I've recently acquired all of the TIE Fighter pilots, and I wanted to know how the LN is doing now. What are some effective builds? What are it's uses? Stuff like that.
Screaming Engine Sounds: The TIE/LN and it's place today
1) Crack Blacks. A Black Squadron pilot with Crack Shot is still only 15 points, which is pretty cheap.
2) Wampa. Even without Palpatine, a 14-point Wampa is always a threat because of the 23.4% chance of at least one crit result on every attack. That's nearly a 1/4 chance of guaranteed damage that ignores shields, and also ignores things like Quickdraw and Kylo's pilot ability.
3) Swarm Leader. Dude at a store championship in my area was running Swarm Leader Quickdraw with like 5 Academy Pilots, giving QD her own personal Death Star laser.
I’ve enjoyed Mauler Mithel and Scourge with Snap Shot. Also Black Squadron TIEs with Snap Shot. Always backed up with a TIE Shuttle with Operations Specialist - usually a Gamma Sq Vet also with Snap Shot.
I’ve toyed with the idea of Juke instead with Howlrunner, Black Sq TIEs and a TIE Shuttle with Fleet Officer but never got round to playing it.
There are so many great pilot abilities and they are so cheap. An "Ace" swarm can do some damage and surprise people, especially if you are good at blocking with the lower PS ones. And dont fall into the Howlrunner trap. They need to swarm from all sides so your opponent has no where to run.
Scourge & Mauler Mithel are very dangerous if left alone with crack or snap shot. Dark Curse and Backstabber for 16 pts each, give an offensive and defensive option. Even Night Beast gets great action economy for 15 points.
Any of them make good fillers for under 20 points.
Their main problem is against ships that can tank several shots agianst their 2 red dice. If you can't get to range one or leverage their tricks, they can die faster than they kill.
But they sure are fun to fly.
If you ever throw aces in a list and find yourself with, say, 15 or 16 points spare, you can get some really tempting options.
The only reason I haven't run Backstabber more often of late is I keep wanting a target lock for Vessery synergy. Because I'm a sucker for Defenders, even if they are out of fashion.
Wampa and Scourge make a great team. I've heard good things about Snap shot Mauler, and an Academy Pilot is a very good blocker for 12 Pts. Howlrunner with Crack Blacks should be decent, just not as you whole list. Maybe Swarm Leader QD with Debris Gambit Youngster and some generics or a Howl miniswarm.
Original ties are all basically dead when it comes to meta usage. None.
Here is the exhaustive list of what I use or seen them used for: (The exhaustive part is the saddenly part of the meta)
7 Tie Swarm, Howl or Youngster not seen EVER, no good in this meta
8 tie swarm - people play for kicks
6 crackswarm - during the height of 3 top boats, this was the meta option for ties. Does pretty ok as a T2 list.
5 Crackswarm + Vader no EU - certain good players used to like this.
Kylo QD/Whisper AP - I use it for 12 points of buffer. (Same with Echo Whisper AP)
Stridan-Hux-EB 2 Strikers/Tie Aggressors AP - Hux makes this build pretty ok.
Swap in Vader to the above - fun, but not recommended. ew.
3 Deltas + Dark Curse
Mauler Snapshot shenanigans.
I still think best build and best usage is:
Stridan Hux EB Courier Droid
Duchess VI AA LWF
Pure Sabaac Adapt AA LWF
Academy Pilot
"Scourge" (17)
Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) (35)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Threat Tracker (3)
Autothrusters (2)
First Order Vanguard (2)
"Wampa" (14)
Academy Pilot (12)
Academy Pilot (12)
Total: 100
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Might be good. I'll try it Saturday unless you guys have a better idea.
Are any of the Fighter pilots a good filler in my Kylo-Blackout list?
Edited by Celestial LizardsI was thinking that Youngster with the new Debris Gambit ept might be fun, you could take some large debris fields and rocks. Something like this would be cool I think.
"Youngster" (15)
Debris Gambit (2)
"Wampa" (14)
Black Squadron Pilot (14)
Crack Shot (1)
Black Squadron Pilot (14)
Crack Shot (1)
Academy Pilot (12)
Gamma Squadron Veteran (19)
Snap Shot (2)
Systems Officer (2)
Fleet Officer (3)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE Shuttle (0)
Total: 100
20 minutes ago, UberMunchkin said:Systems Officer (2)
Seems a bit wasted on here.
17 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:I've recently acquired all of the TIE Fighter pilots, and I wanted to know how the LN is doing now. What are some effective builds? What are it's uses? Stuff like that.
Screaming Engine Sound
I thought you were going to talk about this iconic sound. I read somewhere that the Tie fighter's scream is a blend of an elephant's trumpet and a car tire rolling on wet pavement.
This is a super cool short video.
1 hour ago, Celestial Lizards said:Seems a bit wasted on here.
Fair point, I think I added him because that's my standard TIE Shuttle build.
Maybe drop him for a 2pt initiative bid or replace with something like Saboteur or BoShek, or maybe drop the academy pilot and add Targeting Computer mods to all the other TIEs and surprise the whoosit out of your opponents by having TIE Fighters target lock them. ![]()
1 hour ago, Bullox said:
Engine in the wrong place. That ruins everything.