An RPG w/ no female characters allowed?

By Nojo509, in Deathwatch

major shultz said:

Howdy!

Woman can't be Space Marines, and Men can't be sisters of battle. Unfair? The reason there are no female Space marines is because there were no female Primarches. This is all about the Primarch gene seed not being rejected by the host. Which is why they start converting the future space marines around puberity and have a very high failure rate. The biologist in me reminds you that girls have an extra X chromosome instead of the boys Y, increasing the chance of failure. The game master in me reminds you and all of my players that we can work around alot of this with creativity and imagination. Interogators, Sisters of Battle, Clerics, Inquisitors, Assasins, Experiments, Tech Priests, living Saints, etc are all great work arounds. BTW I have 2 RL daughters that love this game, 1 is playing a female Sister of Battle trying to become a living Saint, and the other one is a male Dark Angels Devastator that loves the Dakka Dakka with her heavy bolter.

Thanks

P.S. As an actual US infantry Marine in real life I can personal attest the quality of a warrior has little to do with gender and everything to do with whats in your head, heart, and spine. BTW all Marines are brothers regardless of their gender. Semper Fi Brother Marines!

I agree with your above Post brother.

Everything can be worked around, think outside the box and not in it as my old Gunny used to say.

Semper Fi Devil.

Why are we still talking about this?

Nevermind...

Amen lets get back to playing

I only bring back this thread to do a rare thing on the internet - concede a fair and valid point. N0-1_H3r3, Polaria: you both make valid points and I stand well and truly corrected.

StormKnight said:

There are no female Marines. What is so hard about that to grasp?

You're wrong.

I've run homebrew RPGs with female marines. I've seen them in 40K games, in Space Hulk games, and in Epic 40K games. I've even had a RPG with a female primarch. People have been making female marine armies back to Rogue Trader days. I've even got a magazine with a published scenario that has a female marine chapter in it.

There ARE female Space Marines, whether you want to stick your head in the sand try to protect your ego by pretending they don't exist or not.

Riiiiiiight.... and I suppose Orks have genitalia too?

Those examples are all player-made and would entirely **** up the game from a consistency standpoint.

For the record, you can do whatever you like in homebrewed games, because they're ******* HOMEBREWED, I am seriously mad that people are so mad over this **** thing.

YOU CAN HAVE THEM IF YOU WANT BUT THE WON'T BE IN THE ******* BOOK!

I would, how ever, not be suprised if they're a pop-out box near the begining of the book that address this. Somewhere between "What is an RPG' and "This is a work of fiction"

BloodAngelAzrael said:

StormKnight said:

There are no female Marines. What is so hard about that to grasp?

You're wrong.

I've run homebrew RPGs with female marines. I've seen them in 40K games, in Space Hulk games, and in Epic 40K games. I've even had a RPG with a female primarch. People have been making female marine armies back to Rogue Trader days. I've even got a magazine with a published scenario that has a female marine chapter in it.

There ARE female Space Marines, whether you want to stick your head in the sand try to protect your ego by pretending they don't exist or not.

Riiiiiiight.... and I suppose Orks have genitalia too?

Those examples are all player-made and would entirely **** up the game from a consistency standpoint.

For the record, you can do whatever you like in homebrewed games, because they're ******* HOMEBREWED, I am seriously mad that people are so mad over this **** thing.

YOU CAN HAVE THEM IF YOU WANT BUT THE WON'T BE IN THE ******* BOOK!

Dude chill out man. ITS JUST A GAME!

Let others do what they want in the realm of RPGs and homebrewed. But you sir seem to take things personally... LIke as if someone kicked your dog into a speeding semi-truck....on your birthday...

I am not even going to bother to read through this thread. Space Marines are male, if you want to change the lore go for it, but typically they are male. However if you want a female character that follow lore just make a sister of battle, there are rules for it with DH, or maybe even make a space marine without the unnatural traits. there problem solved for everyone. it is up to you but that is the lore.

Cheers

It's probably been mentioned somewhere, but if I were to add an Adeptus Sororitas tohte mix, how much xp would I have to give her to get her up to speed?

Thanks.

im guessing the same as RT, up to rank 5 for their rank one, hell maybe even rank 8 if you want them to be amazingly on par with the marines gear and be able to stand up to hordes

Ranek7212 said:

BloodAngelAzrael said:

StormKnight said:

There are no female Marines. What is so hard about that to grasp?

You're wrong.

I've run homebrew RPGs with female marines. I've seen them in 40K games, in Space Hulk games, and in Epic 40K games. I've even had a RPG with a female primarch. People have been making female marine armies back to Rogue Trader days. I've even got a magazine with a published scenario that has a female marine chapter in it.

There ARE female Space Marines, whether you want to stick your head in the sand try to protect your ego by pretending they don't exist or not.

Riiiiiiight.... and I suppose Orks have genitalia too?

Those examples are all player-made and would entirely **** up the game from a consistency standpoint.

For the record, you can do whatever you like in homebrewed games, because they're ******* HOMEBREWED, I am seriously mad that people are so mad over this **** thing.

YOU CAN HAVE THEM IF YOU WANT BUT THE WON'T BE IN THE ******* BOOK!

Dude chill out man. ITS JUST A GAME!

Let others do what they want in the realm of RPGs and homebrewed. But you sir seem to take things personally... LIke as if someone kicked your dog into a speeding semi-truck....on your birthday...

The reason I'm so pissed is that people try to push things on everybody else,

they should just do what they and their group think best, don't try to tell other people how to play.

The addition of a Female Space Marine into an established franchise would publicly

A. Probably cause GW to freak out and get Deathwatch off the market.

B. Promote Feminists.

C. Say that the history, all the books, the games, and the tabletop game mean jack ****.

So, in answer, no I don't think it should be in the book.

But if you want to play them, fine by me, just not in my group,

there's no rule that says you can't and there's no mechanic for gender, so GO CRAZY.