so in standard there only be the base set and the nets 2 sets allowed?
rotation?
Until first set of next cycle comes out both Awakening Cycle and Legacies are both legal. After that whole Awakening cycle is gone.
Standard is the last 2 full cycles. So Awakenings(inc SoR and EaW) and Legacies (inc the next 2 releases) will be legal til the next cycle starts. Probably in december/jan next year. Then it'll be Legacies and the next cycle.
You'll probably thinking of the trilogy format which is one standard set and the two most recent expansions sets.
No Trilogy is just the current cycle, no recent expansions. So right now trilogy is destiny cycle, being, destiny, spirit of rebellion and age of warfare. In a few weeks it will become, legacies, starters and boosters, rivals and 2 player starter.
FFG is making this easy by making all the boxes the same colours. Destiny has been black, legacies is white. So trilogy only uses the most current box colours as it were.
Edited by Amanal1 hour ago, Amanal said:No Trilogy is just the current cycle, no recent expansions. So right now trilogy is destiny cycle, being, destiny, spirit of rebellion and age of warfare. In a few weeks it will become, legacies, starters and boosters, rivals and 2 player starter.
FFG is making this easy by making all the boxes the same colours. Destiny has been black, legacies is white. So trilogy only uses the most current box colours as it were.
Awakenings, Spirit of rebellion, and Empire at war?
23 minutes ago, Ywingscum said:Awakenings, Spirit of rebellion, and Empire at war?
Yup, thanks.
Okay, so trilogy isn't last 3 sets but a block. That isn't very interesting.
Edited by Mepso how many sets at it's fullest will be legal at a time?
3,6 or all of them. Depending on if you're playing trilogy, standard or unlimited.
so at the fulest there only be 3 sets legal in standard, seems kind of low
Haven't seen you here in a while, SP, welcome back.
Almost certainly the most played variant will be Standard, which will be the last 3-6 sets, depending on where you are in the year. So at its fullest, it's going to be 6 sets.
There will also be one that's just the latest 1-3 sets (again, depends on where in the year you are), but that probably won't be played much.
And then the other format will ignore rotation altogether. Given Destiny isn't attracting a lot of new players and Awakenings was overprinted in the reprints, I'm guessing that'll be the most popular for a long long time.
19 minutes ago, Kieransi said:Haven't seen you here in a while, SP, welcome back.
Almost certainly the most played variant will be Standard, which will be the last 3-6 sets, depending on where you are in the year. So at its fullest, it's going to be 6 sets.
There will also be one that's just the latest 1-3 sets (again, depends on where in the year you are), but that probably won't be played much.
And then the other format will ignore rotation altogether. Given Destiny isn't attracting a lot of new players and Awakenings was overprinted in the reprints, I'm guessing that'll be the most popular for a long long time.
is the game not selling well then?
20 minutes ago, soviet prince said:
is the game not selling well then?
The game is selling very well, 6 sets will actually be a pretty large card pool for a Standard meta as it will contain around 1000 cards legal for play. The Trilogy format allows the game to stay very friendly for new people to join in which FFG has always been pretty good about. They make their games fairly accessible but then get you to have to buy 2 of everything to shell out more money. Nothing rotates out till 2019 probably.
oh just wondering he said it was not getting many new players
50 minutes ago, soviet prince said:oh just wondering he said it was not getting many new players
I think that depends on the area. My area sees new players every now and again and Legacies is definitely adding MORE interest into it.
3 hours ago, soviet prince said:oh just wondering he said it was not getting many new players
Its common issue for all CCGs - new players get discouraged a bit when then realize that s$%tload of money they need to spend to be competetive. Rotation limits that a lot. Assuming AWA reprits after current uber price drop (or even being given for free at some events) will only start to rise when people that plays today will discover some sick combos after rotation - mind my words we will see Poe throwing A LOT of sick thermals after rotation, and Palpies pulling some sick plays with his dice.
I guess how well it's selling is a local thing. I know that all the stores in my area are completely full of Destiny stock that's all on sale at 40% off now. I think the market here was completely overinundated because demand was so high at the start of the year and game stores got used to ordering huge amounts of stock. And I can't imagine the weird limited release of Legacies is going to help. I'm actually kinda bummed out about it because I really like Destiny and I think it's a shame to see that FFG not producing enough stock, and then producing too much stock, and then introducing rotation after everybody in my area had collected a full set of all the first three sets seems to have killed interest for the game here.
On 12/20/2017 at 6:48 PM, Mep said:Okay, so trilogy isn't last 3 sets but a block. That isn't very interesting.
