one has no hair and would be the best option to domesticate off world. Although, its the giant Tauntaun we see our heros riding. In Star Wars: The Old Republic, they come in many colors. From white, gray, and black, to a variety of brown tones. In that old RTS, they are the rebel mount option in all climates and can be seen roaming free on many planets.

I find it mostly fun to research and go down video game memory lane on Christmas morning. I'd be ok with suspending my disbelief if Tauntauns were introduced. Besides, they look kinda cool offworld.

Well, the variations are legends and not Canon but I would totally be okay with a unit called rebel outrider (dragoon would still be my favorite, especially mechanics wise). It could just be represented by a tauntaun model.

The 4 variations are Canon, but the offworld occurrences are the Legends end of things. Granted, you can only ride the Giant Tauntaun, so even though they are Canon, the 3 other variations are useless.

I think Dragoons would be awesome too. I wonder how they could represent that in game mechanics.

FFG are quite happy to use Legends stuff in their games, so no worries there.

3 hours ago, AldousSnow said:

I think Dragoons would be awesome too. I wonder how they could represent that in game mechanics.

If the unit cards are one-sided like in x-wing then the dragoons would just be two-sided (mounted and unmounted) with different stats on each side and a special action to mount/dismount, like Luke's jump.

I'd like tauntauns also. Easy to pretend they're Cracian thumpers or something similar for non-Hoth scraps. (Yes, I know Cracian thumpers aren't canon anymore )

Depending on the model, if FFG produce any, maybe modding them without horns would be a possibillity. Also be groovy to see the color schemes for tauntaun based, but generic, bipedal beasts of burden the Legion community comes up with.

Happy New Year everyone. It should be a good year with Legion coming out!

They could also go with these early mcquarrie mounts.

15 minutes ago, devin.pike.1989 said:

They could also go with these early mcquarrie mounts.

YESSS! Please.

Start wars rebels has brought in a lot from the old mcquarrie artwork. I hope ffg is free to do the same

....how that mcquarrie artwork reminds me of Polish Horseman charging Panzers....interesting....

The difference is that those Polish cavalrymen at krojanty were armed with very anti tank rifles and successfully delayed the German advance!

4 hours ago, devin.pike.1989 said:

The difference is that those Polish cavalrymen at krojanty were armed with very anti tank rifles and successfully delayed the German advance!

Indeed. The whole "cavalry vs tanks" thing has been badly misreported over the years. It was hardly the one sided massacre that is is often made out to be!

4 hours ago, Extropia said:

Indeed. The whole "cavalry vs tanks" thing has been badly misreported over the years. It was hardly the one sided massacre that is is often made out to be!

Are you kidding? Maybe some polish soldiers had anti-tank-rifles, but german tanks had machine guns. Polish defenders were brave soldiers but were also outgunned and outnumbered. It may not have been a massacre but it was in all means a hopeless suicide mission.
Wehrmacht troops began the invasion (without declaring war) 9/1. They destroyed the polish air force the first few hours. 9/17 were all troops defeted but only some strongholds left. 10/6 last polish units surrendered. And that was not at least because german troops had the possibility to moove faster with light tanks, trucks, motorcycles, and planes. Do you think it would have gone faster on horseback?

Don't get me wrong: There is a lot to tell about the role of polish units and soldiers in the history of WW2, that has not been told yet. They played unrecognized but important roles in north africa and as part of the D-Day invasion. But cavalry was not part of that.

I'm not kidding. For starters, the whole "cavalry charge against tanks" never even happened. The cavalry at Krojanty were used against Wehrmacht infantry, and succeeded in scattering them quiet easily. They were forced to retreat, but they successfully delayed the Germans long enough for their other troops to withdraw, which was the whole point.

In fact, if it hadn't been for Guderian arriving the entire German Motorised Infantry Division was considering falling back.

I'm not saying they had a chance of winning, i'm saying that it was misreported (there never was a cavalry charge against tanks at Krojanty, or anywhere else ever in WW2) and wasn't a massacre (because it wasn't).

In general, the Polish cavalry didn't even fight on horseback anymore by the time of WW2. They were used as mobile reserves, and generally dismounted to fight as infantry. They used anti-tank guns (75mm and 37mm, more than enough to kill early model Panzers), AT Rifles and infantry weapons.

I also never said that cavalry was better than tanks or mechanised troops, no idea where you got that from. Clearly tanks were generally far superior, at least in that terrain.

So no....not kidding, and also not wrong

5 minutes ago, Extropia said:

I'm not kidding. For starters, the whole "cavalry charge against tanks" never even happened. The cavalry at Krojanty were used against Wehrmacht infantry, and succeeded in scattering them quiet easily. They were forced to retreat, but they successfully delayed the Germans long enough for their other troops to withdraw, which was the whole point.

In fact, if it hadn't been for Guderian arriving the entire German Motorised Infantry Division was considering falling back.

I'm not saying they had a chance of winning, i'm saying that it was misreported (there never was a cavalry charge against tanks at Krojanty, or anywhere else ever in WW2) and wasn't a massacre (because it wasn't).

In general, the Polish cavalry didn't even fight on horseback anymore by the time of WW2. They were used as mobile reserves, and generally dismounted to fight as infantry. They used anti-tank guns (75mm and 37mm, more than enough to kill early model Panzers), AT Rifles and infantry weapons.

So no....not kidding, and also not wrong

Okay. I'm with you.

Thank you for giving more information.