Yes. They tried to differentiate themselves from Magic by using "Cycle" instead of "Block". So to translate to the MTG style of speech.
Standard is the 2 most recent Blocks, that currently being the Awakenings Block (Awk/SoR/EaW/Starters) and the upcoming Legacy Block(Leg/Starters/2P Starter/Following 2 sets). A Block rotates out when the Core set of the Newest Block releases, example would be once Return releases in 2019 all of Awakenings Block rotates out.
Trilogy is only the most recently release Block and its accompanying Starters and other booster sets, examples would be Awakenings Trilogy only allowing product from Awakenings-Empire at War and Legacy Trilogy only allow product from Legacy and it upcoming sets.
Unlimited is any and all product released for Star Wars Destiny.
21 hours ago, soviet prince said:so at the fulest there only be 3 sets legal in standard, seems kind of low
No you read his post wrong. The Fullest that Trilogy will ever be is 3 sets, Example: Awakenings Trilogy is only ever Awakenings, SoR, and EaW. The Fullest that Standard will get is 6 sets, Awakenings,SoR,EaW,Legacy, and the two sets following Legacy. Unlimited allows for you to play any and all Destiny product ever released, example would be the game is still going in 2028 you can still play your Awakenings Vader and Holdout Blasters in a Unlimited tournament.
TL:DR
Trilogy: 3 Sets Max
Standard: 6 sets Max
Unlimited: As many sets as FFG feels like printing of this game.
4 minutes ago, GamerGuy1984 said:Yes. They tried to differentiate themselves from Magic by using "Cycle" instead of "Block". So to translate to the MTG style of speech.
Standard is the 2 most recent Blocks, that currently being the Awakenings Block (Awk/SoR/EaW/Starters) and the upcoming Legacy Block(Leg/Starters/2P Starter/Following 2 sets). A Block rotates out when the Core set of the Newest Block releases, example would be once Return releases in 2019 all of Awakenings Block rotates out.
Trilogy is only the most recently release Block and its accompanying Starters and other booster sets, examples would be Awakenings Trilogy only allowing product from Awakenings-Empire at War and Legacy Trilogy only allow product from Legacy and it upcoming sets.
Unlimited is any and all product released for Star Wars Destiny.
Yeah, I guess that is how they are doing it. Making Trilogy (3) the last 3 sets released would make the format more interesting. Half of the time the card pool is so small might as well just do a draft. Not sure why they bothered. Just should have held small draft events on the side instead.
20 hours ago, Kieransi said:Haven't seen you here in a while, SP, welcome back.
Almost certainly the most played variant will be Standard, which will be the last 3-6 sets, depending on where you are in the year. So at its fullest, it's going to be 6 sets.
There will also be one that's just the latest 1-3 sets (again, depends on where in the year you are), but that probably won't be played much.
And then the other format will ignore rotation altogether. Given Destiny isn't attracting a lot of new players and Awakenings was overprinted in the reprints, I'm guessing that'll be the most popular for a long long time.
Technically it will always be the last 4-6 sets, as Awakenings will not rotate until the 3 core set is out. At that point you would have Legacy and its two expansions and the 3rd core sets, 1+2+1= 4.
Just now, Mep said:Yeah, I guess that is how they are doing it. Making Trilogy (3) the last 3 sets released would make the format more interesting. Half of the time the card pool is so small might as well just do a draft. Not sure why they bothered. Just should have held small draft events on the side instead.
Think they did it as a semi "thematic" thing. A Trilogy being 3 of somthing all released together as a overarching story. So instead of the last 3 sets, example being SoR/EaW/Legacy, they wanted to group it up into a Trilogy that had the same writing/design in mind.
19 hours ago, soviet prince said:oh just wondering he said it was not getting many new players
The game is selling well but it isnt growing technically. You have the people who have bought into it and play but there hasnt been a lot of player growth. Meaning they may be printing more boosters than ever, they underprinted before so printing more isnt really growing its catching up to your demand, but its the same number or maybe slighty more to slightly less buying them.
Just to give numbers to the example, disclaimer yes these are all pulled from my *** for illistration purposes. Lets say they printed 25 Million boxes of Awakenings and 10 Million people bought in. Now they are printing 35 Million boxes of Awakenings and there are lets say 8 - 14 Million players now. FFGs sales grew by more than 50% over the original launch sales but they only grew the player base by maybe 40%, or possibly the player base shrunk by 20% because of the initial issues.
Point being you want to grow your player base. Yes for a while you can grow a games sales on the people already playing. But without new people to be excited to get in the veteran players will grow bored sooner or later and then your game enters a death spiral which will lead however long it takes to its demise sooner or later.